[Lowlight] Mo Wagner begs his coaches to challenge a foul call… After review, the refs upgrade it to a flagrant.
Looking at the comments, it needs to be said, that the coaches did not in fact challenge the call. The review was triggered by the refs, because of a potential hostile act. OP didn’t watch the game.
Title is accurate. I didn’t say coaches challeneged it. I said Mo begged his coaches,,,, He did. I said refs reviewed and upgraded it… They did.
English is not my first language so apologies if my wording upset you.
Even though you’re correct about your title being factual, the way it’s structured creates an inference.
It’s also not the end of the world. Reddit is so polarizing and turns everything into such a big problem.
creates an inference
Implication.
Don’t both work?
Edit : Maybe since I used create implication works better.
So they are in danger?
I mean, the coaches would never say no to challenging the call…
Are you going to hurt these refs?
The sentence structure of the title suggests that the coaches actually did challenge it, when that was not the case. Totally understandable if English isn’t your first language, but without that context, it could seem like there was intent to mislead the reader about what actually happened.
Baketbol
private reddit profile with more karma than 100 normal accounts combined
this guy is probs full of shit with the english second language claiming to not know what he was insinuating here
this post would not get nearly as much traction without this very clear misleading statement, and this guy is without a doubt someone who sits there thinking about how to farm reddit karma on a daily basis
Whoa, you may have a point. I don’t like to assume about anyone. But that is a lot of karma.
or they post hole
The dude is definitely bullshitting. I saw the same type of title across twitter, insta, facebook. It’s just funnier to people when the misleading implication is there. OP is playing dumb on purpose
I think the inference and a little misleading is what makes it an even bigger post ya know
Yea
It absolutely does. It doesn’t explicitly say it but it’s implied. In fact, if I hadn’t seen this in the comments, I would have assumed it was a coach’s challenge.
“I ran a marathon yesterday. Today my legs are burning.”
Oh, so the marathon made your legs hurt?
“No, what are talking about? Those are two completely independent statements. Why would you assume such a thing?”
The post reasonably leads to a certain inference. If OP wishes to communicate clearly, they should not omit key information like this.
English is also not my first language, but how you worded it is not a language issue. In any language when you say someone asks someone else to do something… and then in the very next sentence you say “once that happened” i.e. “after review” (in this case), you are implying that the second thing happened BECAUSE of the first thing.
I know this is the case in every language I’ve ever known/studied/learned – for perspective: 3 african/semitic languages, 4 european language (2 germanic, 2 romatic), 1 polynesian, 1 east asian.
I obviously don’t know most (or even close to a lot) of languages (relative to how many there actually are), but I personally doubt this is a language issue. Because what you did isn’t that it’s a “lie” it’s that its misleading. And misleading in a way, that is not depended on the exact wording of the sentences, but the fact that you seem to connect two different ideas by intentionally putting them together – implying they are related.
OP’s account has an absolutely absurd amount of karma.
I don’t want to accuse them of anything, but this is the sort of clickbait that gets karma. If they had worded it in a more precise way, it probably wouldn’t have gotten as much attention.
Maybe it was not deliberate, but they must be making enormous numbers of posts. At the very least, they should probably slow down and get the wording right before making so many posts on Reddit.
I said refs reviewed and upgraded it
That’s not what you said though. You said
Mo Wagner begs his coaches to challenge a foul call… After review, the refs upgrade it to a flagrant.
That doesn’t imply the refs triggered the review, because the reader hasn’t read anything about the refs’ involvement until after you’ve said there was a review. In addition, where you’ve positioned the clause about he refs, and how you transitioned to it, does imply that the refs did the upgrade in response to the review, which paired with your first clause does imply that the review was not triggered by the refs, but rather a challenge.
This is not to argue with you. This is to help point to English sentence structure that is translating what you mean into what they understood differently, to explain why the original comment was made and upvoted so much.
Edit: This isn’t a case of “accuracy” but “clarity”. Clearer wording would have been something like “Mo Wagner begs his coaches to challenge a foul call… However/Instead, the refs review it and upgrade it to a flagrant.” This transition clearly communicates a difference in how they arrived at the outcome, where yours implies that the first part results in the second.
Yeah can’t blame OP because learning a 2nd language is hard enough and in 2nd languages its taught to be as literal as possible.
But the ellipsis leading straight into the After review does heavy lifting on the implication
Right, it’s an ESL person utilizing styling that they’ve seen and know are normal/familiar to people, in a way they think is communicating what they mean, but isn’t.
