Alperen Sengun in the win against the Utah Jazz: 43 points 12 rebounds 5 assists 1 steal 1 block on 17⁄24 shooting.
Big game from Sengun to will the Rockets against the Jazz for the Cup win. His second career 40 point game.
Jaxson Hayes was BBQ chicken
*Every Jazz center
how tf yall have so many of those
Fr can a brother have on of them centers cause I love Tshiebwe but that brother does not cut it
Tshiebwe might as well be prime Shaq compared to our current center room, you do NOT want any of these bums š
We have Adams and Capela were good just be patient
they thought that was better than paying kessler 10m more
danny ainge moment
I think Kessler is great, no doubt, but he is benefitting from the Luka effect.
Kessler was going to leave either way. He was only going to sign the qualifying offer and leave the following season. Didn’t want to be in utah
And none of them are good
I feel like Hayes actually played him the best (low bar). Tony Bradley looked like he was trying to help Alpe score.
Free eats
I feel like if you are a big playing Utah, you gotta be upset if you are not getting 30
Sengun at this point is probably the most clowned on player here relative to his actual production
I get that some people don’t like how his game looks but he’s been playing like a top 10 player all season and if you just read threads from this sub you’d think he’s terrible
if you listen to this sub, they say Mobley is better. smh
And Chet
there’s at least some kind of case to be made for chet if you’re using an ‘assuming healthy’ caveat, but mobley………… my god
It’s from the value people put on centers. Unless you’re Jokic, they don’t want their center to be the hub of the offense and would rather the center did all the role player stuff. Like they’d twist themselves into a knot and try to argue prime Jarrett Allen is better than Sengun lol
At a time maybe 2 years ago, he was, but Mobley hasnāt improved his game at all
Mobley never been better than Sengun a day in his career.
Heās been so good this year but people hate him.
Heās a really, really tough watch.
Idk, I quite enjoyed watching him put guys in the spin cycle all night.
they don’t give out wins for aesthetics or kyrie would be the GOAT
I don’t even understand the he’s tough to watch thing quite frankly. He’s a smooth operating post up demon with great passing and can drive to the rim off the bounce lol
I totally feel you. Itās less so the flopping or kinda being bitchy for me and more so the manner in which he carries himself if heās feeling disenchanted with the game. If heās having a bad game, you can fuckin tell.
In what way? I actually like watching him play. Super high IQ, great vision, his shot is coming along. Not the fastest pace when he’s running the offense but he makes a lot of great plays.
He is one of the flashiest passers in the league
You dont know basketball
I swear half of it is just how he looks playing on the court, total goof. He’s damn good tho
They said he runs like he got titties š
Its literally because he looks clumsy. Probably complains to much to refs. But he’s been doing thst less this year. But yeah. He isnt graceful. But dude can ball. My favorite player to watch.
Which is funny cause he has probably top 3 handles for a center and like top 3 post moves for a center. To me (Biased of course) he’s fun to watch
Oh he has the best handle and post moves of everyone I think.
I think its probably unrealistic he’s the #1 center as long as wemby Exists. But Jokic and KAT are ticking the years, and I think he and Wemby will be #1 and 2 center battles for some years. Our guy aint 7’6”, but he got the skills. Love having him.
He isnāt graceful but he also is. His footwork and spin moves are beautiful
Agreed!
People are just stuck to last year’s sengun. He was very much liked and considered to be one of the best young guys in the league 2 years ago.
This. Two seasons ago he was a young, fringe all-star level player full of promise. Last season he was a year older and his development appeared stalled so it was disappointing and many fans gave up on him. This season he looks to have taken a big step forward and is playing at an all NBA level. It’s only been 11 games so maybe he’s on a bit of a hot streak, but I think a lot of the improvement is real.
I think it has a lot do with the general team’s success. Last year’s rocket was a mess and I believe it was affecting sending the most. It seems they’ve found how to make it work this season.
on this sub, he’s probably one of the most underrated players
I seriously think the Sengun hate has some racial & religion bias behind.
