I don’t mind if it’s the design of one of the dot types, but all dots are like this… which make all dots build the same way. I’d like all the dot types to scale from different vectors instead of all being differently colored bleed with slightly different gimmick.

Which is, YET AGAIN, another lesson they already learned in poe1 btw. Just under 10 years ago, they already worked out why this was a bad implementation:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1891944

There is so many things that for some reason they just did different in poe2 “just because” despite them having been changed for good reasons.

This. Right f*cking here. One hundred percent, sir.

How does PoE 1 do it? I haven’t played that a ton

For poison, Dot is scaled by separate magnitude thing, faster application rate, stacks and temp chains, it’s very similar to poe1 in feel. YMMV but it was pretty similar in poe2 for me, hit tickles, dot is the sole dps

Speaking only about poison here, maybe it’s worse for ignites since no stacking

They’ve said they’re reworking bleed

This is wrong? Spiral volley/poisonburst bow poison is fine? Enough to do base game and all pinnacles

I’m personally not a huge fan of infinite ramping poison, as it becomes a case where the best way to scale it is hitting fast and building the stacks, and then there’s no way to do “big poison” to synergize with poison spreading. I’d like to see 2 other avenues.

Keep the single stack with invested additional stack, and add a keystone that grants the infinite stacking, at the cost of damage

or

Rework poison into infinite ramping with low duration, and add a keystone that limits poison to 1 with a higher base duration and possibly gives poisons the ability to compound (otherwise give a massive damage multiplier to make “big poison” a viable way to play it).

I would however like to see a rework to Incision, because I think it’s a really bad mechanic right now, and it could easily be reworked into a “death by a thousand cuts” playstyle, where targets bleed out faster the more incision stacks they have. They could also give access to a “rip” mechanic that will consume all incisions and bleed for massive damage. Perhaps also a keystone or a unique that cauterizes the bleeds to make them lose fire resistance, so you can pair it with ignite.

I played poison pathfinder (no spears) every league and it is still very good … Atleast good enough for juiced GE’s to be very boring. But yeah if a streamer says its bad then it must be bad right? Sure it’s not comparable to meta gaming in terms of investment vs. what you get for your money but still - very enjoyable, fast clearing, good single target…

But yeah poison has its issues - probably it’s even too complex to be meta gaming worthy since you have to scale almost all the hit damage every other build does AND all the Ailment related stuff like Magnitude, Duration, Tickrate, Dotcap, while having the same amount of affix slots everyone else has. And the dotcap has configuration issues with low dmg poison utility stacks for armour break or something… You usually want that as a utility on gas arrow for example for maintaining your debuffs - but high dps poisons will overwrite low dps poisons so all your supports do not work anymore since no low dps poison stacks will stay long enough to do its thing.

Bring back infinite stacking poisons like in PoE.

No, it cannot and will not work like Poe1, and you will have to like it.

At least bleed will most likely get some love in 1.0 since Duelist has some bleed stuff

Yea, Tornado doesn’t suck up any further ground effects after the first, even if they’re stronger, so The Taming functionally turns off its ability to suck up ground effects by replacing them with a weak ‘default’ version.

I recently leveled a sorc with frostbite for the challenge. It was… solid but slow. Would not recommend. It also felt like permafrost bolts but way worse in every way.

I really don’t like spells in poe2. God they feel awful.

And that is irrelevant to the point. You are not using a DoT skill. You are using a skill that hits and applies a bleed.

A DoT skill would be something like Essence Drain where the DoT is inherent to the skill. Essence Drain have two lines that reads like this:

Deals (9.2—443.5) Chaos damage per second

Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to Debuff’s Damage over Time