In a similar way, what is probably causing OP to interpret the original comment as a critical question of accuracy, is the standard “OP didn’t watch the game” putdown lol, which in fairness, was not necessary.
I agree and also think it’s insane how much energy people have put into this argument. But Reddit is here for a reason and it doesn’t have to make sense 🤷
as an english as a third language speaker, i actually appreciate this, the sentence structure seemed perfectly normal to me but i see how it can be interpreted either way.
Dude it is not such a big deal you have to dissect it like this. How important is being correct and correcting someone Jesus Christ.
You didn’t even read the comment, because I clearly stated I was attempting to help explain to the person who openly stated they’re learning English why they were misunderstood.
Dissecting language is how you help people understand it.
Smh
I think they were trying to help them learn how they could have communicated this more clearly.
There’s the logical implication that the coaches did challenge the call after you mentioned that Mo begged them. I know it wasn’t your intention, but the title could have been worded a little better to not get people to assume things.
Lmao exactly, like they didn’t know what they were doing. Let’s just all pretend like we don’t know lol
Especially the end with the “sorry your feelings got hurt”.
Is your first language Clickbait?
i think you knew what you were doing. You said challenge, then after review. This is not an english thing, it was intentional
I love that you can be a sassy bitch but get away with it by saying “Apologies, English is not my first language.”
Your wording was on point.
The wording is ok but certainly ambiguous. I would say on point would be removing all ambiguity.
Their wording was ambiguous and technically correct, which is perfect for Reddit engagement.
It wasn’t on point. It was on a foul.
Yes but at some point we have to acknowledge that an ambiguity free title takes too many words and also who really cares about said ambiguity in this case.
No it wasn’t.
Their wording was ambiguous. Clearly many people struggled to understand it because they omitted key information.
Also, OP’s account has an absolutely enormous amount of karma. So they may be a clickbait artist, and/or they are churning out absolutely enormous numbers of posts. In which case, at the very least, they should slow down and make their posts clearer. Quality over quantity.
Got to say, he begged coaches to challenges, refs review it anyway or say refs review it regardless
Your username is hilarious
I have to side with OP. His title was not inaccurate.
Fyi, in English “I apologize if the thing I did upset you” is an insult not an apology.
Definitely misleading
It’ll be a cold day in hell when I sit down to watch a Hornets Nets game in 2026.
You missed some highlight real plays from the big three of Mikel Brown Jr, Danny Wolf, and Nolan Traore, sorry for your loss.
How the hell you expect us to get you to watch even a clip. Actual basketball?
I’ll still watch the Nets to see MPJ ball. Hornets though… idk
It was one of the better games last night
Let me guess: You are from Germany?
The post doesn’t say they challenged it. It just describes what we see in the video. He begged his coaches for a challenge, which is relevant because he didn’t think he even fouled, but after a review (not a challenge) it was upgraded to flagrant.
It was never implied there was a challenge, but I can see how you could infer that.
Hot damn, you don’t see people who know the proper usage of imply and infer very often.
Implied, Lisa? Or implode?
It’s close, but not quite.
If one could reasonably infer a fact, the fact was implied.
By definition, infer and imply are connected. So while the previous poster is using the words in the right places in the grammar of the sentence, they don’t quite use them fully correctly.
Not really, people make false inferences all the time. “Why do you hate waffles” is classic reddit shit that happens constantly. I guess it depends on how you define “reasonably”.
Okay creed
I think about that scene every time I use imply/infer lol
Sad if true
Except the challenge was implied from the title. If it wasn’t you wouldn’t have needed to add the (not a challenge) or remove the ellipses before it to get your point across.
That’s not what imply means. One can incorrectly infer things that are not implied.
If you don’t think that
begs his coaches to challenge a foul call… After review […]
implies that the coaches challenged a call you’re either illiterate or arguing in bad faith.
That is the obvious and correct way to interpret that sentence.
Fair, if we want to be grammatically correct it should say - Except the title implies a challenge. Which it does.
It’s technically correct, but by omitting key details, the post created confusion.
The title of the post doesn’t. OP’s and other people’s comments do, though. Hence the beginning of my reply (“Looking at the comments…”). So, maybe instead of lecturing me, at least try and understand what I wrote.
You said “OP didn’t watch the game” implying that they wrote an incorrect title. Based on OP’s comments I saw, they were aware that no challenge was called. So I really don’t know what you’re talking about.