White people don’t like him because he is muslim.
Black people don’t like him because he got that privileged white boy broccoli haircut.
Jewish people don’t like him because he has spoken against the genocide in Palestine.
Not saying these are the only reasons why people hate him, but it’s really easy to find a reason to hate somebody when you are already looking for an excuse to hate them.
If asking for calls from the refs was the real reason for the hate he gets, then Luka would be the most hated player in the league.
I had no idea this guy was Muslim and I do not like his whiny ass
You probably hate him because he beats your team a lot. He didn’t play in the one win you guys have against Houston this year. Sengun is a really nice guy; I will never get the hate.
Are you Alperen Sengun
Most people in Turkey are Muslims; are you completely unaware of that?
You expect everyone to even know that this dude is Turkish to begin with?
no, we are not idiot. half of the population doesn’t believe in religion or god, wtf are you talking about? it is not f*cking 60s anymore.
Yes, conquered, killed, taxed, Anatolia was Islamified.
Muslim hate on Reddit is a real thing. It’s still an American website and because of their education even the average friendly democrat American tend to still be a bit islamophobic (at least that’s my observation as muslim & daily user of the app known as Reddit)
Least chronically online r/nba user
Partly true, but that doesn’t explain everything. Alperen is definitely Muslim. From what I can see, he represents a young, progressive and culturally confident new generation of Turks. He wasn’t raised as a Muslim minority in a Christian-majority country. He comes from an independent country with a strong sense of its own history, where Islam is a major part of social and cultural life. This makes a difference in how he relates to his identity. He doesn’t seem to feel the need to constantly explain himself or seek other people’s approval.
For example, you can see him drinking rakı in his video promoting Turkey. Rakı is a traditional Turkish anise drink. A large number of young Turks don’t pray five times a day. But they might fast for a few days during Ramadan or go to Eid prayers once or twice a year. In Turkey, Islam is a natural part of social identity. It’s not some artificial identity added later.
As far as I can see, liberals and Democrats actually hate him for this. Alperen doesn’t fit the kind of person they are used to or the kind of person they approve of. He’s not insecure, he doesn’t need their approval to be accepted, and he doesn’t have to keep appearing in their campaigns to gain legitimacy. He has millions of supporters in his own country and is genuinely loved by a large number of people. On top of that, he’s someone from the East who doesn’t present himself as someone in need of protection, support or visibility from Western liberals. I think this is a big part of the problem. Liberals and Democrats like weak people who depend on their protection. If Alperen were that kind of person, you’d probably see them writing endless praise about him.
As far as I can see, liberals and Democrats actually hate him for this
And this is based on what, exactly? What a completely insane comment lmao
I donāt think anyone in politics has ever mentioned or thought of Sengun
Your brain is rotted from politics Jesus
log off man
Does it have to be a racial angle? Dude elbows people on every post up and the way he plays looks kinda goofy.
This is such a weird take dawg. Just for one, why are we immediately tying all Jews to the actions taken by the State of Israel (and assuming that Jews support those actions)?
Top 1% commenter type shit šÆ
number 1 reason is simply that his game is an eyesore, dude plays the ugliest basketball for an all star.
Hmm great post moves, great handles especially for a big, great passer, good touch around the rim , sets good screen and rolls to the rim with them, hub of his offense, plays hard . Like honestly do the people that say this even watch the rockets
ugly basketball maybe for those that don’t really love basketball
they call him the wizard for a reason. blud is doing magic tricks all game
lol there is no wizardry to how Sengun plays. He imitates part of Hakeem’s game but without the grace and pizzazz of Hakeem, if you love basketball you’d feel like vomiting watching his cheap,trash imitation
Wrong
As a center he can handle the ball, can cross people up, has great vision and passing ability, doesnt average double digit ft numbers unlike some other superstars, has good footwork, has a soft touch, can take midrange shots, is a good and willing screen setter and plays good defense.
