He definitely did a deep dive into this to uncover everything he could, but even on the surface of it all it’s so obviously a scam. It’s something that your mom tells you she signed up for and you google it and immediately know it’s a predatory scam in two minutes, these celebs should be ashamed for even being associated with this in the first place.

I feel like his run is just showing you how many of these types of stories are out there that no one is bothering to investigate. He finds snakes under every rock he turns because no one else is turning rocks like these.

More like Pablo Toro

We used to have this with basically every major newspaper but that’s dead now sadly

As someone who’s spent thousands of hours investigating and researching nonprofits and other organizations and individuals, the truth is we’ve absolutely devastated all the traditional investigative reporting outlets, including every legitimate newspaper in the country so nearly nobody looks into anything anymore.

Also basically nobody does due diligence, mostly because nobody wants to because ignorance is bliss and people have a hear no evil, see no evil attitude when it suits their pocketbook.

The amount of fraud and bullshit going on with organizations throughout the country is astounding.

From what I’ve seen, probably the majority of marketable celebrities have ties to some kind of evil sketchy organization.

Every time I’ve randomly looked into a charitable organization for example the past few years, I’ve found at best family working exaggerated or no-show jobs, and at worse organizations responsible for mutations of dead puppies, outbreaks of disease among animals and humans, and eight figures in fraud. And in-between things like the supposed largest organization supposedly giving wigs to sick kids in fact being a massive scam.

Nobody looks into these organizations because the truth is most news outlets don’t even do any due diligence when they do puff pieces on them and promote them. And then when bad behavior is shown to be happening in these organizations, news outlets don’t report on it because it makes them look bad, having just promoted these organizations.

And again, the major investigative outlets like 60 minutes, the Baltimore sun, Washington Post, LA Times, etc… are all now owned by right wing billionaires up to no good.

And one of the only remaining ones, the New York Times has private equity so far up their ass they got dudes in $10,000 suits coming out their mouth. To say nothing of other people who’ve bailed them out like Mexican billionaire, who’s totally not involved with the cartels, Carlos Slim.

It will never end either. His profile became so high with the NBA punishment on the Clippers. He has probably received more leads on new stories than he can handle

99% of sports “journalists” are complete hacks who just glaze enough people to get access, no actual reporting, verifying, or investigating.

Come check out /r/PabloTorreFindsOut if you want to have deeper discussions about any episode. User base is understandably growing fast, but has stayed really interested in seeing other takes on each big episode/series.

He’s done three pieces on magic in the last year. Two were not good to him, and the other was on how awesome Ronny Seikaly was. This is two pieces on him in a month, like give the guy a rest between rounds, Pablo!

Pablo Torre’s got the whole league checking its guest speaker contracts like teams checking the injury report.

Pablo Torre was a PROBLEM

‘90s

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Rightfully so. He took on Steve Ballmer and won

You fuck around and Pablo finds out

Pablo Torre… So hot right now 🥵

Bro getting in front of this shit before Pablo exposes him. As long as the checks are good and there’s no liability for them, these people don’t care.

Fuck around Pablo will find out

Not if you are not a piece of shit.

The Everybody Loves Raymond spinoff

In chess there is the known ‘Torre Attack’

So everybody fears it, even in real life. :)

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I stopped recording baseball games without the express written consent of the MLB just in case Pablo decided to go after me

You’ve been hit by

You’ve been CC’ed

By the Pablo Torre

It seems pretty self-evident that any Christian organization doing finance seminars would be a scam run by scam artists. Jesus kinda famously had a problem with people who mixed the church with business.

This is not a new scam and its not always faith based.  I went to an event like this almost 20 years ago and it included some big time athletes, politicians and a couple Tony Robbins types and they get you all amped up and provide a lot of inspirational stories and talk about the challenges they’ve overcome

After all the well known people are done, some fucking guy named Dave with a \(300 haircut and \)50 khakis walks out and starts giving the full Alec Baldwin from Glengarry Glen Ross while showing off a PowerPoint highlighting this “lifechanging” investment software that makes buying and selling stocks a breeze.

They really push people on this miracle software that will allow you to work from home and you can get in today at the low price of \(80, discounted off the regular price of \)750 and fucking Dave just keeps the hard sell going, repeatedly hammering on how EASY it will be and how much you can stand to earn just by following the arrow system.

Eventually fucking Dave goes into his close and more or less tells everyone who isnt buying then and there to go fuck off.  The people who decided that they wanted to get in at the \(80 price, well, they all had to go down to meet with fucking Dave and his team who really went to work on them and suddenly that \)80 intro price is being supplemented with \(5,000 to \)30,000 of “coaching and mentorship services” and different levels of access and of course there’s helpful financing people that pop up and can get you setup with straight up “fuck you” credit cards and lines with 29.9% APR but dont worry about the interest because you’ll be making so much money that paying everything off will be a breeze.

