They are reviewing the out at second base as Cooper Pratt’s foot may have come off the bag
My blood pressure is 630⁄322 is it normal
Drink a couple more beers to bring it down
Just remember to drink Wisconsibly
That’s awesome lol
A few more brats, too
Have some deep fried cheese curds while you’re at it for a solid base.
Please. This calls for a brandy old fashioned.
Just skip ahead to the bottle of Jäger
Gotta have bout two three beers, ya know?
Done
Fahrenheit or Celsius?
Silver lining of not making the World Series is getting to watch without the cardiac arrest
This is why I turned into an alcoholic in October ‘10, ‘12, and ‘14
It’s Milwaukee, what are they gonna do? Be more alcoholic?
Is that a challenge?
Accepted
🤣 this is A hell of a series even after game game 1. So good. My fingernails and liver say otherwise.
Beer Noises Intensify
Soak up the beer with a brat and curds then do it again.
Do you think Michael Jordan ever said, “yeah, I’m good, I don’t want to get better at basketball.” We should always try to improve, even if we’re miles ahead of the competition.
Oh I like this. That’s also why I turned into an alcoholic in ‘10, ‘11, ‘12, ‘13, ‘14, ‘15, ‘16, ‘17, ‘18, ‘19, ‘20, ‘21, ‘22, ‘23, ‘24, ‘25, and ‘26
I thought that was just living in Wisconsin.
By my math you were born in 2004
Cheers 🍻
As a Brewers fan, most of our 10, 12, and 14-year-olds are alcoholics.
Little League is different up north
Some teams went for ice cream after a game, we went to the tavern.
Dad let me drink Schlitz when I turned 8
Oh, 2014 must have been soooooo hard for you!
Signed,A totally not-bitter Nationals fan
Normal for world series.
From experience
Thanks for sharing. No experience
I’m still upset about last year
Cardiac Crew, 100% normal
Too many brats clogging arteries.
Welcome to your life for the next week or so!
it was pretty normal for me last year.
Yall will be fine. Got the momentum and the will to win
Based on flair prolly normal.
I hated this review; it looked like his cleat was still on the bag. The umpire was right there. This is going to be a great World Series.
Wait until the 18th inning….
That’s why I don’t watch the games. I don’t understand why people get that crazed over something you have absolutely no control over and receive no benefit from. It’s the perfect time to go grocery shopping around here or better yet, fishing. If they handed out dividend checks for every Brewer win, maybe then I would be a fan.
My blood pressure last night:
Was this a dota reference
This and the fair/foul challenge on the Bauers hit should be foreshadowing for the type of series this is gonna be: super incredibly hyper close.
Hope so. Was a good game from a nuertral fan perspective and the challenge actually added to the drama in a good way.
Please let this end up on r/agedlikefinewine not r/agedlikemilk
That umpire has eagle eyes to make that call in real time. Even super slow motion has me clenching.
After they came back from this review, was that smoke from the fireworks? Did they prematurely blow their load?
We did. And we did it again
Yeah they got to celebrate twice
Oh, THAT’S what that was. I thought a wicked fog had come in.
There was insane fog in Milwaukee today which is probably why the roof was closed.
It isn’t premature when you plan on busting twice.
Relatable
Oh yeah. Huge celebration before the challenge.
wildfire smoke from Minnesota
Fuck yeah they did. If the umps are gonna fuck the Brew Crew they’re gonna blow a load all over them and the Rays
Did they have enough fireworks to go again after?
They did when they were younger but not so much anymore.
Doesn’t matter, already blew a load
After a short refractory period yes
Feels like I’m taking crazy pills reading the discourse. There’s a good amount of space between the foot and bag once it’s in his glove. Glad it didn’t end up mattering because the controversy would’ve been unbearable.
As much as it was stressful as fuck, objectively I understand overturning it. You could see a sliver of daylight between foot and bag at the time of the catch.
Sure, it would have been accepted as out for most of baseball history. But that’s also true for the called balls that Contreras challenged and overturned.
It’s true for literally every call, no matter how egregious.
His foot was pretty clearly off the bag in a few angles. It was a good challenge and overturn imo. Mind you, I’m only this charitable because we won, thank fuck.
I would be far less charitable about the “check” swing if you had not secured it
That was a pretty bad missed call, in my opinion. I know check swings are always debatable, but man, that’s one that typically gets called.
It should totally have been called. It was so obvious. Especially as someone with no dog in the fight. (Go BrewJays!)
