LilTurnippman | Clippers

76 | 9 hours ago

Thank God we’re gonna get something back then

drjisftw | Pacers

79 | 9 hours ago

Enjoy a top-45 protected second round pick lmao

LilTurnippman | Clippers

8 | 8 hours ago

Honestly, we really don’t care. we got Wagler and that was what mattered

AntiAntiDentite7

8 | 8 hours ago

Watch them send Trey Murphy lol

ShakethatYam | Clippers

18 | 8 hours ago

Or the Joe Dumars special. Unprotected 2027 draft pick.

Pikminious_Thrious | Lakers

0 | 8 hours ago

Nah they’ll send Derik Queen back in the trade

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

0 | 4 hours ago

Plot twist: it’s Zion

Nasa3000xx

6 | 9 hours ago

Why would they?
Pelicans can just back out as well

ShakethatYam | Clippers

23 | 9 hours ago

Because getting Mathurin for 8mil is a steal.

LilTurnippman | Clippers

14 | 9 hours ago

Ok if they back out we just keep him?? Lmao

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

5 | 9 hours ago

Clippers don’t want him

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

7 | 8 hours ago

Seems like they do if the price is right. If they didn’t want him at all, they wouldn’t have extended the qualifying offer.

Domainsetter

-1 | 8 hours ago

Doing this before a possible Kawhi ruling is interesting.

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

6 | 8 hours ago

I don’t think the potential Kawhi ruling affects Mathurin’s status with the Clippers all that much.

Krillin113 | 76ers

1 | 5 hours ago

Why would it? Either he gets traded, or he gets suspended. He’s not there anyway. If the clippers get trade banned for 3 years or some shit (punishment that has happened in European football, would be interesting in the nba) that doesn’t change his position at all

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

1 | 4 hours ago

How does the Kawhi thing matter for Mathurin? He’s either suspended or traded or both, and Ingram and Dick shouldn’t be the reasons why they shouldn’t try and keep him if they want him despite them playing at his positions.

Unfair-Specific7225

-2 | 8 hours ago

Not necessarily. Most people, them included, probably thought Mathurin would have a bigger market this offseason

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

3 | 8 hours ago

Could you explain your reasoning? Not sure how expecting a bigger market would mean they didn’t want him at all despite extending a qualifying offer. The Clippers didn’t need to extend a qualifying offer. They could’ve just let him become an unrestricted free agent.

Unfair-Specific7225

-2 | 8 hours ago

Sure, there’s not many 6’5”+ SG’s in the league who at the age of ²³⁄₂₄ can consistently create offense/their own shot. He has his flaws, and maybe doesn’t fit in the Clippers plans especially after drafting Wagler. Fine.

But compare him to Norman Powell or RJ Barrett at the same age and most people probably go Mathurin. And he’s being paid considerably less than those guys were after their rookie deals were up.

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

3 | 7 hours ago

I said that the Clippers probably want him if he’s paid $8.8m.

You said that the Clippers didn’t necessarily want him even at $8.8m.

I don’t understand how your subsequent comments are related to that.

Unfair-Specific7225

0 | 7 hours ago

Yet he’s getting less than the qualifying offer and they are letting him go. So that tells me they thought there would be a market for him and they were looking for a S&T

LilTurnippman | Clippers

1 | 9 hours ago

Who cares if we want him or not, we want assets back

Spierre3

8 | 9 hours ago

Only way yall get assets back (please correct me if I’m wrong) is if it’s a sign and trade and by all accounts it’s not a sign and trade since it’s a two year deal with a player option whereas sign and trade require a 3 year deal at least

ShakethatYam | Clippers

1 | 8 hours ago

You just make the second and third year non-guaranteed.

ToplessBartoloColon

3 | 7 hours ago

why would the player agree to this then

ShakethatYam | Clippers

1 | 7 hours ago

Well, his only other option is the same thing with the Clippers.

ToplessBartoloColon

1 | 3 hours ago

no, his other option is to just take the QO and have no extra non-guaranteed years after year 1

Nasa3000xx

3 | 8 hours ago

And you make him unhappy lol
You really think he’s gonna play to his full potential?

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

1 | 8 hours ago

You’re getting maybe a 2nd and a cheaper player you can then waive.

Actually never mind lol S&T’s gotta be 3 year deals

bballin773

1 | 8 hours ago

Clippers are going to probably get a second back. The haul in sign and trades is not big usually for lower-level players.

