It’s too bad basketball does not yet have advanced analytics to help differentiate someone who is hot vs someone who is actually good — like exit velocity, BAPIP, route efficiency etc in baseball.

Half of the reason that he played so little last year is that he made them 10 points per 100 possessions better when he was on the court and he averaged 20 points in 22 minutes, and they were trying to lose. He was available to play from the start of February on

I think if you take his prior seasons into account, its reasonable to say that he was being underrated for legitimate reasons and is likely a top 100 player. I don’t think he’ll average 30 all year but I can see him avg 20-25 on good efficiency + 5-6apg over the season. That would easily make him a top 100 player, if not top 50.

I always get shocked how reactive this sub is to single game/ small game stretches. There’s so much variance that happens throughout the season.

And yet people here will post articles like this acting like it’s confirmed Jerome is a top 10 player after.. 4 games. Even the best players in the league will have multiple bad games throughout the season, and a bunch of “average” players will have amazing games.

I don’t mind acknowledging them but just not when it’s ignoring how much random variance happens game to game lol

I think people are also taking the two previous seasons into account when saying he’s very underrated

Yes, I defer to a comment I made some time ago because I don’t want to write it out again

The more popular impact metrics are meant to measure exactly how well a player is impacting his team in his current role, and fans seem to be taking them at face value like they are rankings. Derrick White is highly favored in advanced stats because he is a far more impactful tertiary ballhandler and third option than Jaylen Brown is as a high usage, primary ballhandler, that’s it. They do not have Derrick White over Shai, Luka, or even Cade for a reason

For a prime example, Mikal Bridges in his last season with Phoenix as a fourth option and primary POA defender, had a +10 NET ON rating (98th percentile!!), sunk to -3.2 NET as a first option in Brooklyn, and has risen back to +6.7 as a fourth option on the Knicks

People need to seriously stop pretending like there’s no reason why these stats aren’t high on Brown yet still portray his costar Jayson Tatum pretty favorably even immediately after a fucking achilles injury

My biggest issue with analytics in the NBA is that we don’t hear from the actual analytics teams. Instead we’re hearing from journalists, coaches, or front offices, which are usually second, or even third hand sources. There’s a serious issue of telephone going on here. I’m not sure if this is an intentional policy from teams, or if it just happens to be that way.

Speaking from personal experience, there’s this built in assumption that technical people magically cannot talk to humans, but the way analytics gets talked about right now treats it as witchcraft, because it’s usually coming from people who don’t fully understand how the data was generated. This in turn causes the fanbase to decry it as bullshit and make future discussions even harder.

What meaning can advanced stats have if you just pick and choose when to take them at face value and when not to. In that case it’s just a tool for confirmation bias

That and how will he handle full court press come playoffs? He didn’t do well against it with the Cavs.

I thought that average went down after his last game.

Its like when i filter fantasy player rankings by averages vs totals.

Top 10 by average, doesn’t make top 100 by totals

To start his career he spent time in the G League and had a lot of DNPs

He was also horrendous on offense in the playoffs

I think you hit the nail on the head. If he’s just leading the second unit for Cleveland, it’s fine defensively, but if you’re playing him in crunch time with Garland and/or Mitchell, someone is getting cooked. The lineup with all three especially. Here though, he’s surrounded by guys who can defend. But our realistic goals also aren’t a deep playoff run like those Cavs teams. A play-in appearance would be a successful, ahead of timeline season for us.

Offensively, he’s also getting the reins here as a 1A/1B with Cam, so it should be fun to watch as long as he stays healthy.

Not as long as Yang Hansen is in the league

Somehow he gets ROTY too

Played in more than 65 games once in his career lmao

Don’t forget ROTY

You severely underestimate the possibility of Ron Baker making his NBA return sweeping these awards along with ROY and COY.

He was pretty bad in our last game, really only has three good games so far

He had a good case for sixth man of the year two years ago and last year he had almost a point per minute when he did play (and the Grizzlies had to keep him out because they were 10 points per possession better offensively when he was on the court and they were trying to lose)

That feels pretty harsh to say a game where he shot 26.7% is closer to who he really is about a guy with a career average of 46.2%

Like he not a 30 PPG guy, but 25 on not awful splits doesn’t seem out of the realm for a dude with all that runway and green light.

Don’t people on here always say how a bunch of players could average 20 if they got the volume? Well he has the volume lol. And he’s actually proven to be a better than average scorer for years now.

RemindMe! Feb 1st 2027

I mean, I hope you’re wrong. One of the better, if not the best, storylines in the NBA right now. Would be fun to see them maintain the momentum into the postseason.

Get that bill Simmons terminology out of this sub.

It’s as if these people have never seen players be hot for a few games before. Just because it’s the start of the season doesn’t magically mean he’s first team all-NBA

You sound like Bill Simmons 😆

No, they’re not good

In 24-25 a lot of advanced stats had Ty basically as the single best difficult shot maker in the NBA.

OP disrespecting the MVP front runner is crazy

Yet…

But seriously, teams will start gameplanning for him and then we’ll see if he’s really this good or not.

Hey, don’t give the anti-analytics people so much grief. They said the Warriors would never be contenders and that Jokic wouldn’t be a star. Look how that turned out.

I’d bet every dollar I have that Jerome won’t be considered an elite player by the end of the season. A four game sample size means nothing.