Hey, I’m not defending it, I’m just saying that’s the rationale.

He literally just outplayed JB in a playoff series. He’s a much better shooter, especially from 3, and defender. How does that not help you win games?

Flatly ridiculous assertion lol

boston asked for more stuff from everybody else, they settled on our deal

Not lining up because you can’t afford something vs not lining up because something isn’t desirable is two separate things.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

The NBA cap/apron structure makes it impossible for more than half the league to make a reasonable offer. Then on top of that you have rebuilding teams who aren’t giving up picks to surround a 30 year old with bad players on a team that won’t make the playoffs.

Your response is such bad faith to imply that all 29 teams had a legitimate path to acquiring him that made sense for the franchise.

That’s just a Sixers fan giving their most favorable slant to the whole situation. Not worth the mental energy

This is Occam’s Razor fallacy. The world is complex and the simplest solution is not always the answer to complex problems.

The NBA cap/apron rules are incredibly complex. There is no simple solution like you’re implying.

There are a lot of teams that couldn’t trade for Brown even if they wanted to.

There are other teams that could make a trade but it doesn’t make sense because it would require trading away their own star player (like Detroit giving up Cade).

Rebuilding teams would be forced to give up draft picks, which they aren’t going to do because it doesn’t make sense to give up picks for a 30 year old and surround him with other bad players.

To even be eligible to consider a trade a team would need to be competitive, in the exact right financial situation, with a player or players who easily match the salary, and enough picks to complete such a deal.

Very few teams meet that criteria.

And no, they hadn’t been shopping him around for awhile. The only thing that’s ever been hinted at is that they had preliminary talks with with Golden State that never really got deep. He was not widely discussed as a trade candidate at the deadline. If he had been, it would have been a major story at the time.

Just because Brad Stevens is a smart guy that doesn’t mean he can’t make bad moves. This is such a bad faith argument. Nowhere did I say I’m the smartest guy in the room. But every GM ever has made bad moves.

No they didn’t. There was not a single report about a serious trade conversation about Brown. That would have been a MAJOR story in the league had it actually happened the way you’re trying to retcon.

I keep telling people this. He’s good, he’s just not worth that contract. For people who think Brown got traded for peanuts, consider:

He was shopped at the deadline to Golden State and Boston asked for 4 first round picks, and what I can assume was Jimmy Butler to salary match. Golden State said no.

So they lowered their offer to Paul George, 2 first round picks, and 2 second round picks.

Karl Anthony Towns, who I consider comparable value to Jaylen Brown, was shopped for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and 1 first round pick when he was traded to NY. Kind of equal to the Brown/Paul George package.

The trade itself was pretty reasonable value for Brown, I think there’s just 2 things at play here:

1. Initially he was offered for Giannis. Giannis is much better than Paul George, so people are comparing these and saying 1 is so much worse than the other. But the calculus was the Bucks were asking for multiple picks and other players, the 76ers gave us picks. The swing of going from Giannis to Paul George is +4 picks for the Celtics (2 incoming as opposed to 2 outgoing). It’s not that absurd.

2. People expect the Celtics to make out like bandits. They are always winning trades, so when they had a trade that wasn’t an obvious win, it seems like they screwed up.

When you’re looking at the return in a vacuum of Brown vs George, the Celtics fucked up. When you’re looking at it with context of comparable trades and how that changes the Celtics outlook in 2-5 years from now and the kind of team they can build, it’s really not that crazy they wanted to pivot off of paying Brown top 5 player money until he’s 35 when he’s never going to be worth that. The Knicks are going through the same thing right now with KAT where they need him to take a pay cut or they’re kinda screwed for the short term with adding pieces to the current team and for the long term with trying to pivot off of massive overpaid contracts. Who is going to trade for KAT or Brown in their mid 30’s making $70M when the only ways to salary match are trading a superstar on a supermax, or gutting your depth by moving multiple expensive players? It’s an unmovable contract.

When Westbrook and Wall were making top 5 contracts, nobody wanted them, so they traded with each other, and Washington quickly moved off of Westbrook and Wall was I believe bought out neither were long term solutions. Westbrook in 2020 was still an All Star, All NBA-3rd team player. He was a top 15-20 guy in the NBA at 31 years old, not unlike Brown now. John Wall was often injured, coming off an Achilles, and out of the league in about 74 more games, not unlike the expectations for Paul George.

Westbrook, a former MVP and still a star, had a resume and still had value, but GM’s knew to not trade anything important for him because of the contracts. Nobody wants to see the forest through the trees here and think it’s disrespectful to get out from under a guy that is going to hold the team back if he’s taking up that much of the payroll. Yet those same people will call a team stupid for hanging onto a player for too long and throwing a bag at them (Bradley Beal).

First the Celtics were so stupid giving Brown a supermax, then they were smart because they won a championship and he was FMVP. Then they were stupid for trading him. Which is it? Redditors have goldfish memories that can only see 5 feet in front of them with no concept of foresight.

Don’t lie. We all know they weren’t looking to trade him until the Giannis deal blew up in their face.

We know what they were asking. They wanted 4 FRP & a swap (now way more valuable) from Golden State.

Had they asked for less he probably lands in Golden State and LeBron ends up there too.

But now you have to deal with Brown & LeBron.

Your trade value plummets if the team trading you is asking for 150cents on the dollar. Teams aren’t going to pay that.

If they had traded him during the season or at the deadline when teams are underperforming or overperforming and looking to make a big talent upgrade, I think they could’ve gotten a better return. I doubt the Cavs would’ve entertained at all trading Garland for Harden late in the offseason last year, but Garland was injured yet again and the Cavs really needed a top tier playmaker, so they took a big swing.

It’s not about the current contract, it’s about the massive extension that Brown will be due

Brown is a rep for the NBAPA. Asking for his full extension is practically in the job description. It wasn’t “offered” because the Celtics traded JB before he could officially ask for it/sign it, and now he can’t sign it until next summer with the 76ers.

If the Celtics got caught up in a messy contract dispute with Brown, this sub would be sitting here saying “why didn’t they just trade him if they didn’t want to extend him, are they stupid?”.

Regardless of whether you’re right that Flagg is the dream, why would Dallas even answer the phone?

No one is giving up a max level star for an old ass PG lmao y’all are delusional

They are Boston fans… Burke has admitted she’s a Boston Celtics fan and the league allowed her to call multiple Boston games including a finals game… They may have grown up in NY but they were huge Celtic fans.

Lmao you think any of the people I named are skilled journalists? They cover basketball compare that to real journalists in Ukraine and Palestine

I mean, I’m not gonna argue against you.

Exactly lmfao. People act like any offensive player before Kobe’s rookie season was garbage and today’s bench offensive players are as good that eras stars. If that’s the case, wouldn’t today’s defenders also be more skilled? But that’s never said - try to compare anybody playing today to rodman and pippen and youll see weeping on another level.

Honestly, I think defensive skill and tactics might have actually evolved marginally MORE than offensive skill and tactics. The rules have changed to favor offenses, meaning elite defenders have to work even harder on that end to be elite

Okay? And I disagree that it comes off as a hot take. I rarely see people say he’s bad, people say he’s not available. And for $50 million. That’s a direct response to your comment.

It doesn’t matter if you wrote a caveat at the end that you wouldn’t want him on your team. I responded to your rebuttal. Just because you don’t like that response doesn’t change that lol.