That’s because you’re late to the conversation. OP commented that “Charlotte won the challenge” to one of the replies. They have now deleted the comment, since people started replying that there was no challenge on the play.
Ok but that other scenario is a lot funnier so I’ll pretend that that’s what happened.
I mean the title isn’t technically wrong. Just misleading
It’s not even misleading. It’s just easy to misinterpret given the context. It describes exactly what happened.
Nah it’s missing the detail that they didn’t challenge. It describes some of what happens and the gap it leaves out is misleading (I don’t think it was malicious or anything by OP)
So they still described what happened
If they also included everything that didn’t happen then the title would probably pass Reddit’s allowed title length
That would be a really long convoluted title… just watch the video.
It’s just easy to misinterpret
It describes exactly
If it’s easy to misinterpret, it does not describe exactly, which is the point.
That’s not how anything works. Something can be 100% correct and describe something accurately, and still be misunderstood due to various reasons.
It absolutely is misleading. It’s possible to state only complete truths and be misleading.
It’s not misleading at all
That ellipsis is doing some heavy lifting.
It is misleading because it implies his coaches challenged it
No, it didn’t imply that. It’s easy to mistakenly infer though.
My brother what do you think “misleading” means
The reason is easy to misinterpret has less to do with the chosen title, and more to do with the nuanced situation in the video. I don’t think it was misleading.
When something is likely to be read as meaning something other than what it says, that is pretty much the definition of misleading.
I didn’t think it was descriptive enough to fully understand, so I watched the video. I don’t think that’s misleading.
this is just for karma farming, most people dont watch it and just post highlights
OP doing what Adam Silver wants
OP fucked up the title.
He never said the coaches challenged it. u/omniszron didn’t read the post.
It just heavily insinuates it
He never said it was triggered by that. He said Wagner begged for a review. Which he did
Mo got baited HARD by Grayson lol.
I’m sorry but what an idiot lol
Dude even looked back at the coaches after review and said “you see! I told you no foul”
They will never listen to him again lol
They didn’t listen to him this time. The review was triggered by the refs, not the coaches.
Point still stands. He wanted the review even if their coach didn’t trigger it.
It’s like if your buddy said “the democrats are going to sweep the elections if I go vote for them after work.” The next day you see your buddy and ask him if he voted. He says no but the dems still swept. Meanwhile your buddy was an idiot the whole time acting as if he could affect the outcome of 100+ different elections that he couldn’t even vote in.
Omg bro I was also totally thinking it was exactly like this
Why is every comment here so extreme? Mo was wrong, therefore he can never be trusted lmao. Chill fellas
This isn’t the first time with this guy
Maybe the first play I’ve ever seen where the instigator and retaliator are the same person.
That’s Grayson Allen, you know he was instigating before this clip lol
probably, he was exceptionally well behaved during this encounter so likely his ground work was already done earlier.
Grayson Allen’s first flagrant was for tripping the obstetrician with his umbilical cord.
Doctor swats newborn Grayson on the bum, he doesn’t cry
Doctor swats harder, no response
Doctor pinches Greyson’s arm just as Bill Kennedy walks up, Greyson starts wailing
The blank look on all of the coaches’ faces is killing me
Juwan Howard looks like Dr. Manhattan. “The chewing gum is in my mouth. It is 2026. I am at a Nets regular season game. A German boy shouts a lie at me. The gum is losing its flavor as my taste receptors become coated by sweetened saliva. It is 2012. I am in Indiana. Dexter Pittman started this game over me. I know I am done. Jett must be sent to IMG Academy to prepare for that which comes next.”
Mo Wagner is one of those dudes who literally complains every time he gets a foul called on him. Every time. And he’s a foul machine!
So dumb
I think he just wanted everyone to see it in big screen and slow motion
I’m genuinely curious what his thought process was here. If there was any.
Refs triggered the review, not his coach, just watched the highlights, cuz I was curious if anything happend between them before this.
And lets be honest, thats a foul, but not a flagrant, Allen sells it very well.
They photoshopping the review. You can tell by the pixels.
I was at the game near courtside and this dude would never shut up. Seemed like everyone including his teammates was sick of him
He is from Berlin lmao
Lol
Lmao, even
Borderline Rofl
We should definitely bring back Rofl
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Roflcopter
Lowkey ROLF
I know you have to have an INSANE level of self confidence to play at this level, but the sheer amount of players who NEVER believe they’ve committed a foul is beyond crazy to me.
Like you can watch players look up at the Jumbotron showing a replay of them jabbing an elbow into someone’s neck and they’ll legit shrug their shoulders and go ‘what did I do?! challenge it!!’
