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Ope-Qaeda

😂 Glad I’m not the only one lmao

Jokic can finally rest knowing Jaden and TJ won’t just run directly at him every play

Crazy part is that we may have given them a run for their money in 2023 had McDaniels not punched a wall and Naz wasn’t injured.

Now they get to farm the bucks and Cavs

Thank god 😭

We are fine with beating them in the finals

Honestly we’ll probably meet them in the Finals. Nobody else plays Denver like we play Denver.

Dang that sucks missing all those bad defenders.

Who beat who on their way to winning a title?

NOLA and Memphis may be further east, but they are closer to all the Texas teams and OKC.

NOLA and Memphis may have arguments, but they’ll never feel as correct as the team from Minnesota playing more games against the teams from Chicago, Detroit, & Wisconsin. Even NOLA feels better with the NFC South analogues

Very reasonable take, I support it

If the Jazz every pull a Ballmer and need to get punished, Silver should give Jazz back to New Orleans. Utah Jazz is like having the Miami Steelers or the Pittsburg Dolphins

It’s 100% just my NFC South bias, but NOLA, Atlanta, Charlotte, and Orlando being grouped together feels as “correct” as the Midwest cities do.

You can take* theJazz name from my cold dead hands.

*edit, forgot the take. Average Utard edumacation at work!

But they have each other and Texas to make a tight division.

Wolves are on a random island

The closest West team to us is Denver

Yes but the Grizzlies have the 3 Texas teams, OKC, and New Orleans that are all closer to them than the closest Western conference team to Minnesota. Minnesota is on an island all by themselves, even Denver and OKC are crazy travel for them, meanwhile the Bucks, Bulls, Pacers, Pistons, and Cavs are all close to them.

Now look at the distance between the Wolves and the Blazers, and how far the Grizzlies would be from the Heat, and understand it’s about more than just pure longitude

It’s less about geography and more about proximity to the other conference teams. Minny’s closest Western team is OKC & they’ve got I think 5 Eastern teams in that same distance, Denver is the 2nd closest & it’s ~1000 miles away which is pretty much the same distance as Minny to Toronto

The Wolves have travelled farther than the Grizzlies and Pelicans over the last few years

They also have much better existing rivalries in other sports with Chicago, Wisconsin, and Detroit

The Wolves make more sense to move to the East than anybody

Yeah but they’re notably closer to their division lmao

It’s about travel, not finding a longitude line that neatly divides conferences.

yeah but obviously their travel to the 3 texas teams is much closer than minnesota going to portland.

its obvious that the travel time of minnesota is the clear choice here.

The Grizzlies and Pelicans are closer to other Western Conference teams than the Wolves.

They don’t travel anywhere near as far as the Wolves do for division

Yeah, but those 2 have Texas. The travel between their division opponents, who they play the most games against, is a pretty light travel schedule.

I’ve got money on Memphis moving to Nashville too. I think both Minny and Grizz would move east

Seriously needs to happen.

Wonder who the expansion teams coming in would be that would allow them to move east?

If announced an nbanorthmemewar would be the fastest I’ve ever hit subscribe to a subreddit. Need offseason nfl content to keep me going

Sorry, I’m gonna need a red circle placed on the sub to help me figure it out.

Really? I assumed both expansion teams would be Western Conference Teams(Seattle and Vegas) and the Wolves and Grizz would be Eastern Conference teams. Seems the easiest path.

It’s mainly bad for the playoffs, IMO. With expansion, you’ll be playing 62 of 82 games regardless of conference — at least I am assuming they will stick with everyone getting a home-and-away with everyone else.

That only leaves 10 regular season away games that are conference-specific. It’s not a whole lot.

But if you are in the playoffs, suddenly all your games are in the conference, and those are the most important games of the year. Weeknight playoff games tipping off at 10pm local is an awful situation.

Not saying that isn’t total bullshit, cause it is, but I Honestly thought that’d be a longer drive. That’s basically Philly to Nashville

Not only that, but all those cities are in the same direction from Minneapolis and close to each other.

Every Google Maps directions query between Minneapolis and central division cities east of Chicago - so Detroit, Indianapolis, and Cleveland - yields at least one route suggestion that goes through both Milwaukee and Chicago. A bus leaving Minneapolis could hit 60% of the central division in 10 hours, and still be pretty close to the two remaining cities

I fully understand that the Timberwolves would be hopping on planes rather than coach busses, but the entire central division is all right there. A little south and a little east. Flights of trivial distance.

Damn so you’re the reason people still call us the Bobcats

Good map. It shows that Memphis and (probably) New Orleans should ALSO be in the East. However, of the three teams (Minnesota, Memphis, and New Orleans), Minnesota has the best argument for moving conferences. New Orleans and Memphis are at least close to each other and relatively close to the Texas teams and OKC. Minnesota is no where near any other Western teams.

Ok, so I know the NFL has some crazy geographic divisions like the NFC East and AFC South, but only one team in the Northwest division is in the Northwest.

Division maps just need to be redone period

If we’re talking NW, it’ll probably be Blazers, Sonics (when they get here), Warriors, and Kings. From there it gets weird if you wanna add a 5th

The furthest team from Memphis is San Antonio at 730 miles. The closest to Minneapolis is Denver at 915 miles away, and Portland is 1,730 miles away.