What a fuckin eyesore dude.
Americans don’t like white foreigner basketball players.
meanwhile that is true, there are europeans that wouldnt agree that Turks are white
I personally dont care. Racists have been trying to justify racism with science very very hard and failed every time. The only logical conclusion is that color does not matter, we are all just little hairless monkeys on a rock in the middle of nowhere
Turk are considered Caucasian hence white.
Ita all arbitrary, Italians werent considered white in the US just 100 years ago
Africans are not Black. Turks are not white. The white-and-black racist stuff is all American.
not true at all lol. thereās these two fat white europeans named luka and jokic who ppl make endless excuses for when they lose and glaze the hell out of them
And there are endless amount of haters like yourself who go at those guys on social media every day and pretend as if those two guys are bad at basketball. To act as if those guys don’t get hate on social media and on Reddit is ridiculous, Luka doncic and Nikola jokic being two of the better players in the NBA make some people feel uncomfortable and insecure for some strange reason, and the reason is not basketball related.
This just isnāt true lol. If youāre trying to make it national, if anything itās other euros not liking him.
thatās a lie Jokic gets tons of love
I think it is just the way he jogs. Chest first with arched back.
I like the look of his game, personally. Feels very like a good 1980s big.
Crab Rangoon will never get my respect. Period.
He dominated one of the worst frontcourts (due to injury), and overall defenses in the league
22/9/8 vs the toughest schedule in the league. But ok bro.
The rockets haven’t beaten anyone aside from the celtics and spurs? Other teams are either beyond injured, or just not good.
And yet, somehow, despite the fact-ish-ness sound of your statement, before tonight, the Rockets are 8-2 vs teams above .500. Which i believe is the toughest schedule in the league.
Hmm 8-2 against teams .500 or better but theyāre playing teams that arenāt good ? Just stfu
“The whole league is injured therefore Houston’s wins are less worthy”
If thatās the case go look at the spurs winning streak and see whoāve they beaten ? Come on man with the goalpost moving
Come on man we canāt move the goalposts for certain people, Wemby or Luka put up insane numbers against them it would be celebrated
Itās not just about this game
Front court?
He’s been among the best 15⁄20 players these past two years, but besides his defense, his problem is his consistency. Not only does he shoot a ton even if he never hits one instead of driving, sometimes he screws a couple plays in a row for him/him being the main handler and then he gets in his head for the quarter or even the game. If he was consistent enough, I doubt he would be perceived as is
Not to swoop in and just defend my own guy but all that was on Udoka and the FO. They came out and said we were done with the season when FVV got injured preseason, so Sengun had to do all that bc there was no finishing and ball movement whatsoever (weād get KD three good looks a game because of Udoka ISO ball)
Sengun and KD would play PG by committee and heād have to post people up behind the 3. Most prison ball I had to endure from Udoka, and given who he is thatās pretty big
Oh yea, I know, that was painful to watch. But, in the same way, he developed faater
Heās clowned rightfully. He got punked by ayton of all people.
Not a soul on the rockets came to play but him
Iād spare Bogdanovic as well. He did a lot despite playing only 12 mins
True but had a couple idiotic fouls / turnovers
Tari and Bogi brought MUCH needed energy off the bench.
Reed was drafted to do one thing, and he can’t do that one thing
you gon copy paste this into every thread then?
And also created atleast 10 three point attempts for his teammates that got bricked.
Could’ve had a triple double if his teammates finished all those wide open threes he created for them
I think this what makes him a top player. Ok top of 43 points he facilitated the offense. He pretty much played PG last 6 minutes
Is there a big in the NBA with a better handle than him right now? Like you said he legit plays like a 6”11 point guard at times.
