He is younger

PG is definitely a better jump shooter, definitely a better pick and roll facilitator and processor, definitely a better off-ball defender, and free throw shooter. Jaylen is a better point of attack defender and one on one scorer. The main advantage JB has over PG is durability…which if course is very important.

I think people are vastly overrated current Paul George. Brown is better by a decent degree. Prime PG was that dude but he’s nowhere near that guy anymore.

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Availability.

Are these takes still true? Given the age.

PG was all that for the pacers. He hasn’t been that dude for like 6 years. Fuck out of here. Celtics paying people to make shit up. The only thing that might help him on the Cs is he can legitimately be the 3 or 4 option. If he’s expected to be top two, yall ain’t winning shit.

They discuss it weirdly but yes, factually George does still do at least a handful of things better than Jaylen and compared to last season it’s actually Sam Hauser he’s playing instead of, and thus technically an upgrade.

Even Brad said this trade will hurt in the short term

PG might be better at all these things, but he can’t stay healthy and he’s old. JB is always ready to play and has improved every season since he came into the league. They’re both nice.

I actually think this trade made a lot of sense.

To answer the question though. He stays healthy.

Uh, Jaylen us 9 years younger and actually plays .

This is unbelievably disrespectful to Jaylen Brown lol

Jesus the Jaylen discourse has becomr terrible.

Pena is just trash.

Let’s see… Jaylen is:

- younger
- doesn’t get injured all the time like a little hoe
- is an eastern conference mvp
- is a finals mvp
- is a nba champion
- pretty good midrange
- can attack the rim and not get hurt
- can take on the other teams best player when needed

At their peaks, 10 outta 10 times I will always take Jaylen brown.

I’m rooting for PG to be successful on the Celtics but it will always be Jaylen over PG over here. Tired of the Jaylen slander.

He actually plays.

Rim pressure…PG13 has been a soft jump shooter for a long time now. He doesn’t entirely create advantages out of actions other than pull-up jumpers…which defenses often love. BUT…neither of them are particularly efficient players. Brown’s 3pt shooting is the one thing that really hurts him.

When you compare Brown to another higher level guy like Deni Advija who isn’t an elite 3pt shooter…Deni has had two seasons of 60% TS on a poor team with bad 3pt shooting. Brown has never ONCE hit 60% TS. PG has done it once.

So I dunno…neither of them are THAT great once you look past the highlights. Durability is a huge issue with Paul tho but at least he spaces the floor well.

lol look at games played. What does he do better? He plays.

People keep clinging to Paul George of the past. Prime PG, sure, he does a lot fo things better than JB. but dont disrespect JB today. The PG of today isnt in the same conversation as JB. For one, he cant stay on the court.

He plays more games.

The best ability is availability.

Age and injury history is the main difference.

He’s not washed

Reminds me of the mid 80s when people would claim that Dr. J was still as good as Larry Bird. Time marches on and PG’s best years are way back in the rear view mirror.

He is significantly better at playing games (health).

He plays more than 35 games a year.

nah. PG has old legs, was suspended for drugs, and does not have the athleticism or durability of JB.

This is an insane take

people going to gaslight the Celtics fans better than a cult could do lmao

As much as I agree with these points and the trade in general I’m hardly anticipating that PG will play to his full potential and be 100% for the playoffs. Any postseason success the Celtics see this year will just be a bonus and the real utility of the trade won’t manifest until next offseason, all the screeching over JB vs. PG is besides the point.

PG’s inside game, physicality, and durability don’t come close to JB’s, but last season PG shot 39% from three - a better percentage than Pritchard, who is a specialist. Given the Celtics’ system, which relies heavily on three-pointers, it wouldn’t be impossible to see PG making a significant contribution to the team’s offense.

The most important thing is that Paul george is not a winner

That’s all true, BUT, he’s only played 239 games out of 405 games over the last 5 years. He’s old and unreliable. Jalen is in his prime, 2 years removed from finals MVP and is as reliable as they come.

I can’t believe these comments. People actually think PG is better.

JB is a much better initiator despite the limitations on his handle (which are much improved). I also think he creates better looks due to his athleticism and physicality. I think that same athleticism and physicality makes a him a more versatile defender. He’s come a long way with his three ball and while he’s not the shooter PG is, he’s more than good enough for it not to matter.

People really hate JB 😂
Take JB off that team last year and replace him with PG. they wouldn’t be close to a second seed lol

JB is gonna put up like 30/12/8 on the year after this slander

80% of the gap is availability. The other 20% is athleticism.

J Kyle Mann is very knowledgeable and one of the analysts I trust the most.

