I missed it when looking at their stats. Updated.

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4th seed in the East would be 11th in the West

I don’t know what it is currently, but west vs east was something like 26-6 to start the season, so the East as a conference will be 20 games or so below .500, plus having two 10 win teams will make it very lopsided

edit: its currently 28-10

Because it’s really, really early. Fifth seed in the West are the Timberwolves and they are 9-3. That might be a big difference in the NFL, but in the NBA a good week for the Heat and a bad one for the Wolves could see the Heat with a better record than them by the end of said week.

At this point in the season it’s mostly down to who has played the basement teams the most, and they haven’t traveled much, and the West’s is bigger/worser than the East’s.

That, and, the East has so many good-not-great teams - including far too many that are talented-but-what-the-fuck-are-you-doing teams - they all beat each other around and it doesn’t mean that much. West has a few of those teams but they get more free wins from the Jazz and Kings (and eg the Nuggets haven’t had that opportunity yet, so they look worse in comparison than they probably are).

Only playing each other

Funny how everyone was hyping up the East this year and how it’d be more competitive than the West just for it to be the same old shit conference we all know and love.

Standard of the East being kind of trash. Things. Been like this for the last 30 years

It has been this way 90% of the last 30 years.

Yeah this would be a lottery team in the West lol

What are we doing? Sucking like a vacuum cleaner. Any other Q’s?

hawks are mid, Heat are adjusting, knicks championship hangover, idk what the cavs are doing, raptors are hurt, magic are hurt, pacers are hurt, wizarsd trae young sucks

The West lost the finals in 5 games. The East is an overall more tough conference. All the teams in the top 6 play in the half court on offense and defense. I dont think you can say the same thing about top teams in the west. The Thunder were very lucky to go against an injured Halliburton. The west would have lost that series too.

East always is trash lol

The East is actually trash outside of Boston, Philly, Detroit, and eventually the Knicks. The Hawks deserve some respect too

unfortunately they dont get to keep playing the jazz kings and clippers in close succession

Not obvious to this sub apparently. I was confidently told Giannis made a huge mistake

‘22 celtics (finals run) started 10-10

Yeah the bucks squad isn’t amazing, but it doesn’t look like a 1-12 team. It’s not like you’ve had major injury issues either. He really was carrying hard lol

I’ve followed the team a little bc of Jaime and the Heat guys…seems like a handful of those losses were close and competitive. Hope they can start playing .500 ball and notching some W’s.

Unclear, Gary Harris can’t win with those cats.

Its 12 games.

Let the season play out a bit more before making these kinds of calls.

Make all the judgements you want, but wait for the 20 game mark, roughly.

I always understood bloodbath as very good parity in the sense that all teams would be really close to each other and even good teams would struggle to distance themselves from the pack, which is kind of happening in the east with all teams being really close with 6-6 being the 5th seed. A conference with a clear hierarchy with 1-4 teams running away, a middle of the pack fighting for play in or last playoff spots and just shit tanking teams inst exactly a bloodbath

Turns out changing the way the draft works to reduce tanking doesn’t actually change a roster for being total dogshit, it just makes the teams want to play their players instead of faking injuries

If it’s a blood bath then being .500 as a good team makes more sense, you’re not gonna win every game. If there is 8 teams that suck in a conference then beating them often and having a better record makes sense. If there is 10 plus good teams then it’s more likely a team on their best night is winning thus allowing games to be more competitive and the top 8-10 teams having a closer record then the skewed teams in the west.

The west is a literal blood bath, one lost can send you from maybe the third seed all the way out of play ins.. i maybe exaggerating but thats how i felt about the west this year

Those two statements don’t actually conflict

Minnesota would be 3rd in the east but are 5th with 9-3 as their record.

Cuz they won a chip. People know their potential and how deadly they are when locked in.

No Hali, no Barnes or Kawhi, Celtics on 5 b2b this month so sitting Tatum and PG, Knicks chip hangover, no Paolo no Suggs, Heat figuring things out. I’m sure I’m missing some but there is plenty of competition in the east when these teams get right.

Honestly, the East looks so bad that I think the Heat are still a real threat to win it.

I can absolutely see them causing an upset to one of the top teams, particularly my team unfortunately and annoyingly, BUT, winning three playoff series, with their roster as is? Nah, no chance.

Knicks locked in in the Playoffs looked unbeatable last year at times

nah trust bro the east is better trust

Celtics and pistons? Haha lol, lmao even. Cavs are better than both rn

Pelle has been a far better defender and shooter than Wiggins so ur concern should be with him

Unfortunately that’s a big ask for the majority on this sub

It’s really early in the season so Spo has been tinkering with the rotation. Conwell is playing a lot of minutes off the bench as a second round pick rookie.

Spo changed the offense, initially he tried to run space and drive offense with no pick n roll but that didn’t work because it had Bam outside shooting 3s.

He has slowly put back pick and rolls in the offense which helped the offense but the defense was still having issues.

He then move Larson to starting line up because Wiggins Defense has fallen off. Moving Wiggins in the 2nd unit also help his offense a little as well.

With both Larson and Klay out last night and limited the night before Spo also played Gardner who is defensive ball of energy which has helped their defense in both these Games.

Last night the pick n roll with either Bam and Mitchell or Giannis and Mitchell with the one not in the pick sitting in the dunker spot killed the Cavs.

None of the Cavs guards can stay in front of Mitchell, then when they ran the high post pick with him and Bam, the Cavs had to send help and Giannis was getting dunks from the Mitchell lobs. Even when Bam or Giannis missed the other was getting rebound.

Playing guys who suck less (Wiggins / hardaway / jovic). Maximizing lineups, getting better on defense and getting better at playing the big guys together on offense

Going 6-2 is a wild turnaround?

Their 6 wins came against teams with a 23-50 record. Only one of them has a winning record and that’s the 7-6 Hawks. 2 of those teams have one win each and they played none of those games when their opponents had a winning record.