Charles Barkley: “I don’t want to be in no fraternity. A bunch of damn loser dudes getting together all the time… Only losers join fraternities.”
“I averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds. That was my GPA” lmao
Chuckster was on fire!
The whole frat thing really checks out wjth Shaq throwing buckets of poop on his teammates
Goes so hard
Chuck, please never change.
i know it’s a meme at this point but extremely, extremely common Chuck W
As a Suns fan so happy he is a former Sun and not someone like Karl Malone.
Cant remember the last time I saw a frat boy and was like: “I wanna be like that guy!”
Chuck has a point.
It looked cool when I was a 17-18 year old boy. And then by the time I could legally drink it was the stupidest thing ever
Once I was able to legally drink I felt like I lost half the joy of doing it. I feel like the drinking age being 21 encourages young people to go ham.
I don’t know why but there’s something so disappointing about buying the alcohol you drink yourself. It loses the spark almost
In Europe where drinking age is 16⁄18 most people by 21 have already phased out of heavy drinking
Yeah thats kinda the whole point tho. Gives you a place to drink when you are underage. No senior was hanging around the frats
Intramural game against a frat and I kinda got it in that moment. Cause me and the homies had just us like 7 there. Played against a frat that had like 40 woman pull up to watch em. I couldn’t even get the ladies I was with at the time to go to a game. In that moment I understood a lil bit the appeal
That’s surprising. Every time I ran into frat bros on the beach this summer, it was all guys with no women within a 50 ft radius. Made them look like a gay polycule tbh, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Honestly this comment does a great job showcasing why people join frats.
A bunch of guys hanging out together isn’t gay, and this heavy handed culture of policing whatever guys do makes frats one of the few outlets of “just guys” left thats easily observable.
I think the joke was that many frat dudes want so badly to be viewed as hypermasculine with the sole goal of “getting chicks”. Frats suck man. Every frat dude, and former frat dude, I have ever met gave off the rapiest vibes.
No one is saying that having male friends is gay
To be clear, I was making a joke in the context of the parent comment. I mean no offense to male friendships or gay people there.
If I’m to seriously assess frats from my own experience of joining one and then leaving within a month, I think there are some very elite frats that allow you to network with alums and peers that you may not have socioeconomic access to. But there’s also an overly official structure to the friendship and activities that didn’t jive with how I wanted to live life in college. Once I realized I’d have the same networking access without going through the whole song and dance because I can easily make friends with anyone I meet, I didn’t really see a reason to put up with the hassle anymore.
Well the just guys is the weird part. Like if you’re playing sports it makes sense you might end up with a room full of dudes hanging dong. Just from happenstance. If that’s just your passion it does invite the question of why. Like if you start a gun club it will be mostly dudes but you’ll still have a few butch ladies wander in from time to time.
That’s because they require their frats/sororities to go to these events.
Black frats definitely have folks who want to be like the older Alpha’s, Que’s, Kappa’s etc etc…
Same with the ladies who aspire to be a AKA and Delta..
I don’t want to act like I’m super knowledgeable about black frats but to me that seems like a completely different thing, not that they don’t party but they seem much more community/culture oriented where as typical Greek life is much more degenerate
Black frats can be pretty crazy too and they host big ragers too, it’s just not as popular in pop culture and not as widely discussed in America tbh. But as someone who has been around them and seen their events…they can be kinda sketch at times.
It’s homecoming season so them boys gonna be wild lol.
Let’s not forget the freaknik started as a hbcu frat party
No its basically the same thing lol
I’d honestly argue a lot of black frats are even more unchecked.
I’m not going to pretend I know anything but Cam James made a very illuminating video on the subject
It’s a little different. I imagine back in the day it was a lot different. Now not so much. Dudes in black frats be losers too
Most of these responses paint fraternities with a broad brush while most Black frats don’t have houses and have more active alumni members than undergrad.
Yeah.. it’s a different vibe… especially for us who went to HBCU’s where frat and soror culture are deeply rooted into HBCU’s.
You have 70 year olds still repping their colors and active lol.
I live in a college town, and there have been a couple of black frat/sorority events (reunions or something? I’m sorry, I know less than jack shit about Greek culture) here and I ABSOLUTELY saw men and women 60+ showing out for these events walking around town in their colors.