Stay on the court.

Ain’t no way

Brown is objectively a better and more productive player in 2026; The numbers and accolades show that definitively but I won’t go down the list. Plus JB stays healthy and is a much better leader.

Defense. Not take banned substances. Getting hurt.

These are probably the same people that say Jaylen Brown was our 7th best player last year.

I’m not talking myself into PG>JB today by any means nor should anyone, but there’s gonna be some surprised people in here when PG averages 22 a game lol

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In 2026, Jaylen Brown is just a much better player in total. it’s not even close. People keep conjuring 2020 PG in their minds and think that’s whose playing for the Celtics.

Also, they will be dumping him next off season

JB is significantly better with the ball in his hands in transition, and also at this stage for each guy he’s a better on-ball defender

LOL the way these dorks have been saying that we are actually a better team without JB, and how PG is a better player, we better make it to at least the Eastern Conference Finals. No Excuses.

Stay healthy is the biggest and play long minutes on games. Also scoring off the dribble in crunch time. Early PG could rival JB but not old PG. he’s on his last leg and is a role player not a lead dog.

Midrange, on-ball D, transition offense, driving, finishing, availability, rebounding, passing. PG might be better than Jaylen at like 4 things

We didn’t make the trade FOR PG we made the trade to get away from JB

Be on the court.

What’s the cliché? The greatest ability is availability. Jaylen was good for 36 minutes a night over 71 games, and when his team needed him to be the primary offensive creator, he did that. Paul George, at this stage in his career, can’t be counted on to do any of those things.

Here’s another difference Celtics fans might notice next year: Jaylen drove the ball 19 times a game last year, and PG drove 5.7 times a game. The Cs need to replace Jaylen’s drives - and Tatum would need to take on a big extra load to do it. In 2023-24 (his last healthy year) he drove ten times a game. Some fans hate it when the Cs drive and kick to a three. They’ll hate it more if Boston just passes it around the perimeter looking for one.

I will agree that Paul George, if he’s healthy and motivated, can still play well. He frankly outplayed Jaylen in the playoffs last year when the two of them were on the court together. If that guy shows up in the playoffs again this year, and if he can sustain for more than one series, he might make the team a tougher out.

But that’s a couple of big “ifs”, and there will be some issues to sort in the regular season.

PG a more versatile defender?? Than Jaylen Brown?? Hahahahaha

He appears at basketball games in uniform.

The mental gymnastics to diminish JB’s values has been historic.

What does Brown do better than George? Well, for starters, he actually plays.

Brown has played at least 63 games each of the last 5 seasons.

George has only played 63 or more games ONCE in the last 5 seasons.

Shot creation, athleticism, defense and heart/ intensity.

Other than that, they’re pretty similar

PG is just out of his prime, thats it. In his prime he was just as athletic as JB and a better first option. He probably won’t be able to take over like JB can right now but he’s a better number 2 option especially for Joe’s system.

the biggest thing is his health, for whatever warts he may have Brown is consistently one of the healthiest stars in the league. PG on the other hand…

2pt scoring, scoring in the paint, drawing fouls, getting to the free throw line, collapsing the defense, rebounding, POA defense. Its not a lot but the 2pt scoring he isnt just a bit better, he is way better. Miles higher 2p%, 2pt frequency, paint points, free throws. Being able to put pressure on the rim - PG doesnt do that at all.

Win a championship.

do these people realize PG is always injured? being healthy like Jaylen is one of his upsides

The only answer is that he is more available i.e. plays more games

Be available

Yes, Paul George is better at all of those things. But he’s not better at winning championships.

I’m only pointing that out because I think you need to reconsider how you’re approaching the Paul George vs. Jaylen Brown question. If your criteria say George is clearly better at all the individual basketball skills, but Brown has consistently had more success winning at the highest level, then maybe the comparison requires more than just checking off which player is better at which skills.

Paul George is Kirk Cousins.

Jb is more athletic and better at getting to the basket (Pg dont do it now,he is too old) and have less of injury history and less wear and tear

Pg is better shooter and more intelligent passer

He actually plays in games.

Well he plays more games for one, and he’s done more in the postseason for another.

Lol

Brown has an FMVP and Paul George doesn’t.

I mean he drives better than PG and we low key needed that more on our broader roster last year. I’m not trying to hate on the trade but it’s a very valid answer lol

Then why did the Sixers throw in 4 draft picks to make the trade?

Wtf?

It’s health and age. And those matter. But if you’re only looking at impact on the court (which assumes PG is on the court), PG is a very good player with less wow plays both good and bad. Less dynamic in transition, for example, but also isn’t going to have the three turnovers in four possessions stretches that JB would have.