You ever see videos of old timey check swings?
https://youtube.com/shorts/AR0Oyn-Xht8?is=rDrpVXlCTkiI5_Lo
Yeah I mean there’s no “definition” of a checked swing vs strike but that was a swing by any common sense interpretation of the rule.
The checked swing was a horrible missed call…
Exactly, why should a double play be any different from than say a force out at home? Should they still call a guy out at home if he’s off the bag but “kinda close”?
Yes. Why? Rules. The ball was not in his glove while he was on the bag. The force out doesn’t matter here.
Player safety?
Played safety is why he actually has to touch the base. Once we decided that players aren’t allowed to actually try and break plays at 2nd and home up, the “in the area” rule became a huge advantage for the defense
The idea that you’re +88 and I’m at 0 is funny. But yeah; thems the rules. Sorry
I think a lot of us grew up with the neighborhood play so we’re used to deferring to the fielder.
The neighborhood play is still in effect all the time though. This is just another double play that no one thinks twice about usually.
I was gonna say, I thought they had made the rule official in order to protect the basemen after that one Chase Utley takeout slide but I suppose not
Fuck Chase Utley.
at first glance i thought he hit the bag and compression showed otherwise due to the motion of his leg, but now i realize there would be some recoil in the knee area if the spike did in fact hit. not a doctor but i just took a bad ankle sprain and spent the last 3 weeks studying ankle sprain clips lol
I agree when he catches it his foot is off, but from the low angle from first it looks like his cleat grazes the edge of the bag. It even looks like the bag pulls a little.
I think his front spike may have hit but I don’t think you can tell from the camera. Based on the camera he was off
But if there’s doubt about whether or not his cleat hit it, then the call on the field should stand.
I actually think they got it right, but it’s so close there on the drag.
I agree, the call on the field was an out, and to me you can’t say with 100% certainty that his clear didn’t graze/scrape the bag on the way off. I didn’t understand how that was conclusive. I swear I even saw a little dust kick up on that.
I hate the Brewers, I feel like that’s too close to overturn.
Which is why you go with the call on the field if there isn’t clear evidence. I think New York got it wrong by their definition. But they tend to go with emotion imo
I also thought his spike caught it! Not clear enough though
That’s what I think. I think there’s a good chance he was dragging a kleet across the bag. Movement in his shoe when it cleared the bag also suggest it. You can see dirt because you’re seeing around the kleets.
He almost grazed it after it came off too
That’s why I think it took a while. He definitely comes off, but he was really close to getting a tiny bit of cleat drag on the edge after he catches it.
I didn’t realize this woulda been controversial. That’s a stonewall safe.
Right like this was incredibly obvious
The NBA sub is all up in arms over the casual walking around with the ball. This woulda been a nightmare
Don’t compare this to that trash ass league
I didn’t need the replay as I thought he was off in real time but it was closer than I thought after seeing the replay.
I thought it came off but then maybe touched again while he was dragging it off
I feel the same way, I don’t care which team wins and it’s clear to me his foot wasn’t on the bag when the ball was in his glove.
People want instant replay then complain about the “purity” of the game when a call doesn’t go their way. There have been plenty of times watching a game where I think it’s a bad call then when shown in replay I can see I was wrong.
Also, people are complaining X or Y isn’t reviewable and this is reviewable are just old men yelling at clouds. Having everything be reviewable sounds good in theory but it could really slow down the game. MLB Has been focusing on speeding up the game in recent years so they’re not going to do something to slow it down.
100%, this is just insane to me. You can CLEARLY see space between his foot and the bag when the ball hits the back of the glove. Like what are we doing here? It’s so obvious
Flair aside, do you think Caminero offered? Whether he did or not, should he reviewable if they are splitting hairs.
Yes, he clearly offered. Bad call
Probably yeah but check swings and balks are the last “maybe he did, maybe he didn’t, but it’s whatever I say it is” things that umps have left
Whether a player swung (made an attempt at the ball) is an actual judgement call, so no matter how dogshit the base umpires are at their job it’s not a reviewable play. Keeping your foot on the bag until you catch the ball is an objective measurement, which is why it’s reviewable.
Objective measurement without proper equipment to prove whether foot was on the bag or not?
I would have liked to see it from the base umpires perspective but it looked like he probably went. It did a weird kinda upward movement though which is why I’m uncertain. But even though Im like 51⁄49 pulling for Rays at this point, it would have sucked had they pulled ahead after a questionable call like that
How can they review if he offered at the pitch, or however the rule is vaguely worded? They have to change the rule to something definitive first, then have a way to review it.
