I can’t picture Rui in a Lakers jersey

Trading what assets?

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No, both Vando and Knecht were and are negative value.

Dalton AT BEST is contract filler.

Rui had the biggest tradeable contract (and was expiring) last year, and there were no takers. I know this sub isn’t the peak of basketball knowledge but Laker fans got shit on for any package including Rui as positive value.

JJ also hates rui, last possession in playoffs we needed a 3 to tie, a couple secs left, rui was shooting 50% from 3s.

JJ subs rui out… Like wtf

Rui also greatest 3 point playoff % in nba history

I think the only way they could have kept him, assuming he wanted the same amount the Clippers gave him, would be to waive and stretch Vanderbilt and pass on Sexton. That’s a massive commitment for a player whose trade market was supposedly worth only a couple of 2nds. You could easily argue that going with vanderbilt and sexton is a better fit for what the team needed, with vanderbilt bringing perimeter defense (though some claim his offense makes him unplayable) and sexton as a ball handler off the bench who can be a microwave scorer and potentially pop off every now and then for 15-20 points.

I just honestly feel the opposite with how this offseason played out for him. He turned down a better deal from the Spurs to end up with the most downtrodden franchise in the league on a deal without player control. Coming off a career best year, too. Not ideal.

Context is important. He’s a PF being asked to chase guards on the perimeter because Lebron was too old. Rui is a good post defender but struggles against quick guards. He was also top 3 on the team in boxing out so Luka could pad his rebound stats

Ok but that doesn’t relate to what OP asked

good thing consistent shooting’s pretty important

Taller Luke Kennard

Ehhhh. Not a huge Duran fan, but that does not sound better lol

The Bucks being interested isn’t the same as the Pistons being interested. Also Turner blocks shots but isn’t that good to trade Duren

Were the pistons interested or did they fart on the phone

So… why is this telling you Rui is their guy? Rui is only a shooter and can only shoot when he’s wide open. Duncan Robinson is a better player on both ends.

And you want them to get rid of Duren for a defensive/focused center? Keep in mind this team had a top-3 defence in the league last season.

Let’s just say its a good thing you’re not a GM.

So not Rui, he is not a “semblance of a second option”. Istg you people saw a 10 game playoff sample size and decided he’s way more than he is lol. The secondary scorer would have to be someone that has shown it over a long time, the Bucks have a couple but the one I would say would be ideal and worth sending draft capital for is not for sale unless he does some “I’m not re-signing” thing.

E: the second option offensively needs to be a playmaker who can move off ball and score by themselves, not another glorified Duncan Robinson. Idk if I’m delusional in thinking that Jenkins might be that if he develops some consistency.

Ik, this is another argument against signing Rui for Detroit actually, he fits into a niche that’s already overpopulated

Defensively he’s a 4 now. He’s not fast enough to be a 3. At least that’s my vague understanding.

Every advanced metric thinks Mamu is a much much better defender overall than Rui.

He’s not good on the perimeter but he’s better at all the little things that Rui is abysmal at.

thats the thing with Rui his percentage is obviously very good but he doesnt shoot enough so it doesnt impact the offense as much as it should.

The game is more than shoot and defend. He’s a better passer better rebounder and overall just bigger can actually play the 5.

Rebounding…

If they had a real stater quality 4, manu would just be backup center for Kessler I’d imagine

Rui didn’t even sign for much. If the lakers thought they could have a competitive team with his salary then they could have re-signed him easy with all their space

Man if it becomes clear we should’ve kept Rui all these mfs better not switch to letting Rui walk being a travesty

It’s absolutely embarrassing

Rui is one of the worst defenders in the league. His pull up and 3s make it seem like he’s a great player, but the man can’t defend and is very athletic but can’t laterally move.

You’d think so but Mamu is making \(13mil per year over four years and Rui is making \)14mil per year over 2 years. So he’s more expensive overall. That’s Rob Pelinka for you.

Based on a huge sample of one series

And what’s the sample size?

