[Charania] “That letter included my name in it, which I do find interesting. I do have to make it clear, I fully stand by my reporting. What I reported was that there was a majority vote”
this is true, here is what Shams tweeted
The Buss family trust – composed of siblings Jeanie, Jim, Johnny, Janie, Joey and Jesse – received majority votes to allow trustees to execute the sale. It required four of six votes to enact the tag-along provision of Mark Walter’s sale to Kushner and Iger, which valued the Lakers at $12.5 billion.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1vr2b7g/charania_breaking_the_buss_family_has_decided_to/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Exactly and by all accounts everyone but Jeanie voted for it
a judge will have to make a ruling on this. does the tag along clause apply to the 2017 ruling that made Jeanie the fiduciary? who TF knows
Bron knows
He knew. Bailed before the drama. Le4dchess
W for LeBron but L for us. Imagine the drama and content in a world where Trumps nephew owned LeBron’s team.
Bailed and came to Josh “in the Epstein files” Harris’s team. I’m happy to have Bron, but stilll fuck Josh Harris
Is there a single nba owner who isn’t corrupt and/or evil?
Nice parenting
Bo knows
LeGal Expert
Bron to Bronny: “they expect one of us in the wreckage son”
Why wouldn’t it apply? You’re right that it will likely have to be ruled on, but just based on the excerpt from the letter it seems pretty cut and dry to me in Jeanie’s favor.
the Co-trustees of the trust are hereby instructed to take all actions reasonably available to them… to ensure Jeanie Buss is elected as the controlling owner of the Lakers on an annual basis during Jeanie Buss’s lifetime
They need 15% for her to remain controlling owner, so voting to sell all of their shares as part of a tag along sale expressly does not ensure that she can keep control
I don’t think that is clear at all. I’m not a lawyer but seems like “Reasonably” is deliberate to ensure there’s wiggle room.
It’s not clear, but there certainly is a case to be made.
“Reasonably” is doing a lot of work in that clause. A lot of case law around what things like “reasonable efforts” v “best efforts” mean (e.g. “reasonable efforts” has in many instances been ruled to not include taking actions that are materially adverse to that person’s interests).
Also interested in what “controlling owner” means - presumably it means the “governor” of the team, because Jeanie is obviously no longer majority owner of the Lakers after sale to Walters. But she remains governor only because of Walter’s agreement. Kushner and Iger could presumably remove her as the governor, in which case Jeanie would have no case here anyway (there would be no reasonable actions the co-trustees can take in that case, since they are not the ones with the ultimate deciding power here). Reported here as well - Report: New Lakers owners could remove Jeanie Buss as governor - Yahoo Sports
It’ll be interesting. Line the pockets of those lawyers!
People getting mad at Shams is like getting mad at a congressional reporter for reporting that the Senate passed a bill because he didn’t also report that one senator thinks the bill is unconstitutional.
exactly shows how uneducated these people are
my nephews are trying their best, Jagmeet
I’m trying, Jennifer
The lawyer writing that release working for Jeanie knows the situation and that Shams stated “received majority votes” and didn’t report ubiquitous votes. That’s not what “falsely” refers to.
They dispute the legal assumptions that the vote is valid (that the majority vote that happened “allow[s] trustees to execute the sale” because of provisions of other legally binding agreements of the trust).
It’s sort of like when a spokesperson for the Kennedy Center board of trustees (all appointed by Trump, except the ex officio board members) announced in December 2025 “The Kennedy Center Board of Trustees voted unanimously today to name the institution The Donald J. Trump and The John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts”. That’s almost factual, minus the unanimous part as there were ex officio (by virtue of office) members of the board who wanted to object but were muted. However, reporting it without bringing up the then open legal questions is a bit simplistic (e.g., Congress created the institution by law to honor JFK and federal law requires it to be a living memorial to just JFK; and Congress has not amended this law).
Again, I’m not saying that Jeannie’s legal argument will hold up or not, I’m just saying that’s what the dispute is. We won’t know what is true / false, until a court with access to the verbiage of the trust/agreements (and relevant case law) can make a decision.
Shams’ reporting remains accurate, regardless of the legitimacy of the vote, which will be determined by a court. He simply reported that a vote took place. News, by its nature, exists on shifting tides.
Jeanie’s lawyer simply took a shot at Shams’ reporting in a drive-by that primarily targeted her two brothers.
Cmon now, clearly Shams has a pretty big bias here. People don’t like him, me included, because he doesn’t do reporting, he does anonymous broadcasts for the powerful
Yes and no. Shams is a mouthpiece but is paid disproportionally compared to what he actually does. Why do you think he is paid so much? Because he isnt just a reporter. He helps push the agenda.