Every defensive back in football never commits pass interference. It is a scientific fact.
This genuinely made me laugh out loud - cheers
If Tyrese Maxey ever gets a signature shoe the logo is just gonna be a silhouette of this pose: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/hand-gesture-concept-displeased-40s-man-356676353?dd_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
This happens a lot in sports like basketball and soccer. The legal ambiguity of contact creates a strange cognitive pattern in athletes where they are simultaneously playing against the other team and the determination of the refs. This dichotomy breaks athletes brains all the time. Pair that with the gamesmanship nba refs and players have and you have a recipe for abnormal behavior.
Shame is the only deterrent and people be shameless
It’s pretty common in any competition. If you play any moba, you’ll have someone claiming that everyone else is “always” mispositioned and they were where they needed to be. I’ve been guilty of doing it.
Shame doesn’t get you to the league unfortunately
I guess because I was/ am an athlete myself, I try to imagine what it would be like.
I was higher level in baseball, which is different of course, but also played basketball and football and was ‘good’. In basketball particularly I was never a great shot, so I focused more on physicality (along with my other attributes) and defense - and I fouled dudes ALL the time.
But very rarely did I say ‘no way was that a foul!’ because I possessed enough self awareness to recognize what I was doing. And even if I thought it wasn’t a foul, I knew yelling at the refs wasn’t going to get me anywhere, and MOST of the time I was able to hold back (I did lose it on occasion of course lol)
Anyway. As I played a bit of D1 baseball and knew dudes who went pro, I can only assume the jump from hs basketball to the pros is just as absurdly ridiculous. So yeah while I don’t understand what these guys are going through first hand, I think I can conceptualize it, and it to me it really just comes off as more self centered and just a bratty ‘everyone has told me I’m perfect my whole life’ thing than a simple misunderstanding or something
*edit: really? Downvotes on this comment? Lol I swear so many people here are fucking dumb as rocks. It’s really getting bad anymore. The school system is failing you!
Yeah. I foul. A lot. Got away with a lot too. But if I definitely foul someone, I’m not going to pretend I didn’t.
Exactly!
Your rage at the downvotes is unnecessary.
You wrote a crazy long response about how you are morally better than someone else.
Of course your end point that this is self centered/bratty behavior is accurate, but you take a long unflattering path to get there.
Lower the rage and enjoy your day
‘Rage’? Lol Christ what a goofy thing to say.
Thank you for proving my point here though regarding people not being able to think past surface level thoughts.
Also your initial comment regarding ‘shame’ is incredibly off base. It sounds like something someone who never played a single competitive sport in their lives would say - which just about captures the other major demographic here.
So cheers to this now being such a cliche Reddit interaction lol I love it
yea he just saw it, idk if he thought that it maybe slipped cause Allen dipped but hes seen it on the big screen so its obv a foul at the very least
I just meant this is a somewhat common response - not just Mo Wagner who does this, for SURE.
Ya but the guy flopped who got hit also. He acts like he got electrocuted.
I’m not just talking about this play!
In Mo’s defense it is Grayson Allen
it was? oh thats understandable then
He just wanted to watch himself hurt Grayson Allen again
I allow it
Grayson Allen’s a gamer and a winner. We sure as shit could still use that guy, the trade that sent him to Charlotte appears to have tanked the Suns.
I’ll continue to root for Grayson in Charlotte - he’s matured into a strong and valuable player.
eh still a douchebag
Allen also flopped into selling it as a flagrant. It’s definitely a foul but we can actually see the exact same contact a few seconds before that confirms Allen exaggerated it.
When Allen first goes into the lane he gets the elbow to the chest and his head goes forward. Idk if this was a foul or a good box out but Allen absorbed the contact.
Knowing he’s going to get hit in the chest again, the second time his head goes backwards before his chest does. It’s clearly a foul but Wagner didn’t push his elbow “through” Allen, he thought he established position and tried to hold his elbow at a fixed point.
Weird. The 1st shove had nowhere near the same force as the 2nd.
It’s just a spurs fan letting their bias make them say ridiculous things lol
Classical bias spurs fan. The first push was absolutely NOTHING close to the second hit. Acting like they were both just soft pushes and that Allen “flopped” the second time is a joke, and is just showing your insane bias.
Wagner straight up nailed him with that second hit. There was no flopping needed.
As a spurs fan I’m biased towards Wagner? Towards elbows??