But they are both closer to Houston, San Antonio and OKC.

That was a travesty… every Miami fan hates the Jets, Patriots and Bills.

And I promise you ever Heat fans think Hawks, Magic and Hornets are little bro not worth thinking about (other than the legend Purple Shirt Guy) and the real enemy is Celtics or Knicks (depending on how old you are).

I think it ought to be two divisions of 8 per conference rather than making both four divisions of 4

I think the NBA is going to break in to 2 divisions per conference like the NHL rather than 4 like the NFL, makes for better groupings than having to do something weird like a PHI/WAS/CLE/DET division

NHL is weird because they only have two divisions per conference, so Minnesota is grouped with Chicago, Dallas, Colorado, St. Louis, Nashville, Winnipeg, and Utah. They could probably do with rearranging there too.

Not sure if you’re saying the name “Midwest” in general is bad to describe that region. The historical context is that back in early America, that actually was the Midwest of the entire nation.

It would just be called “Central”, which is what that East division is called now. But East Midwest has a nice ring to it lol.

Yes, but that’s not what I said – it has less to do with the geography of Memphis and more to do with Minnesota’s travel. They’re not near any conference rival. Memphis has several near it – NoLA and all the Texas teams.

I was just thinking the same. Cavs and Pacers would be kicked out.

Curious which two teams would complete our division…

I’m editing this to say that I would hope Detroit comes with us (lean into the state rivalry) - but I have a feeling the northern most teams will be grouped together.

Edit 2:

These would be my picks:

• Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana in “Midwest”.

• Knicks, Nets, Sixers, Wizards in “East”.

• Raptors, Cavs, Pistons, Boston in “North”.

• Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte is “Southeast”.

Celtics might prefer being the the East but that’d be a lot of big markets concentrated together.

Guardians and Royals are consequences of an oddball total of 30 teams, the same way the buccaneers played in the NFC Central. I’d trade them both for the Brewers, if It was me making the divisions.

Yeah, the NHL Central division is a little weird but at least has other teams along the Mississipi River.

The central division is mostly fine until the playoffs happen and then the NHL decides central means 10pm start times.

That may have been true 4 years ago but I doubt that’s true any longer. We’re already past peak Vegas.

Makes no sense to me. Seattle has an arena ready to go. Idk why they want Vegas so bad

here for you fam

If we’re sending them to another country, Silver might try putting them in Spain lol.

In all seriousness though, with Seattle coming back, the PNW will have 2 teams again (assuming El Cheepo doesn’t move out of Portland), which feels right for the market, 3 teams there was too many. Baseball fans in Vancouver already travel to Seattle for either the Mariners or the Blue Jays when they come to play the Mariners. I know there’s a rivalry between the cities in hockey now but for basketball I worry it would over saturate the market again.

Now, if the Blazers are relocating, Vancouver could make sense for them. They shouldn’t be relocating but dumb dumb keeps threatening it. That would still keep the market at 2 teams which sounds a bit more sustainable, but Portland and Seattle is definitely preferable to Portland and Vancouver.

Grizzlies deserve to come back

Three year playoff drought better dismantle the team 🙄

It would be so great to have a true Pacific Northwest trio of Seattle, Portland and Vancouver again.

nah they just need to reset and rebrand imo. i still don’t know why the hell the new orleans team is called the pelicans and not the ‘voodoo’ or something

Sorry Bulls fans. A casualty of multitasking.

NOLA should stay in the West because it’s unclear if the team is or should even stay in NOLA.

Deeper maybe, but having both the Thunder and Spurs in the same conference means making a run in the West is significantly harder than it would be compared to the East.

Are you sure about that?

No. Just no.

I’m going to have to disagree with you on that one. I don’t think any team in the East is as good as San Antonio, OKC or Denver.

The east on the whole definitely got better though. But I don’t think any of the best teams on paper in the east look better than the aforementioned squads, assuming good health for everyone. Philly definitely looks amazing on paper, but it’s Embiid.

Sure thing buddy

That was another thought, splitting them up. That makes a lot of sense.

Hell no, if you’re splitting both NY teams, might as well split both LA teams as well

Yeah Washington or Toronto instead of Brooklyn for sure

I kinda forget Torontos in our division honestly

Pure geography, you’re right but with MN, MIL, CHI, and DET they mirror the already existing NFL divisional rivalries. DET and IND are not really that much further either way. Also, MN, DET, and Chicago are in the same MLB division.

The league will never separate Sixers Knicks and Celts.

Classic mid-Atlantic team, in Indiana?

Nah, keep NYC, Boston, and Philly together

New Orleans is Central time zone the rest are East so it would still be weird

I feel like it should be two divisions each. 4 games within the division (28). 2 games against the other conference (32). That’s 60. Then 22 games against the other 8 team division - 2 games each (16) plus 4 additional games against the other division. Thats 80. The 1 game each (2) against the team that finished in the same place as you the previous season in the other conference’s divisions. Or reduce the season to 76 games and eliminate the last 6 i created.

California won’t be split

Its humourous to me that the midWEST is in the east in this setup