No, he’s paid a lot because he has a massive audience and brings attention and clicks to the brand. Same with SAS. Sam with Pat Mcafee. It’s that simple
Yeah…exactly homie haha. Those are one in the same. He sold that influence to the highest bidder.
you could replace shams with a different klutch sock puppet tmrw and no one would notice the difference. Idk why you’re getting downvoted
Sorry, we can’t let measly facts get in the way of the Shams hate train. We don’t do that here!
Never mind that Jeanie’s lawyer is doing his own PR spin by attacking Shams’s reporting.
It’s now going to be litigated in court which takes precedence: the “tag along” provision (meaning that 4⁄6 sibling votes is sufficient to sell); or the 2017 court ruling saying that all 3 co-trustees must unanimously agree to sell (Jeanie, Janie, and Joey).
But what Shams reported was correct: the majority of the siblings did vote to sell; as 5⁄6 said “yes” and only Jeanie said no.
What document is this tag along provision from? It appears that provision is from the sales contract entered into when the Buss’s sold their majority stake to Mark Walter 14 months ago. If that’s true, and Jeannie signed it, she might be in trouble.
Yes, the tag-along provision is from the sale to Mark Walter in June 2025. The courts will now have to decide whether that takes precedence, or the 2017 court ruling.
Someone posted in the Lakers subreddit on this and listed + linked like three different probate law rulings as references to precedent rulings that suggest Jeanie is fighting a significant uphill battle here and is likely to lose.
I said this in another post, but Jeanie’s response through her lawyer was basically her just trying to get a jab in to the people who rug pulled her. She thought she was dropping some “gotcha” information by basically saying Shams’ sources were her brothers. Nobody is shocked by this information, she just comes across as an angry sibling who is in a family dispute.
Imagine being so rich, so well off, so privileged, this is what you spend your time doing
received majority votes to allow trustees to execute the sale.
Except this is the part being contested. Jeanie’s lawyer is saying that a majority vote doesn’t allow the trustees to execute the sale. She is saying she has the sole authority to make that decision.
It’d be like saying a classroom of middle schoolers voted and they want to skip the lesson plan and go on a field trip. That’s great that they voted and demonstrated coming together against authority. Doesn’t mean they actually have that authority.
She is claiming sole authority due to a 2017 court ruling. It will be up to the courts to decide if that ruling was vacated after the tag-along language was put into the sale last year.
By your example that would be more like the ex-principal said the middle schoolers votes don’t count unless the outcome is agreed to by the teacher, but the new principal says the middle schoolers vote is binding even if the teacher disagrees.
So he was technically right, but the way it was framed made everyone think “Buss kids unanimously sold.” Context matters.
He didn’t report anything wrong, he just didn’t have anywhere near the full story. That’s the problem when all you care about is being first
If you’re not first, you’re last - Ricky Bobby’s dad Shams
Hell I was probably high at the time Ricky. You could be 2nd, you could be 3rd hell you could even come in 4th. Even Ricky Bobby’s dad realized he was wrong.
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Don’t you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!
You want to see what my life is like!?
grabs steak knife
Don’t you stick that knife in your leg..
To be fair, how could Shams have possibly known at the time that Jeannie was gonna try to contest the sale of her family’s shares
There’s always going to be updates to an ongoing story
Lets be honest, Jeannie calling out Shams for his reporting on this is just her being salty that she’s losing control of the power she’s spent the last decade plus clawing over
This whole saga is weird. He reported factual information about the sale that in no way called out Jeanie specifically.
I don’t like shams for a whole bunch of other reasons but Jeanie’s lawyer calling him out like that was wrong and frankly slanderous.
Which is exactly what the guy above is saying. If you want to be first to report the story rather than reporting the thing in its entirety you’re gonna miss things. Not that I think it’s much of an issue tbh.
What he reported is a story in itself. The family trust did vote, and the majority voted to sell. He didn’t say Jeannie voted for it.
When he reported it, she had not publicly stated her intent to contest it. That is a different piece of news.
Are you saying he can’t report things that haven’t happened yet!? Big if true.
Nobody should report anything until it’s able to be inserted in full into a history textbook
Sure Hitler died, but we really should wait until Japan surrenders before we report it.
If you follow the nba at all, you’d assume that the acting governor of the lakers probably didn’t vote for the sale
He could have gotten a comment from Jeanie?
Well, because Shams isn’t a journalist, he’s a news breaker. He’ll only say something if his sources tell him to say it.