I believe you, but luka will raise his floor significantly.

He increased his minutes when half the team was out with injuries? Shocking.

He increased Luke Kennard and Jake Laravia’s minutes too.

The lakers didn’t have alternative options. They were were already top heavy and after missing Luka and Reaves there’s 0 choice in the matter

Then you didn’t watch laker games.

Which part was confusing?

Mamu is a better rebounder, better passer and better finisher.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mamuksa01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hachiru01.html

Mamu is better than Rui in virtually every single advanced stat including PER, TS, Rebound rate, Assist R, Blk R, Steal R, BPM

Mamu is significantly worse than Rui.

Everyone knows he can shoot but if the argument for not keeping Rui is that he can shoot but can’t defend it doesn’t make sense to replace him with Mamu who cannot start at the 4 despite a glaring hole at that position because he too cannot defend wings and he’s not the shooter or playoff riser Rui is to make up for it. I can see the logic in letting go of Rui if the goal is to get better on defense I just don’t see the logic in paying Mamu $52 million to be that replacement.

Another thing people don’t get is if Rui went to Pelinka at the start of free agency with the Clippers contract, Lakers likely keep Rui.

What probably happened was Rui went to Pelinka and asked for 3 years / 60 mil, Lakers said no, money dried up in FA, and Rui wanted to stay in LA so he took the contract he did.

At jumpshooting, there is absolutely no question that Rui is better. At almost every other facets of the game, you could argue Mamu is better at or at least equivalent to Rui lol…

Mamu is not a serviceable defender at all. Delusion. Rui is playable in the playoffs. Mamu is not.

Yea that’s why mamu got benched in the playoffs lmao. The guy doesn’t play defense and couldn’t make a shot. At least with rui his shooting percentages went up a ton in the playoffs

no the fuck hes not lmaoo

He is a serviceable and better defender than Rui by a WIDE margin

Oh my, this’ll be a fun season for non Laker fans, I can feel it in my bones already.

Hes not rui on offense tho

This. All this. So many excel gms in here and only looking at the stats. Rui has low bball iq. And as you well put it. Does not play winning basketball

He signed for a flat ²⁄₂₈ with the 2nd year being a team option

Yeah I don’t know what Lakers got in Mamu but I watched Rui for years. He definitely improved his shooting but he couldn’t play defense or rebound

Yeah people see him make jumpers and get excited, but forgot about all the others things that he doesn’t do consistently. If Lakers really needed someone like that, they would’ve just re-signed Kennard, who has very similar strengths and flaws, with also elite efficiency from 3pt. But they didn’t, even when he was available on a cheap deal, which greatly points towards that it was not the kind of player the Lakers needed or were targeting. Mamu whilst obviously not as efficient as Rui was from 3pt and mid range, he is a higher volume scorer (whilst still being respectable in efficiency), better at rebounding and playmaking.

Of course that’s not to say that Mamu is definitely a better player than Rui, Mamu has his flaws too, but basically the Lakers decided to go for someone who could do more different things rather than being one-dimensional.

It’s cope man. Cope and delusion.

wtf rui is a great player you fukin moron

Reaves is a worse defender than Rui team wise. Did you boys forget that okc series and the previous postseason series vs the wolves? What about against the Nuggets both times? Reaves was the guy hunted in all of those. He needs a scheme to cover his defense.

Will Rui sign that 13M for 4 year contract? When he is at 17M that time?

So is Rui but at least Mamu rebounds

And yet the raptors were still better defensively while he was on the court last year while the Lakers were worse with rui

But that isn’t the point, you don’t have to play the same position as someone to fill the same need specially if that need is 4th option scoring which is what Rui is on the Lakers. If Sexton fills the role of 4/5th option scoring while also being able to run the 2nd string offense then that is more than Rui can be on the Lakers

Not sure why you thought that was relevant to what I said.

Have a great week!

Hi playoff stats from just a few months ago were even better.

Try actually watching ball neph.

Against the Clippers? 😒