I definitely don’t see that with most of the other predominantly-white frats. But, very small sample size, so obviously just anecdotal.
It’s the point of points.
I couldn’t think of anything less appealing than joining this lowkey homoerotic group of fucking asshole 20 year old finance bros who humiliate you to join them, who haze, bully, rape, etc.
It’s a good old boys pipeline where their dads were good old boys who encouraged their sons to join to continue the good old boy tradition. Fucking blah.
It’s such LOSER shit and it’s insane they still exist.
I’ve never seen anything that made me think the homoeroticism was low key.
They feel the exact same way about you lmao
can’t remember the last time i saw a redditor and was like “i wanna be like that they/them!”
Black fraternities are a whole different ball game than the more common fraternities you see on campus. The ideals they promote and uphold are born out of racial oppression. They take the positive aspects way more seriously than others.
No they absolutely do not lol
Yes they do
I think the national organizations do a better job of promoting something positive, but on a chapter to chapter basis they are absolutely just the same if not more extreme in their hazing/parties as white frats.
A lot of them still do fucking branding lmao.
TF??? No they’re literally the same as every other fraternity
No they aren’t
Yes they are
Stfu no they don’t lol
You shut the fuck up. Bitch. Lol
Only losers become honorary FBI agents
Frats guys will be like “what happened at Cornell is an outlier” and then say it again the next week a story like that breaks.
They’ll also use the story as a punchline every day in between
Bingo
Their other only joke is thinking that the people that didn’t like them couldn’t get in. Yeah dude, I totally tried out for the elephant walk crowd and couldn’t grab dick good enough.
Charles speaks the truth on this one
“My grade point average was 20 points and 10 rebounds, that would get you in anywhere…”
Charles wasn’t lying, haha.
Agree 100%. One of the first things that confused me about college is why people subjected themselves to humiliation, hazing, embarassment, etc. just to join a collective group.
I remember talking to friends about it and how we’d all rather just skip class to go smoke a blunt and go pig out on junk food together than needing some type of initiation/group to enjoy each other’s company.
The idea is that it puts you in a network of people that might be beneficial to you in the future. Unfortunately, most frats are just full of dip shits that won’t do anything for you even if they ended up in a position to do so.
The actual idea is that a collective and shared suffering between peers is an easy way to build a bond. It’s dumb as fuck but that’s the logic behind it. It provides something that these people who were initiated at the same time can say “hey remember when we got fucked up…” etc etc. It basically forces third degree fun on the initiates
Look at the bots at work
This bot is written and produced to influence college kids to not be social, make connections, try in class. It’s telling us to fuck off and do drugs lol. And to not take school seriously
Now think WHY is Chuck doing this and why are there bots in here
I just made friends normally, I didn’t need to pay thousands of dollars for some faux greek aesthetic. The professional fraternities can be good
Paying to have friends in college basically.
wait, you have to pay fraternity fees? im 39 and I had no idea
Thousands of dollars over the course of college, yes
It’s easily \(1,000 per year at a mid sized school, large schools are looking at \)2,000+ if they have a frat house
Why do people act like this money isn’t being spent on the frat itself
Large amounts of money. There’s a reason it’s mostly rich kids that do it
All those 3” shorts, roofies, and coors lite doesn’t pay for itself!
Theoretically the entire idea is pooling money to do cool shit
The houses they live in/party in aren’t free
well i thought that was just traditional dorm fees that theyd have to pay for regardless.
Part of it’s a dorm fee for the people living in the house. The other part is the huge insurance policies and maintenance costs those houses have to have when you’ve got a bunch of 18-22 year olds destroying the place
The roofies don’t buy themselves either.
It was less than a hundred dollars a semester at the large state school I went to.
At Cornell where the latest anti frat push is happening with the Cornell 7/that whole rape case it can be multiple thousands of dollars in dues per semester
Kinda depends on the school and then the house. We paid $200 a term, basically a steal if you were drinking as heavily as most college kids do
Thats a huge benefit in the real world though. People in Fraternities tend to have a lot more connections in life (helps a lot with jobs or cool opportunities) and they tend to meet a lot of people will help them just because of the Fraternity they are in.
