Sorry they ruined your hate watch last year!

At least now you can act like they might have won again

I feel like with the speed of the game and how it’s played now, you see teams like ah 2 non shooters on the floor at once not gonna work, all 5 matter but if you pay 2 of them 40 mil, the other 3 probably average 15 mil each so it’s not like they all get paid the same amount they still get paid more for their production

Or just simply make the supermax 30% and max 25, I’m sure there’s nba didn’t account for the explosion of money coming in, when 5% of 50 mil is a big difference to 5% of 20 mil, maybe even lower it to like 32% super max and 27% max and no bonus increases just because you’re getting older

Nah, supermax should only be reserved for the true superstars in the league.

If you are going to have multiple, then you have to sacrifice depth.

You already get 7 years of cheaper deals when you draft a player. Lottery odds shouldn’t give you an infinite advantage.

Have seen this suggested before and it makes so much sense.

Yeah, there were quite a few guys this year who didn’t even get MLE money for whom getting the MLE would have been settling in prior years.

I don’t have the link but someone actually looked at the numbers and this is not true.

Literally not true at all. Most of the middle class NBA players are being paid appropriate amounts, you could argue that the end of rotation guys are hurt the most (not end of bench) because some of them used to get slightly more than the min, but now they’re pretty much getting the minimum, but the minimum has increased 50% faster than the salary cap over the last 25 years.

Only 7% of the PA qualify for an all star spot in a given year. Lets give it 10% for injury replacements and one time all stars due to team success. Plus once you are in, name recognition really helps you stay in that tier of players.

Why wouldn’t the other 80% of the PA not vote for a system that gives them more money?

Why do we need to give teams infinite benefit for lottery odds falling in their favor?

You get 6-7 years of players not even qualifying for the supermax.

I said the supermax should count as a regular max for the cap for a while but owners would want it to count so they don’t have to pay more all around

I mean it’s not that quick, that was 5 years ago

Maybe cause of the attention Durant, Kyrie and Harden demanded?

It helped that he had prime Harden to work off of PnRs, less so KD

The only Nets player to score in the OT of playoffs game 7 vs the Bucks at home… the one where KD had 0 pts on 0-6 bricking

He looked like he had zero motivation to be on the court

Brown was just as good in Brooklyn BEFORE Denver. This need to credit Jokic with everything is absurd.

He was ass in Toronto

People forget he was a key piece of those teams

He was on the record saying the GM/FO of Den told him they dont want him back and not to pick up his PO. Im sure he didnt want to leave on the acct that he had no handshake deal w any team and that it took him almost a month before the Kangz signed him.

Once a generation there’s a player who just sucks personality wise and gets kicked from the team to team, regardless of talent. These same players alwaaaays have people projecting on them whining about how “they never got a chance.”

AI -> Dwight -> Russ/CP3 -> ? I wonder who will be next.

We saw a prime example of why teams can’t start doing that with Jalen Duren this off season. A team can’t just give a guy a 30 million dollar deal and the guy is like “oh yeah that’s what I’m worth”, if you have a borderline all star usually that borderline all star doesn’t think they’re borderline at all and will fight for every dollar possible

People overestimate negotiating skills versus leverage.

Though didn’t players appoint a corrupt Executive Director to represent them or hire the negotiators.

They were told he had no integrity and are happy being screwed.

Those guys are vets who arent stars. Naji Marshall is gonna be older than brown is now whenever the contract starts.

But anyway Dillon brooks got like 25 million a season. Wiggins got 17 mil. Zach Collins got ²⁄₁₇ for some reason. CJ McCollum making 20 mil this year. Porzingis getting 20 mil a season.

Not even sure what your point is cause the problem with brown is he isn’t effective and the league thinks that. A lot of role playing vets have gotten paid. Mikal bridges is getting 40 mil a season

“Wiseman is competing with Tony Bradley, Drew Eubanks, Bruce Brown and Ochai Agbaji for the spot. New York is expected to carry only 14 players to avoid crossing the second tax apron.”

Tacko bout a Fall-back plan*

He’s on a 2-way right now.

I’m pretty sure we’re just going to play with a PF at C like Wade or Barlow and go small ball instead of playing him I think he’s cooked.

There’s no reason to make that call this early. Say someone’s shooting guard gets hurt and they’re willing to trade a good cheap center for McBride. Then all of a sudden brown is the obvious pick. Or if wiseman gets hurt

I wont argue that his play isn’t his issue for lack of contract.

I do wonder how willing he was in the first week of free agency to take a deal from a lottery bound team. Or did he instruct his agent to only accept calls from teams in playoff contention.

He was a decent role player for the Nuggets, avging 8 4 and 2 with 1.2 stocks playing in all 82 games and shooting 48%/39%/76% in 24 minutes.

Directly comparable in production to Hauser at less than a third of the salary.

And those 2/3s are able to reap the benefits from those who do pay. But ownership has been happy to push forward the second apron as a boogeyman rather than the profit incentive which might previously have been at the forefront.

In what way wasn’t he “good”? He played all 82, put up 8, 4, and 2 with 1.2 stocks in 24 min/gm and shot above league averages.

Okay but it wouldn’t be just one year unless they were going to effectively salary dump their core like the Celtics had to do. If KAT gets a max extension and Hart gets a nice extension, there will be no getting under the second apron by the time OG and Brunson need to be extended. It will be incredibly difficult without basically tearing down the whole roster for not great returns. As I’m sure you know, its a tough spot to be in. Personally I’d like to try and keep this roster’s window open for another couple years but long term planning wise, that might not be the best move. Whatever ends up happening though, I’m just so happy to witnessed my team win a chip, even moreso in the fashion that they did, that I won’t be too upset with whatever the front office decides to do. If it were up to me though, everyone gets paid and we deal with the fallout of the second apron penalties cause I just love this squad.

it doesnt allow you some trades and stuff that the Knicks arent doing anyways

They made an in-season trade last year that ended up being very important in their playoff run. They essentially traded Yabusele, 2 SRPs, and cash for Alvarado. If I was Leon Rose, I would avoid shutting the door on that optionality this year (especially because backup C is very precarious right now).

Maybe the edict did come down from Dolan, but I bet Rose prefers to keep some wiggle room just in case

Everything I heard was the front office wanted to go into the 2nd apron this year.

Eh the only person I’ve seen actually claim that is Katz. Legit Knicks fan, but he’s been off the beat for years and got some FO vs Dolan stuff wrong last offseason. I wouldn’t trust him to have any sources or insight there.

Why would the Knicks go into the second apron this year when they have extensions for a bunch of players coming up in the next few years? If we’re going to dip into it, we’d be better off waiting

It turned out so well for the Celtics tho…

It’s not like he’s completely unplayable out the league bad or anything but I feel his defence has took a serious decline and he’s not as good as you want him to be off ball but isn’t good enough to keep the ball in his hand a lot.

He was bad in Toronto. No impact at all. Maybe wasn’t even trying, even for a tanking team, and front offices may have seen that.

“Wiseman is competing with Tony Bradley, Drew Eubanks, Bruce Brown and Ochai Agbaji for the spot. New York is expected to carry only 14 players to avoid crossing the second tax apron.”