Ump looks at it again and makes judgement call.
Making call in real time vs. slow mo replay
Idk what other people are saying but for me the frustration was with the Caminero “check swing” happening and obviously not being reviewable/able to be overturned. The juxtaposition of that with the double play review happening afterwards highlights an arbitrary line drawn in the current baseball review framework.
Edit: I acknowledge they would also need to actually specifically define what the line between going around and a checked swing is, but I feel like that’s generally something that is already kind of agreed upon and I don’t think it’s crazy at all to say that this should have fallen into the “going around” bucket
Theres cleats on the bottom of the shoe though. I dont see this as clear evidence of a wrong call. I think the spikes might have been touching
Dude, fuck right the fuck off. He wasn’t on the bag. It wasn’t an out. End of story.
Yeah, he was safe according to the rules of baseball for 140 years.
Did the spike hit?
Edit: Huge controversy avoided.
Get the man some longer spikes, haha.
Baseball is won in the margins
Every sport is a game of inches really lol
Durant sends his regards.
Business idea: We tether Pratt to 2B with very very very long shoe strings.
KD vs the bucks
Should’ve been a size 14 shoe SMH
The closeup view angle from LF made it pretty clear there was daylight between the spikes and bag before the ball was in the glove. And that angle can be time-synced to ensure the ball was not in the glove before the foot came off.
Glad the game wasn’t decided on that though, would’ve been brutal
I’m talking about after as his foot came off. The zoomed in close up look seemed like it may have tapped.
It sure looked like it, but I’m glad we’re not gonna have people saying “ASTERISK WIN!” for the rest of the series
Fandom is a hell of a drug. He was clearly off the bag
Not for the catch, after. In the zoomed in slo mo it looked like his spike clipped the bag. You see his foot move.
The spike looked like it was close, which should have probably let it stand. Thank goodness it didn’t matter
I have a theory that if his cleats were completely black, the spikes would have looked closer to the bag. They were dirt-stained and created an illusion that there was more space between the bag and his foot than there actually was. I could also be completely off.
No, he was clearly safe. Also glad it didn’t matter
Definitely not. I don’t even know where some of you think that could’ve happened.
I was here for the controversy but yea probably shoulddddd be an out regardless
Yup
That’s been an out for 150 years.
Remember when they could be like 3 feet away from second base? Those were crazy days.
Right because baserunners used to be able to hit 2Bmen like ray lewis hit receivers over the middle in 2005
Really?! I didnt watch baseball much til the last 10 yrs. I didn’t realize baseball used to be a contact sport lol
Right and the reason was that the baserunner was allowed to slide 3 feet off the bag and try to break their leg to prevent a DP
By God that’s Chase Utley music
Dustin Pedroia 😔
Honestly I’m fine with a different set of rules here in the postseason. I get that over a 162 game regular reason we can have some leeway in the interest of guys not getting hurt. But this is the World Series and if our super high res/fps cameras show his foot wasn’t on the bag let’s get it right here.
That’s what I thought of too. They used to be not even close to the bag in these situations and they would still be called out.
I used to get so angry at that when I was a wee lad.
But not for the last 10 years. The neighborhood rule was changed before the 2016 season.
It’s still an out live every time. I think we’re going to start seeing this challenged all the time because I’d guess at least 10% of double plays turned involve stepping off early. Which I kinda hate, this and popup slide scrutiny is the same energy as the NFL reviewing catches by the letter of the law
I swear there was a rule that you didn’t actually have to touch the bag, to avoid collisions
The neighborhood rule
It’s not a thing anymore
Fuck Chase Utley
All my homies hate Chase Utley.
Yes, people would be upset if we all saw that he was safe and they didn’t overturn it. Is that really surprising?
There explicitly is replay review on neighborhood calls: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/neighborhood-play
The amendments to the sliding rules were implemented after a 2015 season in which a number of middle infielders were injured by sliding baserunners while covering second base. In accordance with the rule change, MLB determined that questionable slides and the neighborhood play would both now be reviewable by instant replay.
But there isn’t supposed to be challenges on neighborhood calls
According to whom?
They changed that 10 years ago
Yeah Utley would have cleated that guy’s nuts off
RIP the neighborhood
THER GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD!
We used to be a proper game.
So ? His foot was off the base
It’s the right call.