Beleiverofhumanity

1 | 7 hours ago

Yea was wondering if they coudnt even squueze a 2nd at least

Aggrokid

63 | 9 hours ago

Why not give Mathurin an offer sheet and wait for Clippers to decline, they don’t seem to want him anyways.

donniedarko4141 | Knicks

36 | 9 hours ago

Everything I’ve ever seen on this subreddit suggests an offer sheet must be at least three years. I doubt Mathurin wanted to be locked in two years at that salary

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

10 | 8 hours ago

I think the offer sheet can be 2 years since the Clippers qualifying offer doesn’t seem to have been the most allowed by the cba. However, it has to be 2 guaranteed years and can’t be a 1+1 like the reported agreement between Mathurin and the Pels.

Had the Clippers extended the maximum qualifying offer allowed, the offer sheet would’ve needed to be at least 3 years.

not-a-potato-head | Hawks

11 | 8 hours ago

S+Ts need to be at least 3 years, not offer sheets. Those only need to be 2 seasons

CMYGQZ | Grizzlies

3 | 5 hours ago

but the 2 is no option years, so 2+1 is fine, 1+1, the one he agreed to, is not.

ShakethatYam | Clippers

13 | 9 hours ago

The supposed contract is a 2 year deal with a player option at the same price as his QO. Clippers might match that since it’s basically the same thing they are already offering him.

Domainsetter

7 | 9 hours ago

Guessing Mathurin didn’t want to wait until the Kawhi stuff is resolved? They had the cap to match this if the trade went through iirc?

ShakethatYam | Clippers

4 | 9 hours ago

Yeah, his cap hold is over 3x that.

Domainsetter

3 | 9 hours ago

Makes sense.

Pretty_Waltz5965

1 | 5 hours ago

The Pels can’t trade for him for a calendar year if that happens and LA matches what would be a small contract number.

eternali17 | Clippers

32 | 9 hours ago

8 million is a fucking heist for Mathurin, warts and all. They better get something back.

LilTurnippman | Clippers

-5 | 9 hours ago

We are

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

25 | 9 hours ago

Appreciate it when teams let players they don’t want go to other teams in restricted free agency without a standoff.

EthicalBballFan | Heat

3 | 7 hours ago

Mavs a real one with the Klay buyout.

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

1 | 6 hours ago

They could have easily waited til the trade deadline/Buyout market but instead they did Klay a solid and let him get a full training camp + season with his new team.

Tgumpsta | Kings

4 | 6 hours ago

They get more money back this way. They’re doing right by Klay but it’s not purely out of goodwill

AnotherStatsGuy | Pelicans

17 | 9 hours ago

Hawkins and a second it is.

heirofsorrows | Clippers

6 | 9 hours ago

I’ll take it

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

3 | 4 hours ago

Collecting 2023 projected shooters who ended up being mid. Just would need to scoop Jett Howard now to complete the trifecta

heirofsorrows | Clippers

1 | 3 hours ago

I just want the second

Pretty_Waltz5965

-4 | 5 hours ago

Missi and a second

LaLaLaPig | Raptors

8 | 8 hours ago

Sign-and-trade deals have to be for a 3+ year (non-option) contract. So either LAC will rescind the QO or this NOP deal is wrong.

js_harvey | Knicks

6 | 7 hours ago

Gary Trent Jr signed for 4x the total and 2x the aav of Mathurin

zggystardust71 | Clippers

6 | 6 hours ago

I like Mathurin when we first picked him up. But after watching him a bit it felt like he put up empty points that didn’t impact the game. His defense was adequate.

I think the combo of DJJ, Dunn and now Strus plus the rookie guard make him expendable.

Guilty-Influence-890 | Clippers

2 | 9 hours ago

Welcome to LA, Zion!

ShowdownValue

1 | 8 hours ago

Clips went from trying to get both mathurin and Watson to getting neither

AntiAntiDentite7

2 | 8 hours ago

And literally nothing of value was lost lol. Clippers ended up with Max Strus whose probably better than both

ShowdownValue

-2 | 8 hours ago

Imagine posting this on r/laclippers a month ago

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

2 | 8 hours ago

That sub is full of idiots.

AntiAntiDentite7

0 | 8 hours ago

Imagine frequenting the clippers sub as a non-clipper fan. Moreover, plenty of us there were not super interested in either Watson or Mathurin. I would have taken Strus over both the whole time.

ShowdownValue

0 | 8 hours ago

That’s impressively well timed cope.

Had you posted “forget mathurin and Watson, let’s get strus instead!” a month ago, you would have got destroyed on that sub Reddit 😂

Many wanted Watson. Many also wanted both.

AntiAntiDentite7

2 | 8 hours ago

Are you really so terminally online that you can’t understand the difference between an individual’s opinion and the general thoughts of a subreddit? What are you even trying to argue here? That you lurk around subreddits to gather useless information for pointless internet arguments with strangers? Are you intentionally trying to paint yourself as pathetic as possible?

