The current NBA Europe idea is a bust. According to some sources, Silvers proposal was ”colonial” which I translate to one-sided and propably ignored the essence of European basketbal heritage of club basketball. Not to compare, but even NBA Africa was a bust after few years or so I’ve understood. European basketball indeed is a great product (which NBA has caught on), but we do shitty job of marketing it, which means losing money on it. I think Euroleague does better as a rival league, but there is a collaboration potential, for sure. Marketing, having a common cup tournament etc. But Euroleague, or European leagues in general, cannot just be another feeder system into NBA like the G-league. Like how some 500 year old multisport club can agree to that?

I disagree

Fiba is so much of a better product but I think a lot has to do with the way officiating calls the game

Maybe that’s something the nba fan fix independently but it’s only gotten worst decade after decade

exactly

Growing the sport of basketball around the world is a good thing. Doing it on the NBA’s terms only isn’t.

what is there to round out in the domestic side? Hes 3x/4x the league in about 10 years clean. the TV money is unimaginable compared to where it was 2 contracts ago. the leagues logical move given every MVP is now not American is to offer an easier pipeline and product they can watch in their time zone.

Silver just wants the Euroleague’s revenue to give to his owners. So obviously many Euroleague clubs would balk.

Oh and, the NBA already told the NBAPA that this is revenue the owners get to keep for themselves.

Is it a surprise Silver’s longtime best friend is Jared Kushner?

Short answer - we don’t. Long answer - fuck no we don’t want

People don’t want it, Silver is imagining people will get over it once they see the product in action and they’ll attract non Euro League fans

Some are interested, some are not. For instance the NBA Europe franchises would exclude clubs in the European basketball heartland like Lithuania or Serbia. The current NBAE offer supposedly only offered them a place in FIBA Eurocup (if Euroleague is 2nd tier, Eurocup is 3rd tier) so that caused obviously some outrage. And of course you have clubs on the sidelines that are currently outside Euroleague but would want into NBAE like newly founded Maxima Roma or established Alba Berlin (quit Euroleague on their own because of “some fallout”)

I have never ran into a European that wanted the NBA in Europe. It doesn’t make sense on any level for why Europe should just become vassals to the NBA and accept being second class basketball citizen. Club=/=franchises. The teams would be despised, outside of maybe London which doesn’t have a basketball culture. I’m sure America would be adverse if a European organisation attempted a take-over and establish a European company at the head of one of the Amercan sports.

Silver doesn’t undertand European sports anymore than the oiler governments.

American living in Europe. Hell no I don’t want the NBA here. I have a euroleage team 15 mins walk from my house. The NBA will make everything worse.

why would fans not want to watch nba quality basketball in their time zone, instead of being up at 5am to watch the lakers play.

this would allow that and allow talent to more easily get to the nba via these local nba sponsored teams.

I suspect the more common take would be that we already have way too much USA here.

I don’t think the majority of us do, no.

Not really. It just waters down competition in Europe, splitting it in further leagues.

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Guess they believe London is a more lucrative market than Omaha,Nebraska, which is not incorrect in theory, but i think there are a lot of things not taken into consideration. Speaking of London for example, if there was actual demand for basketball in the city, there would have already been high profile clubs, hell the UK has a bunch of Football clubs who could field a basketball team. Brits seem more interested in football, and same could be said for many other EU countries (The Netherlands, Belgium, etc).

Even countries with significant basketball pedigree, like Germany, don’t really have the kind of viewership and success you’d expect, because again, football is more popular. The countries where Basketball is a big enough deal to warrant the NBA’s attention are already full of teams (Spain, Greece, Serbia, Turkey), and the few where it’s a large enough deal but there aren’t many big clubs are too small for what the NBA would want(Baltic states).

And that’s before we even get to the heart of the matter, who exactly is gonna be playing in NBA Europe? I assume it would attract attention from G-Leaguers, Stars on the twilight of their careers who would have otherwise gone to China, and maybe some people who would have gone to the Euroleague but were won over by larger salaries. So no guys like SGA, Brunson, Edwards, aka the guys people want to actually see. Perhaps i can see Jokic making the move to be closer to his horses and his home, but i don’t see many others who would do the same.

So the NBA is proposing to build a bunch of artificial teams with no real history, fill them up with second grade talent by NBA standards, and then what? I just don’t see how they expect to capture an audience that is already invested in Euroleague, nor do i see them actually creating a new one in the cities that previously didn’t have a large team. I suppose it could get a couple people to switch the channel when a Euroleague game isn’t playing, but maintaining them isn’t gonna be that easy.

Dunno, maybe i’m just too skeptical and the people in the NBA know something i don’t, but i guess we’ll see.

The NBA would never want a team in every state lol, what a stupid point lol.

According to Greek media, Barcelona is actually one of the teams against the proposal and even called it a joke. They also mentioned that the 4 teams in favor of continuing talks, albeit after an improved offer are Panathinaikos, Real Madrid, Bayern and Fenerbahce.

Not quite NFL Europe as American Football was a brand new thing and basketball culture is well established in most of these European cities. However it is a blatant money grab from the league that is embarrassing in so many ways.

Utter Yank nonsense.

yup. Rich people like money and they’re holding out. Simple negotiation tactic. Never take the first offer and you have to be willing to walk away

Yea, it is going to get done eventually. People who don’t like it need to start crying about it now lol. Way too many financially strapped European teams who would happily take a buyout. The first domino that falls is going to cause a chain reaction.