But my comment is still true; that was an out for 150 years.
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Yeah in the 150 years before a play back lol
10 years ago this was an out even with replay.
Yeah I feel like a quarter of double plays the fielder’s foot is off 2nd.
It shouldn’t be.
And now because of technology we don’t have to have a World Series game decided by a bad call.
Yeah. They’re not reviewing this during the regular season
A good manager absolutely is if they still have a challenge remaining… it’s a game deciding play
Yeah that isn’t a rule anymore.
Yes, they can. For the past decade.
In the 9th with a challenge remaining on a play that would otherwise end the game???
Are you fucking high? There’s no bonus points for unused challenges. Every single manager on the planet challenges in this situation
Yes they are, every time
The Texas Rangers asked for a review on the “Donaldson Dash” game-ending play in 2016 based on Edwin’s slide, but it was obvious to everyone in the building it wasn’t going to be overturned. If you have a challenge at the end on something that might even be remotely close, you use that challenge.
Shouldn’t have been
Absolutely, we all know what a double play looks like. The neighborhood play should have survived into the replay era, I am beyond fine if the foot is technically off the bag.
I think it did for a while. As I recall it wasn’t challengeable for at least a few years after replay review was implemented
The reason they were lax about it in the past was to protect infielders from getting blown up. Since that’s no longer allowed I think it’s fair to make them get an actual force out
Why would you want a rule that’s like “yeah so usually you need to step on the base for an out, but in this situation we have a totally undefined judgment call to make instead”? double plays should be hard to execute, you get 2 whole outs on them!
Because judgment is a thing, does anyone watching this really not want this to be an out?
I was and am entirely fine with the neighborhood rule. “Close enough” is a fine metric.
I mean do you watch regular season games? Incredibly easy overturn
Should still be an out. Ticky-tack bullshit like that is not within the spirit of the rule.
He didn’t touch the base with the ball in his possession. By definition an out hasn’t been made. How could you possibly mental gymnastics yourself into thinking the spirit of the rule is okay with that?
Hes probably against the pitch clock and ABS too.
Those I can at least kind of understand. The pitch clock does speed things up and while most people like it, I can get why some wouldn’t like the change. And ABS can be seen as imperfect because the ball tracking isn’t perfect for tenth of an inch measurements. But to be against the fielder needing to actually make an out to make an out is just stupid.
I am.
He was on the base and pushed off the base and was a quarter of an inch from the base. It’d be different if he was stretching for the ball and stretched too far. Shortstops for generations have been told to drag their foot over it, often times that means you snagged your foot once and perhaps caught it on the way down.
How could you possibly mental gymnastics yourself into thinking the spirit of the rule is okay with that?
Because no one prior to replay was getting upset about it. Like the original guy said, it’s been an out for 150 years with no one caring. People have always argued about whether a pitch was .1 in outside or not and now we know. No one has ever argued that a guys foot just barely dribbled off the bag on a clean double play (until the past few years)
Funny how salty reds and mariners fans in this sub are
Knowing the rules and being baffled by people who want to ignore them is salty?
Might as well get rid of ABS then?
Shit like this is why it doesn’t work for baseball. I’d rather have the umps be terrible. Sorry.
The rule is the rule. Why have any rules if this is your perspective? Let’s just have them play Calvinball.
Ball don’t lie.
He’s “in the vicinity”, as they say
That hasn’t been a thing for 10 years.
That foot may have scraped the bag oh my god
Yeah I think his spike may have dragged it after he caught the ball. Wouldn’t have overturned
One of the angles made it seem that way, I think the white cleat and white base made it tough to tell
The other angle was clear, his foot never came back down
Yeah it sure looked like his shoe rippled
I thought i saw the shoe move on that cleat scrape but super hard to tell, definitely right call to over turn based on cameras
DID THEY OVERTURN?
I have never been so torn on a call. I think he dragged a cleat but there’s absolutely no proof of it and I probably would overturn…
Bullshit
I thought the phantom touching of second base was one of the unwritten rules of baseball
I believe the whole neighborhood thing went away when the slide rules changed and players weren’t allowed to Chase Utley your career to an end.
I know Chase Utley is a piece of shit, but can we please add in Chris Coghlan? He deserves equal credit for dirty ass slides for what he did to Jung Ho Kang
Obligatory “Fuck Chase Utley”
Well it was until 2016. It’s been 10 years now.
That’s what I thought. Changed since reviews became a thing?