ShowdownValue

0 | 4 hours ago

Whoa. Didn’t think that would upset you so much!

Anyways it’s just funny watching Clipper fans do a 180 from “mathurin and Watson!” To “rather have strus” when 0 clipper fans would have said this a month ago.

AntiAntiDentite7

1 | 2 hours ago

Oh, so this is where you pretend to know every clipper fan? Please read what you’re typing before you comment so you can hopefully avoid coming off like a 14 year old edgelord. You’re everything that sucks about the internet.

Ok-Tree4365

2 | 6 hours ago

It’s funny because every other team got every single player they wanted!

ShowdownValue

1 | 4 hours ago

Except the clippers

JoshGreenTruther | NBA

0 | 9 hours ago

Why would the pelicans do this? Black hole inefficient guard

drjisftw | Pacers

21 | 8 hours ago

He’s still an upgrade over Poole and Hawkins.

JoshGreenTruther | NBA

4 | 8 hours ago

The upgrade is moving on from players of that archetype not rebuying back into them

X-Filer | Pelicans

11 | 9 hours ago

Do you think there has ever been logic with any pelicans moves?

twovles31

5 | 9 hours ago

Has deeper playoff experience than a lot of players his age.

Orion1014 | 76ers

9 | 9 hours ago

That would require the Pelicans make the playoffs.

Cheeseish | NOP

6 | 9 hours ago

Idk why, but the deal is good.

If I were a smarter version of Joe Dumars, I would sign him and try to get the value of guys up to trade mid season for assets.

MrBigWaffles | Lakers

5 | 9 hours ago

Flip him to a contender that needs a sixth man at the deadline.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

4 | 9 hours ago

Some players on this sub are so overhated for no reason lol

JoshGreenTruther | NBA

1 | 9 hours ago

Am I wrong?

drjisftw | Pacers

0 | 8 hours ago

Volume scoring on mediocre TS isn’t a valuable skill in today’s league.

The Blazers have a similar archetype in Shaedon Sharpe and gave him a bad contract lol.

Holualoabraddah

3 | 8 hours ago

Not that I need to remind a Pacers fan, but He was a key piece on a team that was VERY close to a Championship… I genuinely haven’t watched him play since that finals, did his game change?

drjisftw | Pacers

0 | 8 hours ago

Saying he was a key piece is open to interpretation. He averaged 11PPG in the playoffs.

His archetype just isn’t valuable in today’s league. We got Oubre for a similar cost and Oubre can fit into a scheme better.

Holualoabraddah

3 | 7 hours ago

As Warriors fan, I can say Oubre definitely did not fit into our scheme.

JoshGreenTruther | NBA

1 | 8 hours ago

That’s what I’m saying these guys are getting passed around like blunts I’m supposed to believe they’re overhated on this sub lol

onefootback | Raptors

1 | 9 hours ago

he’s such a pelicans player it just makes sense

Ok-Tree4365

3 | 8 hours ago

Young, dynamic scorer who gets to the line all the time. Had a toe injury last year that tanked his efficiency. Has plenty of problem areas, but there’s a lot of room for growth, and the competitiveness is there.

Asleep_Animator8891 | Pelicans

2 | 8 hours ago

He’s better than the other two of the same type we have. See Jordan Hawkins and Jordan Poole.

FERFreak731 | Jazz

-6 | 9 hours ago

Maybe Jordan Hawkins or Bey in return?

KorgG29 | Bucks

20 | 9 hours ago

Saddiq Bey is twice as good as Bennedict Mathurin

Jimmy0034 | Clippers

5 | 9 hours ago

We have 3000 guards in this roster

FERFreak731 | Jazz

3 | 9 hours ago

You would’ve had 3,001 guards on your roster had Mathurin remained with the Clippers

X-Filer | Pelicans

5 | 9 hours ago

Not bey, Hawkins yeah

Jacked-and-hung

-5 | 9 hours ago

Aspiration will figure it out

DrinkCorrect7655 | Pistons

-9 | 9 hours ago

This league is a joke.

The free agency rules are made up and the guys reporting on it are disingenuous about how they communicate.

Purple-List1577 | Timberwolves

4 | 9 hours ago

How

sammymate999 | Rockets

4 | 9 hours ago

Because of this lol?

DrinkCorrect7655 | Pistons

-2 | 9 hours ago

nah there’s a lot more

cnrgmbl

5 | 9 hours ago

Gotta sort out your Duren problem first

[Fischer] Being told the Clippers haven’t yet withdrawn their qualifying offer to Bennedict Mathurin, but Los Angeles will indeed work with Mathurin and New Orleans to get him to the Pelicans. This deal still has some pieces to sift through.