Jeanie knows how it works and she’s contributed to that system for years. She literally does the same exact thing with Ramona Shelburne at ESPN.
By doing basic follow ups and due diligence
What was wrong about his reporting?
Is it really a problem here? You break a story and then there are follow stories.
he tweeted the breaking news at 12:30PM yesterday. At 1:00PM he tweeted a link to a full article with more of the story. Was everyone aware that he tweets full articles after the initial headline tweet?
AKA its not reporting and should not be treated as such
Counterpoint: it’s literally reporting. You report on stuff, and then do follow-up reporting when there are further developments.
It’s literally, by definition, reporting. You being salty doesn’t change the English dictionary definiton of a word. Pleasue just fucking stop
thing is that’s what readers care about these days and that’s what gets money
who’s first on news or a trend is what ppl get off of
100%. It’s actually gossip, even when is true or not. Actual reporting takes leg-work to confirm the validity of the news.
He didn’t miss anything. He reported only that there was a majority vote, which triggered the trust’s decision to sell. This is reportably newsworthy on its own and any legal action taken by those not part of the voting majority is reasonable to include in follow up reporting rather than waiting.
Literal non issue in this case. Dumbasses are just salty
Full quote:
That letter included my name in it, which I do find interesting. I do have to make it clear, I fully stand by my reporting. What I reported was that there was a majority vote (at least 4 out 6). the first line of the statement from the lawyer said that I reported that the 6 Buss siblings voted to sell. That key sentence right there is inaccurate.”
Ok so probably not the time and place I get it.
But.
Shams keeps walking this tight rope of being a mouth piece for agents while hiding behind the guise of being a reporter. This guy gets passed info, he doesn’t dig it up.
He’s gonna get passed BS from time to time and regurgitate it verbatim.
Well that’s his job to vet the information. If he gets burned by a source he will be less inclined to mouthpiece for them in the future.
This is theoretically true in a world where his access isn’t tightly controlled under the condition of his cooperation
Exactly. Sometimes it’s false, sometimes it’s potentially true - all under the guise of someone using him to push an agenda.
Regardless of where he gets the information from, as a journalist, he has an onus to verify.
Plenty of (good) journalists run with things that they might be skeptical about or unsure - and include a disclaimer.
I find it hilarious people here shitting on Shams for reporting a factual event, which has proven to be accurate, while praising Pablo has some top tier journalist whose reporting varies between opinion, assumption, unnamed sources (who haven’t even gone on the record) and who is now having a hissy fit because the NBA decided on a punishment he disagrees with.
Well it’s much more nuanced than that. Also, Pablo reports factual events and Shams runs on unnamed sources all the time.
Maybe he’s throwing a hissy fit because it’s corruption?
It goes against the integrity of the game?
Wild ass statement from you.
Lmao you are CLUELESS. I literally cannot come up with a single circumstance where a journalist doesn’t use an “unnamed source”, meaning doesn’t specifically cite the person they got the info from. This literally never happens. Sources are always protected. Torre is such a pro, you’re trippin. Dude drops bombshell after bombshell, and will often analyze with his opinion synthesis on where the situation is going. Wtf are you talking about.
Wholeheartedly agree. He needs to stop pretending like he is some kind of investigative reporter or doing any research. He’s nothing more than a mouthpiece, and his “journalistic integrity” to stand behind his reporting is just non existent.
But his reporting was accurate in this case?
He reported literally true information
No different than Scheffter in the NFL. News is still news, journalism rarely happens unless it’s someone like Pablo digging up the shit.
This is so semantics. Jeanie is mad because it seems like a done deal and she wants to contest. I think it’s very unlikely she will successfully contest but optic wise this makes it look worse for her which I think is why she is so mad.
Why do pat and Tucker carlson both make that stupid face whenever someone else is talking
Inner monologue goes, “Hey, that’s not my voice..”
Because they are actors and this is their “listening face”
Look of the photo of him he has standing down and to the right of himself.
Same pose.
I don’t watch sports media, but whenever I see it on a gym TV or whatever, it’s always weird to me how serious and angry they always look. It looks like the morning of 9⁄11 or some shit. You’d think a terrible tragedy just happened but then it turns out they’re talking about someone’s jumpshot or something
Seeing you phrase it like that gives a new meaning to “James Harden is a basketball terrorist”
I like to think they are genuinely confused. Makes it funnier
Cocaine
Have to pretend like they care when someone other than themselves is talking
That’s the rule. That’s the goal now.