Changed when people stopped clattering into players on second to break up the play.
Gone for a decade now. Blame Chase Utley mostly.
Wasn’t there an “eh close enough” rule at some point for turning 2?
Neighborhood rule went away when they changed the sliding rules
We have slow mo replay and challenges now so keep your foot on the bag.
Will Smith’s PTSD nightmare scenario.
If this type of close scrutiny can apply to defensive players, it needs to happen on the batter too. Caminero struck out on that non-call check swing. Let that be reviewable.
The problem with a check swing is that there’s no objective definition of it in the rules right now. So there’s no real way to review that with the current rules.
They’re testing a rule that would set a swing at anything above a 45° angle from the plane of home plate in the lower leagues right now (which is quite generous to batters) along with a corresponding challenge system. But the current MLB rules just say it’s a strike if the batter makes “an attempt to strike at the ball” with no further guidance.
This is the most important statement people who complain about challenges misunderstands. It has to be measurable, defined, and non-judgement to allow review
Absolutely, but that’s an MLB driven decision. Define a rule, measure it, and make it challenge-able. That’s not that hard.
Tbf, “I know it when I see it” is a valid ruling according to the US Supreme Court. So I guess it’s good enough for MLB Umpires
And the swing in question prolly didn’t break 45 degrees so all the people bitching are wrong anyway. They never call a checked swing unless they straight up swing
TIL that there’s no objective definition for a checked swing. Isn’t it if the bat crosses front plane of home plate? Or goes past parallel with home plate?
Those are common points of discussion along with whether the batter rolled their wrists over or not. And I would say they are factors umpires use when making calls on whether a batter swung or not, but this is mostly for debate among commentators/fans and has no basis in the actual rules.
Here’s what the check swing challenge system looks like in Tripe-A if you’re interested: https://youtu.be/EHRLP91WFws?si=HAe6qm_5vtJYi8rk
There is an objective strike zone. If the bat is inside that zone when the ball goes past it should count as “striking at it”
They’re testing it in the minors. It wouldn’t have been a swing under that system.
I mean it also scrutinizes baserunners equally. For example stealing a base, if theres a split second where your hand comes off before your leg of other body part makes it back on its an out now. And in the past that would have been safe basically every time.
I think this is good to recognize. As people complain about the analysis of whether or not the baseman’s foot was on the bag, they do the same thing for runners and whether or not they they were touching the bag when the ball was caught
The technology exists and is being tested in the minors, correct?
That technology would not have called Caminero out. Its line for a check swing is the baseline, which didn’t get crossed
They’re doing a trial in the minors of a system for challenging those swings but it seems like you have to break the foul line not just start to come around or something like that.
Except the rule is clear about keeping your foot on the base. There’s no check swing rule. I like the no call ending a game on a borderline check swing is lame
Yeah trust me, losing a postseason game on a check-swing-strike-3 sucks. Ask me how I know.
Don’t have to ask. I haven’t stopped thinking about it for 5 years.
Wasn’t even borderline tho
If the reviewable check swinge thing in the minors were used in that at bat, he would not have gone
Check swing rule is like way past the plate. I’m not sure why people think it is at the plane of the plate. That is something that dumb anouncers have gaslit us into thinking
Stop lmao. It was borderline.
He clearly broke his wrists. Let’s just let every batter take some swings huh. He was out. If they lost, yes it would be a huge deal.
Was not borderline. Had MKE lost that game, that would be the primary talking point of how bad a ump fucked up
Too bad he’s on the plate tomorrow. That was a clown ass call.
There’s no rule for what is and is not a swing so there’s nothing to review
Caminero woulda been safe on that check swing if we were using the review technology they have in the minors lmao.
That was pretty much 50⁄50… definitely not “for sure” a swing. Also, there is no definition in the rule book on what a check swing is, so that makes it pointless. If an umpire thinks he swung, it’s a swing. And it’s 100% the discretion of the umpire. So, he wasn’t wrong…. because he technically cannot be wrong on a check swing.
The first overhead view was the most convincing. It looked like he clearly broke his wrists from that angle.
So? “Breaking the wrists” is not a rule.
There isn’t a check swing rule lol
it was a swing
They’re currently working on a more consistent check swing call system kind of like abs. So they are aware.
They need to make a definition of a check swing for next year that isn’t “Umpire’s discretion”.
Not t reviewable but it was definitely an attempt to swing. I have no dog in the fight m, just enjoying the last bit of baseball
Very good point.