I hate Frats as much as the next person, but there is no denying there are big benefits to it.
Thats just the benefits of being a rich kid in general.
You don’t have to be rich to be in a frat lol. I actually saved money living on the house (where I also got my own room) compared to sharing a room in the dorms.
You get a great friend group but you’ve got to pay to be in it.
How would you like 200 friends just like that! slams table
I actually saved quite a bit of money joining my frat and living in the house. The dues (which included my own room and meals for 6 days a week) were cheaper than paying for the cheapest dorm at my school (which would have forced me to share a small room with someone else). So I got more freedom, got to live in a giant house with all my friends, and all the social benefits of being in a fraternity while also saving money compared to living the traditional in-dorm setup. Pretty sweet deal.
And no, we did not have to do any of the gay hazing you guys are all convinced everyone goes through and no one was accused of sexual deviancy to my knowledge. We also had a higher GPA average than the overall school average and regularly participated in or facilitated philanthropy events.
I know it’s cool for people that didn’t go through it to shit in the experience, but maybe consider that not everyone lived the experience you have built up in your heads.
…where you’ve already paid to have a moderately larger group of potential friends lol
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I’m dying. But that was exactly my stance in college. Hilarious
Yeah, every frat party I’ve been to from like ‘09-‘11 had super douchy vibes. The best parties were with the international students.
Boomers love hazing
Shaq for sure wanna be collecting his own poop to pour on people, so it tracks.
I motherfucking love Charles Barkley. EVERY clip I see of this dude talking about public issues I’m just like god damn what a real dude.
This is OP karma farming, reddit is going to love this. This isn’t Chuck speaking about Cornell considering this is an old clip.
Ohhhh that’s fair. Although lol I’m sure Chuck would have a similar response now, and if anything most of us already knew this about frat culture and it’s good to see Chuck hate on it before it became popular in a news cycle to do so.
wait until you hear him talk about basketball
“Knock it off. No they don’t.”
Of all the greek life groups on campus, only one of the business major houses actually did a canned food drive
Truth to power.
“fraternity”, eh.
After what happened in Cornell I don’t blame him
“Whats your grade point average?”
Chuck- “I was 20 ponts and 10 rebounds.”
Thats a wild statement sitting in front of an Omega Man but I guess lol
That’s part of why he’s saying it - to annoy Shaq.
See Cornell
I literally have never heard Chuck say something that isn’t 1000% truth.
The guy who is good friends with Karl Malone and defends him? What a good look
When did Chuck defend Malone?
Lol you might be getting your Malones confused
I love Chuck so damn much
Paying to get friends. Loser
Nah its paying to get connections to hiring directors in big companies for cushy jobs after graduating.
I knew someone in a fraternity who always had all the tests with the answers, and I knew a girl in a sorority who always had the test key, too.
“Are you the Keymaster?”
Pretty timely with this Cornell University news
I think that’s kind of the point with this post
Yeah probably - not sure how many people in the thread knew about it though.
Buying and sacrificing self esteem for friendships
Frats seem cool until you turn 21.
Throw them all in jail
Frat culture needs to die.
Clean ass dap
care to illuminate me?
7 frat guys gang-raped a girl they drugged and texted about it in a group chat of 54 guys (most likely more frat guys)
I think he’s talking about the Cornell rape thing. I just saw it myself not even 15 mins ago.
Group of Cornell University frat boys, drugged and raped a student for several hours and put it in their frat group chat saying ‘free pxxxy’
Cornell found out and some of the perpetrators were told to write essays as punishment.
Yes you read that correct. Poor girl traumatised for life, by some deranged rapists ‘fraternity’
jeezus! yeah im aware frats have done some crazy bad shit, but i thought OP was saying something happened to chuck specifically regarding a frat that I hadnt known about.
Damn, that send me down an uncomfortable rabbit hole.
Yeah so imagine what else these rich kids get away with because the institutions don’t want to punish some CEO’s kid.
If we don’t speak on it, what are we doing. It’s horrible, but needs bringing to the light. Women and girls deserve better
This goin triple platinum on Reddit
I love Chuck
Chuck spittin
Hot take from chuck not liking the drug trafficking, mass rape, sex trafficking organization that wants money from you. And as a bonus, when you are a minority, you can get white people to dehumanize you unless you join one geared to your minority group.