LIVE TUCKER PAT REACTION
LIVE PABLO REACTION
“California used to be filled with Raisins. And now? It’s filled with garbage.”
https://youtu.be/UURf_6KI_Rk?is=pKBkb9zyUdGL_qLk
The caucasity of it
Because it’s all a bit.
Shams takes himself way too seriously
i’d argue this sub takes him just as serious
I’m saying lmao,
Dude thinks he’s Cronkite
“From Dallas, Texas, the flash—apparently official—Luka Doncic traded at 11:00 p.m. Central Standard Time, 12:00 Eastern Standard Time, some 38 minutes ago.”
The worst thing to ever happen in Dallas.
You guys take shams too seriously. And take Lakers billionaire drama too seriously. This doesn’t affect me at all. Walter did the real damage already. He already raised the prices for no good reason. So going to staples for a game was less likely this year. And with the clippers being bad again I get to watch the same teams I want to see for cheap again.
“Staples”?
Or Crypto arena? Renamed like 5 years ago?
Yah. I grew up in la. It’s been a staple for nearly 25 years. It’s going to stay that until it gets a better name than crypto.com. Arena.
Living in Woj’s shadow can’t be easy.
“You think you’re Woz? They don’t love you like that!”
I mean.. The guy just got name-dropped in a letter by a billionaire owner of one of the most expensive sports franchises in the world who wants to stop the sell that Shams reported on.
Kind of understandable why he takes himself seriously…
“this brother should be flipping burgers”
What is the sub weird obsession with hating shams and all of a sudden loving woj as if they’re significantly any different?
people are bored and upset at the world
“Patrick, what are you mad about?”
“I can’t see my forehead 😡”
I don’t like Shams, but to act like Woj didn’t do the exact same things is funny. Insider reporting sucks, it’s about currying favour and spreading stupid gossips to be either treasured/feared and getting that scoop 10 minutes earlier than anyone else. Stupid job that is really not needed if you think about it.
There’s not much difference. Shams seems to have relatively more connections with the player agents side, or at least seems to run an angle more favorable to the player agents than I remember Woj doing, who seemed to have more contacts in the team executive side of things. That minor difference could lead to a large perceived difference in the quality of their reporting but ultimately you’re right that while scoop reporting drives clicks, it’s actively bad at providing the public with complete information about a topic.
They are information merchants. They trade information to profit from. the legal way.
Redditors love their fat white nerds too much.
Hate drives engagement. I’ve been on this site for a long time and I’ve never seen as much needless hate as I have for SGA and Shams. People just develop like an instant kneejerk reaction when they see their names.
It drives engagement on Twitter so it made its way here
They are both useless, just repeating anything an NBA “source” tells them to.
I think most people have always hated shams.
Because Shams leans into weird memespeak and he has one tweet a month that is genuinely illegible. Just seems sloppy
wojbombs were cool at the time
shams copying his schtick in the big 26 is tired and lame
Unrelated but how is Pat McAfee in everything now. I never heard of him until the LeBron interview and now I see his face everywhere
He’s the only employee left at ESPN. They had to fire everyone else to pay him. So now he just has to cover everything 24⁄7.
They are saving a fortune in wardrobe costs. Just a weekly run to Walmart for a few more Hanes tanks. No more suits, no more tailors, no more ties
Zyn budget probably way past busted at this point though.
I still hate WWE for shoving this dude into my Cody vs Orton Wrestlemania main event. Shit was so unnecessary. You could hear the groans whenever Pat was onscreen.
At least he ate an RKO for some reason.
You’re making a joke here, but there’s some truth - ESPN has changed their content; adding more “stream-based” content like this, removing more “talk show” shows, firing experienced contributors, and leaning into short form content.
I personally hate it. They’ve taken ideas from streaming, Instagram, and other social media apps.
He’s the white Steven A Smith for ESPN
He started his own show on YouTube that was primarily NFL focused and gradually grew in popularity to the point he became one of the biggest names in all of sports media.
I remember way back seeing his name a bunch and recognized it’s a new popular sports personality. I finally watched some of the clips and couldn’t figure out why. I was expecting the guy to be funny, or insightful from his NFL career. But it was just mid & boring. Still don’t get the appeal. I normally can see the appeal of other big names, even if I don’t care for them. But McAffe is just bland and is forced on everyone now.
he’s no ESPN now so that’s why. He used to have it on his own thing then ESPN bought it out.
But you have to listen to his AI hip-hop country album or you just prove you’re a hater…
of course of course
White Stephen A Smith
Aww yes writing at most 2 quick halfassed sentences on twitter is “reporting”
Say what you want about the guy, but I’d want to defend myself too if my words were being twisted and thrown in my face
he literally tweeted out a link to a full article 30 minutes after his initial breaking news tweet. Do people just ignore that?