We’re talking about fractions of an inch and he definitely offered on that pitch
The issue is how “fractions of an inch” is an objectively measurable thing while “he definitely offered on that pitch” is not
Fractions of an inch from 90+ feet away. Hmm…they have the money, put a camera above home plate and be done with it. Oh, can’t do that for every stadium? Fine put it IN home plate pointing up.
You don’t get it man, there is no rule stating exactly what a swing is. It’s literally just if the ump thinks he took a swing or not.
You are correct. Chris Farley gif
Me with a High Life in hand explaining to the Gen Z fans around me at the bar that back in my day this was a vibes play
Everyone is saying this has been an out for 150 years, and it has. And it was called an out on the field.
This is the last play of a World Series game so the Rays are being negligent if they don’t challenge. One you bring the replay review into the equation, you bring in the scrutiny of the rules and enforcing them as written based on the video evidence.
I could argue that there was enough doubt whether Pratt’s cleats remained in contact or his cleat clipped the edge of the bag that the call on the field should stand, but ultimately if they felt his foot didn’t touch at any point while he had the ball then I think they were right to overturn it.
Stopped being an out for the last 10 years
Edit: I realize that me and the comment I responded to are saying the same thing here, but I’m leaving it as evidence to support this person for the others that are arguing otherwise
I think my post was pretty clear that I understand that. Did you read it?
2am brain definitely didn’t interpret the comment correctly lol. Edited my comment as a way to support yours
I’m sure your link was still helpful for people 😊Good game last night. I hope they’re all that close.
This should be the top comment.
Now everyone knows for the rest of the series.
The neighborhood play is dead
I have zero skin in this (Jays fan 🇨🇦). His foot did come off the bag. Just barely. Good eye on whomever called the review.
But was it off the bag the whole time the ball was in his glove?
I think his foot left the bag just as the ball hit his glove. It’s really close.
Yes, clearly.
If you think it’s clear, you’ve seen a replay that’s better than any that I’ve seen, or you’re delusional.
You either need functioning eyeballs or you’re delusional. Neat, eh?
Huge brewers fan here and in a crowd of similar folks cheering and we all agreed it was the right call. If they’re going to win this game we want it without any controversy.
I have his cleat clipping the edge of the bag at the last second
That’s what I see too
Ball don’t lie 😤
The number of people in this thread who think whether the fielder was in possession of the ball while in contact with the bag (you know, the literal definition of a force out) is ticky-tacky is wild.
Well, its not ticky tacky, it is the rule. I think a lot of people have just seen that exact play 1000 times called exactly the same way, even in the last 10 years.
However, it never gets reviewd. If you went back and reviewed every double play, I bet there would Be a solid 10-20% that you could overturn the same way. People aren’t used to seeing it scrutinized, even if it is right.
Could Simpson have scored on this play? If he had kept running and crossed home plate after the out at first would they have counted the run or sent him back to 3rd? I wonder if Bauers would have thrown home even if they got both outs called on the field. Would’ve been such an interesting way to end game 1 of the World Series lol
No the call on the field ends the game, as it should. It’s like the whistle ends the play in football
Are you sure this isn’t a Fourth Out situation?
It wouldn’t be a Fourth Out situation, because they have no way to get anyone out. More that the umps have to use discretion on where the runners would have been had they ruled him safe.
Looks like a 4th out situation.
I liked the quick view of Cooper Pratt blowing a long exhale after the final out :)
Imagine that poor guy being responsible for losing WS game 1……
I think the foot came off and then came back on the bag.
I think the foot was in a superposition between came off and came on
His foot was both on and off the bag, depending upon whether you observe it or not.
Quick, everyone close your eyes!
Schrödinger’s Cleat
I’m honestly shocked they didn’t do the ole “upheld, not confirmed” type deal. Cuz that would’ve been the correct call
Yes, I thought I saw some dirt fly off the edge of the bag as his foot was moving down and over the edge. I would like to see the video the replay officials use at the same resolutions.
Foots off the bag
I was second baseman. Steel/Metal spikes on the end of the shoes made these plays have to change. Those shoes are basically knives as a second baseman you are definitely going to jump out of the way
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Right call made.
Love how they waited until the call was being made to bring in Andy Fletcher the rules expert so he could say “yes that’s the correct call”
And he could barely articulate a simple sentence lol
I honestly thought for a second there that he was having a stroke on live television.
A lot more than other professional sports can say