Only one TO as well despite being being the offensive hub
Dude is averaging 22 10 and 8 against probably the hardest schedule of any team in the league currently ābut he looks goofyā just stfu
Was expecting this from alpi last season after his performance from the fiba games last year. Hopefully he keeps this up!
I just got like 20 downvotes in a different thread saying i’d take him over Chet lol.
No team is even going .500 with Chet as their #1. I really dont understand how people compare the two.
Heās legit been better than Jokic this season
Baby Sengun
Chet is a better shot blocker than. Sengun is better at literally everything else except corner 3ās . Sengun is so far superior offensively it doesnāt matter is Chet is dpoy canidate
Seriously? I feel like Chet is the biggest liability on the thunder, sengun has won 50 games a few times as the #1. Heās definitely taken another step this year but like Chet is a 3rd option at best if he had to be the guy on a team they are stacking lottery balls
I saw a thread where all the top comments were saying Chet is easily the second best young center in the league behind Wemby. I felt like I was going crazy.
Yeah I mean can you imagine Chet as the guy on a team? No chance he wins 30 games as the best player on a team
No way as the first scoring option but I think he’d do fine as the best player on a really good team. I mean replace Shai and JDub with a decent guard and a wing, but not as good as Chet, rest of the team healthy, they’d win 50 games for sure.
Itās funny because the fans from the other 29 teams would gladly have him if presented the opportunity. Itās hating for no reason that doesnāt make sense to me
Celtics tried to get him the past offseason,
I disagree but it really isnāt as cut and dry as the people downvoting you fr
Chet is an amazing defender, but he isn’t going to lead an offense.
Just two very different players.
Chet is a glorified role player.
Top 5 big
Top 3 tbh, Its Wemby then Jokic then him.
Edit: Forgot about KAT.
All time *
Holy aura
He is 20 times better than Kat
Kat won a chip, and is the best stretch big ever
Goldfish memory
finally people arrive where i’ve stood
he is lisan al gaib
I wouldn’t say KAT is better in a vacuum but if you want a 2nd option to space the floor and add some size he is better. But as a first option, Sengun is definitely better
Kat might be a better 2nd option than Sengun is a 1st option. But heās still a 1st option.
First alpy was just straight abusing their centers . Second how tf do they have so many centers?
One man team tonight
Big Dog
There were a few enjoyable āwow this would be really embarrassing for themā minutes in there but alas
please ask keyonte george why he hates me and wants me to suffer
i swear to god every time we play he sinks some of the most bullshit shots you’ve ever seen
Senseabaugh to. That guy has some secret inner hatred for the rockets.
sensabaugh was actually quiet tonight, if he played like he played against us last season we would have been fucking destroyed
MY FANTASY DEMON. W 2nd round pick.
People were talking smack about him after last year, but Sengun is a beast and deserves respect.
the turkish demon isoing in crunch time was tough
Absolutely carried us
MVP MVP MVP
criminal fucking game from sengun last night
u/yuckmouthteethTHE FRED VANVLEET OFFENSE THOOOOO
anyone who watched a rockets game his rookie season (when he came off the bench) knew that he had offensive talent few players in the league do. For whatever reason, the beautiful touch around the rim he had faded in the next 2 seasons, but once that comes back and gets better, he is one of the best offensive players near the rim.
he put considerable amount of muscle since then, losing touch can happen in these cases. hopefully he gains it back
I hate his playstyle but dude is good this year
If this year means since 2024 season then yes
yeah sometimes he is trying to do the extra fancy thing and looks goofy but guy has talent for sure
“The guy has talent for sure” seems a bit patronizing lol. He’s a two time all star and the best player on a really good team. The talent has been established, he’s one of the stars in this league now.
Doesnt have a left hand
absolutely embarrassing win for the rockets. needing a performance like this from sengun to beat the jazzās g-league roster is horrendous
The G league roster hit some shots unlike y’all supreme roster that’s 1-12
Yaāll were genuinely hitting bullshit good game but yaāll still lost