Yes
What would you call it?
“ Walter Cronkite saying that JFK was dead wasn’t reporting because it was one sentence.”
Why are people captivated by this story? Personally, I hope that ownership moves them to Vegas and LA gets another expansion team that Ballmer buys too.
Or move back to Minnesota. Twin cities and twin teams!!!
1000% believe it’s to distract from the Clippers.
Who the fuck cares Jesus Christ
Internet nerds who have nothing better going in their lives
Without watching, here is Pat’s 100% accurate response:
“Well you know these Billionaires are really smart people, they got a lot of money, so they are very smart people. Thank you Shams! Goodbye!”
“AJ Hawk is here, AJ, what did you think of what Shams had to say?”
AJ: 🗿
Love how people don’t like this guy anymore
When you’re the underdog going against Woj, you’re easy to root for. Now that Shams is Woj reincarnated, working for the galactic empire… yeah.
Shams isn’t a reporter, he’s an unofficial member of the nba media department. All of his “sources” are just the teams and agents who let him “break news” right before they officially announce it lol.
What you’re describing is a reporter
He’s the fabrizio Romano of the NBA. Both equally insufferable.
Fabrizio is way worse
Unfamiliar with the name but sure. What annoys me about shams and even woj when he was working is that they pretend like they had to hide in the shadows like a fly on the wall to obtain their info. But most of the work they do is just staying in the good graces of media and pr team.
I mean the reason those guys became by far the #1 guys at what they do, is because they’re incredibly good at creating contacts, staying up to date with everything happening, and prying for more information. Their job is just as hard as any other, or probably a lot harder considering they are the only guys to reach this far, and Shams is literally working 24⁄7.
If any person could be them, they would be.
What you’re saying is no different than going “steph curry just throws the ball in the basket”
But no one calls the Steph the best executive in basketball, because he plays on the court. I don’t Why Redditors have such a hard time reading. I’m not claiming that shams isn’t good at what he does, I’m arguing what he does isn’t what people think it is.
As in shams is a shmoozer that has great access, but that doesn’t make him a reporter it makes him a forward press secretary of the nba.
I’m more interested in if he stands by his “they’ve found no evidence against the Clippers” reporting
Sid Sixerio has been talking about how Shams won’t touch the Kawhi story, which I find interesting in this context. Perhaps there’s something shams is not in agreement to with what’s being reported on either side. Fully neutral for a story like kawhi’s is oddly strange
Nothing less interesting than how different sports writers feel about each other
It feels suspicious that this story is being forced upon us on the heels of the Clippers receiving absolutely no punishment for circumventing the salary cap.
It’s cute when Shams says that he does “reporting.” He’s like a little kid that thinks they’re a real fire fighter because they let him hold the hose one time.
hes not wrong but i still hate how important he thinks he is
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Woj was literally the exact same lol.
this pushing the Kawhi story to the backburner was not on my bingo card
Don’t let this distract you that Kawhi never planted a tree
This is why you name administrators of assets, but distribute profits based on beneficiaries.
Jeanie controls the asset + a reasonable income, but profits are distributed equally.
Folks that have no attachment to an asset or don’t understand investments and accounting see a big $ and think selling is the best case scenario.
who gives a fuck
Just start the season already ffs
Hilarious seeing a bunch of ‘bring back woj’ when this same sub was against him when he had his own episode with Bron/lakers
America isn’t ready for a brown “insider”
Can someone ELI5 what’s the big deal here?
People don’t like Sham.
Who’s source is more trust. The most connected man in the nba or redditors. Tough call
Shams always looks like he’s about to smile but never does. It’s really frustrating
Ooof, I hope he’s going to be ok cause yikes!
It’s funny that this is the thing the chams wants to come out and try and fight his journalistic integrity about LOL
I you J
how do you even tell whos who in the bunch of them
Did he call Jeanie Buss to confirm the sale? No, he didn’t. Bad reporting.
Woj would never…
He’s right and he worded his initial statement on the matter correctly as should be obvious to all.
Talking to Pat is like being hosted on Fox News.
you done son get him the fuck outta here!
The fact he is saying this on the Pat McAfee show isn’t helping his argument.
Since when did we all expect the “full story” to be part of breaking news. This is how Shams has reported forever and just because Jeanie got hot and bothered we are now getting on his case?
I miss Woj
what a clown
Shams is a shitstain
You’ll never be Woj