Anyway, I probably explained the comparison poorly. Think of a car accident, if you rear end someone at a low speed your head goes forward, but if you crash into a brick wall at a highway speeds then your head goes forward a LOT more.
Allen’s head went backwards as soon as contact was made to his chest, that means he did it himself. It’s definitely a foul but in my opinion even saying Allen “sold it” is grossly understating it.
I mean elbow to the chest meets the definition of flagrant 1 even without the flopping.
Also looks like Allen sort of pulls Wagner’s arm as he flails back so exagerate the arm extension even more. Top tier baiting by Allen
Allen hasn’t been dirty in years, at some point y’all need to accept that sometimes people succeed at changing for the better
People can change. I used to be a piece a shit - slicked back hair, sloppy steaks with the boys - you woulda HATED me
You sound like someone that carries dice around.
Oh yeah… that’d slick back REAL nice
Ehhhhhhhhh. We get coached into hiding things better and being less overt. He’s the same dude though.
Allen being dirty at Duke does a lot of heavy lifting.
He didn’t stop being an asshole he just started playing against meaner dudes
Allen hasn’t been dirty in years
People absolutely change for the better but this is fucking hogwash lol.
He’s not like his Dirty Duke days but saying he hasn’t been dirty in years just tells me you don’t watch much outside the Celtics.
What the hell are you talking about? Grayson allen elbowed chet holmgren in the neck less than a year ago, and has had 2-3 other dirty plays in the last 2 seasons. Maybe it’s become less frequent at best, but he is still a dirty player.
Grayson allen elbowed chet holmgren
Man, I didn’t remember this so checked….he didn’t “elbow him in the neck”. He shoved him in the chest. Damn people are so dramatic. Unless there was another ejection on Chet in the same year?
Yeah I’m sure they ejected him for shoving him in the chest lmao
Wtf are you talking about? Genuinely. Why are you talking about something you clearly don’t know about which is very clear to anyone who see this guy plays a lot.
do we? i mean he just got more successful at injuring people as he went pro. even if the caruso one was his final dirty play, his streak of being dirty is still much longer than his clean streak
remember when Wilbon called him a thug after the Caruso play
At any given time I never have any idea who is on the nets
I feel obligated to point out that Mo Wagner was on the “Who He Play For?” roster.
That’s as clear cut as you can get. Are there no coaches reviewing this before challenging for the Nets.
It was an officials review to determine whether the foul should be upgraded. It wasn’t a challenge.
Plot twist, coaches are playing 4D chess and decided to challenge knowing it would be upgraded so they can deny him the next time he complains and begs for a challenge they can be like, “Well, remember the last time you said we should challenge? Yeah, no we’re not going to…”
Gotta teach these lessons early in the season.
I feel like that has to be what this is, or the coach thought the player needed this challenge to feel like the coaches had his back and trusted him even though they really don’t haha
Honestly great way to handle a player like Mo who is constantly complaining about everything
This is the answer. One of the assistants was on the bench shaking his head no when Mo wanted to challenge.
This is the answer.
No. The answer is that it wasn’t a coach challenge.
Yeah this feels like a ‘Let’s just do it so he shuts up’ thing. Now they have an excuse the rest of the season.
This is on the same level of when parents would let kids play with the cigarette lighter in the car… when cars still had those. Some lessons are scarred into people.
Coaches didn’t challenge
The Nets didnt challenge it, the refs reviewed for a hostile act.
It was just funny to point out Mo even asked for a review.
It wasn’t a coach’s challenge, OP is a bot
To be fair, OP didn’t mention the coaches actually challenging the play lol
True. Over half the responses read it as a coach’s challenge because of a misleading title though lol
It’s not misleading because it’s what happened.
Are we sure the Nets have staff
Piss-poor anti-Nets material, even by r/nba standards
I thought it was still legal to elbow Grayson Allen.
(Basketball fan who hasn’t followed very deep for a few years. Are Grayson Allen jokes still good form?)
Grayson Allen jokes are still good in my book.
Yea, the context here is important. Wagner was taking a cheap shot at Grayson Allen and I have no doubt he deserved it. I’m a Hornets fan but I’m not naive about how Grayson Allen plays the game.
He’s currently the only consistently good Hornet and we’re all sad in Charlotte so maybe he can have a break for a couple months
There seems to be some stuff circulating recently and even in these comments on this post that Allen has turned over a new leaf and hasn’t played dirty in years. I’m not sure if he hired a PR team or something
It’s kinda true, he was dirty as hell at Duke and his first few years in the league (breaking Caruso’s wrist comes to mind), but I can’t think of a dirty play he’s been involved in for years now. He may have matured a bit.