I got invited to join a frat and it really was the weirdest loser energy. Felt like a bunch of insecure guys who needed validation from other guys. I’m sure there are some that are ok but it just wasn’t for me
Pros and cons like all groups. There wasnt anything negative in mine but there was in others. I had a good time. I got me social, forced me to volunteer, do events out of my comfort zone and mandatory study hours really improved my grades
Wrong Chuck.
Only losers with no self-confidence and need of validation join fraternities. Plenty of losers skip them.
I mean, he would still be right in saying that only losers join fraternities? He didn’t say ALL losers join fraternities
Plenty of losers skip them.
It’s me
He not lyin.
Chuck is correct here, only losers pay for friends
i tried to join a D9 fraternity as a person of arab descent and i was clowned. most of the people from that fraternity didn’t accomplish anything and the one person i saw who became a physician had his parents pay for everything
True, imagine paying for friends so you can go to date rape parties
That Ernie/Shaq dap was clean af
Based
Every time a new scandal pops up everyone is left wondering why kids even join them in the first place…and it’s really not difficult to get why they exist and why people join them. College kids like partying and meeting members of the opposite sex, joining a frat or sorority gives you the easiest possible slam dunk of doing both consistently every weekend. You get swept up in that, make some great friends along the way, and in most instances have a great time in college.
Having said that, do they (mostly fraternities) promote an abhorrent culture? Yeah absolutely, there’s no question about that. I’m just trying to explain why kids want to join them.
lol seriously. Way too many losers in the comments trying to cope about not getting invited to parties
Thank god i’m not the only one seeing this, i joined one and it was great. I met plenty of awesome people and had a great time. Sure we did some light hazing but nothing insane and we took code violations very seriously. Always had sober people roaming parties to keep an eye on people to make sure everything stayed fun and didn’t go overboard. Sexual harassment especially was zero tolerance. We only had 1 guy in my 4 years that was creepy towards women. He got kicked out real quick.
“Make some great friends”
Alright man
I was in a fraternity in undergrad some 15 years ago now, I was a stupid kid back then and would’ve done a ton of things differently but hindsight is 20⁄20. Having said that, the friends I made then are still my friends today and made up my entire wedding party.
Weird time to be an apologist for frats
Not even being an apologist, I’m just trying to help explain what goes through someone’s mind at age 18
I remember my roommates joining them when I was in college and I was so confused…I was like “So you guys pay money just to get some friends??” They tried to pull the “It’s about connections”, but I was never convinced it was anything but idiotic.
Nah. You’re wrong and I wasn’t in a fraternity. Higher salary, more connections, more women in college and higher GPA statistically.
Isn’t the correlation more to do with existing wealth and status prior to joining?
Not necessarily, if you’re likable you can get a bid. And nobody’s telling you to join the frat filled with rich white people who don’t associate with other people
Frat boys aren’t smart enough to understand that.
Of course Redditors are gonna shit on frats lmao
A lot of people on here are clearly too young to have even gone to college, aren’t from the U.S., or never actually interacted with anyone from a frat.
Its a social club that you can be involved in as much or as little as you want. Also no one on here seems to understand the dues are for room and board plus social events, its honestly not even that expensive all things considered.
They think the dues go to the school or smt lmao. Even my nerdy stem club had dues to throw parties
Chuck is 100% right that losers join. But the ironic thing (or maybe not) about that is a lot of those losers end up having better career paths later in life mainly because of the social network they have access to just from joining the frat. They are still losers who otherwise wouldn’t get ahead in life without the nepotism experience through the personal connections they made to with frat buddies and their daddies.
? Huh . Smart people join them lol
Choosing the path of least resistance doesn’t make you a loser. There are no doubt many losers who join frats but the majority of them are just people who recognize making friends is hard and frats are an easy way to do it.
I didn’t join a frat. I joined a rugby team and it’s been an essential social network in my life that has opened up so many amazing opportunities.
Frats are cool if they aren’t full of degenerates that come up with some crazy hazing rituals
Can anyone actually confirm that Mike was a Que?
Saying that in front of Shaq the que is a choice lol
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Nothing but FACTS. 😆
Salute to Sir Charles