The whole thing is incredibly predatory and there’s company after company doing it and you have all these well known athletes and celebrities that are all too happy to collect $50-300k in speaking fees for half an hour just to get the crowd all amped up so later a guy like Dave can go to to work on them.  I am glad that someome is shining a light on this because this scummy bullshit has been going on for way too long and these assholes specialize in preying on vulnerable people.

Fuck Dave and fuck every company pushing this bullshit.

Yeah. That’s the red flag. He, and every other “innocent” speaker never asked how the program worked? They just took a paycheck, preached about faith, gave a sales pitch, and then turned the other cheek?

I think Jesus might hate a lot of people who claim to love him.

I know it’s a cult and everything but how can people not see that having to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get “blessed” by God doesn’t sound very Christiany

I don’t hate Christianity like many on Reddit do.

But I do hate all the morons (usually in our country) that blatantly practice the exact opposite of what Jesus taught, and then make their entire personality be super “Christian”.

Prosperity gospel is the most ironic thing and dumb thing ever. Evangelicals have been such a detriment to our society it’s sad

All I know is that God looked the other way while multiple genocides were happening but was laser focused on helping Mazulla to his 2024 championship run.

Im shocked that the “faith based” organization that combines Christianity and “wealth building” is a scam

Evangelical fundamental Christians have ruined America, dog. How anyone is surprised at any scam behavior by a faith organization is just willfully ignorant.

Here’s a secret: all religions are just moneymaking scheme(and also a tool to control people) , it’s nothing surprising.

It’s that heretical “prosperity gospel” that heretic American evangelists are promoting.

Dave Ramsey has been doing this for a couple decades now and his advice basically boils down to “you’re financially illiterate and you shouldn’t leverage debt for anything because you’ll screw it up since you can’t do math. Pay cash for everything, mortgages and car loans are tricks for you to bankrupt yourself.”

To be fair, he’s right that most people can’t do math. His financial advice is very narrow, but it does help some people who are making poor decisions. His advice is terrible for 75-85% of people. I think the main difference is that Ramsey isn’t taking $50k from vulnerable, financially illiterate people. But you’re right, a lot of scams use faith/religion as a cover to bring marks into the fold.

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he has done a bit of it.

Everyone already knows everything about the Epstein files. The issues isn’t the information isn’t available. The issue is that the people in power don’t want to put themselves in jail.

He already has. Multiple episodes.

That’s how their next crypto scam is gonna be called

Bro is barely 40. This might not even be close to his peak.

Dear Sweet Baby Jesus, please protect and nurture Pablo Torre so he might continue to shine on the world of journalism.

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Not denying that he should have known, because even a little bit of research digs up a bunch about this thing. However, none of the headliners are there for very long at these events. They show up an hour before, get put in a nice green room, get taken to the stage by a handler, give their 15 minute speech, and go home. They probably know about the \(100 "course", but they aren't involved in the really big part of the scam which happens at that \)100 course that immediately becomes a \(500-5000 course, and then a \)25,000 course paid on a high interest rate credit card.

Tim Tebow is basically their mascot

they mention him in the 3rd paragraph of the body

Just could have never guessed he’d be a shitty person hiding behind “religion.”

Wish there had be any possible clue.

Tim fraudbow?

Anyone selling something to “help” you make money is a scam

I hate when a company uses dog whislte advertising. Veteran owned, Christian owned, etc. Call me an asshole, but none of that matters. I just want to know if you are qualified to do the task I am hiring you to do.

Knowing how bad it is here in NZ it must be insane in the US.

Imagine the NBA had a specific exemption for the scenario that your front office believes they are “chosen” and destined to win, and completely exempt from the luxury tax, player movement reporting, and financial audits. And that this got normalized. Yup there’s the United States and religious preferential treatment for you.

I think Life Surge files as a for-profit entity.

Won’t that just hurt the legit churches? Then you’re left with all these scammy churches.

Thoughts and prayers, Gods got this

LOL, easiest way to avoid accountability.

“I contributed to the scam, but I hope the victims are able to recover with the guidance of god.”

- guys

Evangelicals. Catholic aren’t that much better tbh but evangelical Christianity is such a plague man

Pulitzer Pablo

He is just getting started. He has probably received so many new leads since the NBA punishment on the Clippers dropped

That’s a pretty standard speaking engagement fee for someone of his level of fame and success. Joey Chestnut gets like 15k for an appearance and he can’t have wisdom to impart

Religion is one giant scam. You think people can see this micro scams imbedded in it? History tells us no.

Look at who your country voted to be President and you will realize just how gullible, ignorant and self righteous Americans are.

They are also already expected to “donate” a portion of their income every month. The perfect marks, unfortunately for them.

Well he had the journalist that actually did all the legwork on his podcast…

Joe’s a creep?

Keep in mind he is likely dumb as shit about things outside of basketball

hes like insanely catholic iirc

Why should hehe did it in good faith.