Yeah he’s definitely cleaned up his act in recent years.
but I can’t think of a dirty play he’s been involved in for years now. He may have matured a bit.
Good news is you don’t have to think about it at all. You can just look it up and see that isn’t true. Improved yes, spotless record? not even close, my man.
Always
It is, in fact, always legal to elbow Grayson Allen. In this case the foul was for not elbowing hard enough.
As long as Ted Cruz is in office it’s okay to make Grayson Allen jokes.
Allen objectively hasn’t been a dirty player in years, though facts don’t need to be impediments to memes
People dislike him because he looks like Ted Cruz.
The zodiac killer?
They hate the zodiac killer because he loos like Allen. They hate Allen because he looks like Cruz. They hate Cruz because he’s Cruz
Allen objectively hasn’t been a dirty player in years
Second time I’ve seen you say this on this post. Are you doing guerilla Allen PR erasure?
Like is he better than he was? No doubt. But saying he hasn’t played dirty in years is incorrect.
He stopped doing that stuff when he was traded to the Suns.
Genuinely, are you just a Grayson stan trying to defend him and just arguing past me or are you illiterate? I’ve repeatedly stated yes he toned it down but to say he stopped doing it at all just shows you don’t fucking watch ball lol. He certianly has. Like documented ejections. Yes, again, not as frequently as before then but he most certainly has not stopped doing that stuff altogether and to say he has shows you an intentional will to ignore historical documentation showing that it’s not true.
Of course, I work hard for the money that Grayson Allen pays me. Or maybe I just think people’s performative dislike has gotten a little bit divorced from reality.
Calling it performative still operates off the assumption that your statement that he hasn’t played dirty in years is true - while it’s not.
I will concede that he has cleaned up his act especially in the last two seasons, but to say he hasn’t played dirty in years just shows a genuine lack of ball watching.
He went to duke and has an extremely punchable face. He didn’t need to be dirty to be hated, he chose that for the love of the game
Allen is still dirty. Just not nearly as bad as earlier in his career.
I mean he still hustles and does dirty shit, he’s just much better at hiding it as well as keeping his emotions in check
I checked. It’s been 4 years since he cheapshotted Caruso midair.
That injury probably lowered Caruso’s trade value. So in some fucked up way, I guess Thunder fans should thank Grayson?
Talk about ratting on yourself
So tired of players reacting with “what?!!” after a obvious, clear-cut foul. This one is just next level idiocy.
If a player turns their palms upward after any play, it should be an immediate ejection. So fucking sick of it.
This guy needs to relax.
Its only game. Why you heff to be mad
solar system is so humongous big
I liked ilya
“Melo, over a basketball game?”
Shits hilarious. What a dumb move.
lmao what a schadenfreude moment
What exactly was the premise of the challenge? Taking a 2-foot giant step towards someone and chucking them with a full-arm extension should be play on?
I can’t imagine what anyone involved was thinking.
It wasn’t even challenged
It was reviewed by the refs, not a challenge. Though Mo did want a challenge.
I think the premise was that it was Grayson Allen so it’s fine, which… isn’t the worst argument.
Ok he came into the league as a cunt but hes kind of meloed out maybe? I dont see his name pop up for stuff like this since early in his career.
No but you see once you’ve done bad stuff on the basketball court you’re dirty forever
I’m worried the baby thinks people can’t change
Not really. This sub loves DWade.
Is he no longer a pos?
He just suffers from Punchable Face Syndrome
*Give to the Nick Sirianni fund
I mean …. Yeah that make sense lol
That’s allowed in Germany
Sure, I sliced him open with a shiv and took a kidney to sell, but the ball was on the other side of the court so I don’t see how it affects the play at all. Weak call
I fucking hate Mo Wagner. He’s actually such a little bitch that does shit like this all goddamn game, but because he hustles, some people like him. Same shit that Patrick Beverly was on
He’s a basketball terrorist, and not in like a fun goofy way
He’s been a bitch for literal years. Michigan got clobbered by Nebraska his last year and he had a proper crashout including crying and punching a chair. Always been a tough watch
Legit was trying to hurt our player during a preseason game?? A fucking weirdo
We Stan killian Hayes for knocking him out
https://youtu.be/L2yvtoVz-og
Reminded me of this and looky there, the exact same bullshit move lol
Standard for players from UofM
Liar liar pants on fire