1. Everything
   
2. Play basketball (look at games played over last couple of years)

Paul George is 36 fucking years old and in his last two seasons has played 37 and 41 games. GTFO with this nonsense trying to cope so fucking hard lol

Number one he plays. PG played 78 games combined the last 2 years combined. JB played 71 just last year.

2 JB is a better and more versatile scorer. For a team who entered the offseason saying they needed a more diversified offense they are trading their best mid range scorer for a guy who shoots half his FGA from behind the arc.

JB does literally everything better other than 3 point percentage and that isn’t what this team needs more of

Play an extra 20 games a season?

Paul George might fit a role better as a 3 and d #2 guy, but he’s not better than Jaylen brown overall.

He’s younger and doesn’t get injured every year. Also, more clutch in high pressure situations. Paul George had to guard Dame in the playoffs and Dame made the logo shot and eliminated OKC. Brown on the other hand had to guard Luka in the finals and did a really good job. Celtics won the championship and Brown was finals MVP.

He also doesn’t impregnant strippers and cheat on a coach’s daughter. But then again Jaylen Brown is young so that might be in his future for all I know.

He plays more games and does a way better job of turning the ball over when the game is on the line.

The biggest edge for JB is health which is obviously a huge edge.

Ok now factor in that PG typical plays half the games JB does. There’s the problem. Dependability!

Past tense argument against present tense conditions. Jaylen doesn’t have the same injury history.

If this were such a phenomenal trade, why did the Sixers make it?

This is just more coping from greenteamers who either can’t understand or are outright refusing to accept that there was no basketball reason to make this trade. The reality is that profit margin is the only thing this new ownership group gives a shit about.

Availability

Some say the best ability is availability and PG ain’t great at that, he’s a overpriced 3&D 37 year old who is nothing more than a walking trade chip that will lead us to the promise land or the end of it all next summer

What’s funny is there isn’t a single compelling thing listed in this or the nba thread in response to the original question

Look, JB had plenty of highlights and played exceptional one on one D in a finals series in which there wasn’t a standout scorer. He’s an all-star caliber player, but his game isn’t perfect AND when he tries to over play his game, it’s flat out costly to the team. Turnovers, bad reads out of double teams, dribbling to the wrong spot on the floor, not getting rid of the ball quicker, etc. Arm-bar step back mid-range Js make highlight reels, but they aren’t good basketball. Coaches aren’t going to talk shit, but they all see this and this is why he’s gone and why teams weren’t willing to trade much for him. PG needs to stay healthy of course, but he needs to listen to the coaches, move the basketball, make quick decisions, not try to be a hero, and play good team D (something JB wasn’t always locked in on).

He is actually on the basketball court, playing in games

We turned to cope quick

PG in the last two seasons only played 78 games that horrible. These guys dont know what they talking about Ill JB career all day. PG was great until that leg injury. But there’s no reason why anybody is taking PG over JB. That’s a crazy take

Getting downhill, into the paint and attacking the hoop.

Brown is a better star player at this point in their careers, but George is better in his role than Jaylen is.

That’s why I worry about Jaylen in Philly. If they are healthy, they just don’t need what Jaylen does to the extent he does it.

Even we chose to move off of him and we only have one high usage star player. Including Jaylen, they have 4

you can have a very fine debate over who’s the better player, or who’s better at this aspect versus that aspect of the game, when both are fully healthy.

unfortunately, one is rarely healthy and is also on the downside of their career.

yea but how often is PG available? Jaylen is one of the most durable players in the league.

He plays more than 20 games a season

Well for starters he actually plays

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Scroll and enjoy

We aren’t talking about pacers or thunder PG here, he hasn’t played half a season in like 4 years

Man there should be no excuses next year. If PG is just as good as JB, with a healthy tatum, this team should have 50 wins minimum and at least a second round appearance. Let’s put some expectations on this team.

Brown is younger, more athletic, runs the break better, pressures the rim better, and plays WAYYYYYY more.

PG fits into a system way better, and Brad gambled that a system focused entirely on JT is better than one that is split between JT and JB.

Hope he’s right

Be on the court, for 1.

At this point Jaylen Brown is being punished for being productive and playing and Paul George is receiving a boost for no reason at all.

Not get injured constantly, he’s a better defender, and he has many more years in the tank. Wtf are these guys even talking about?

Plays a full season and playoffs….

We spent 10 years blabbering about how JB & JTs skill sets were too similar. Now everyone is talking about how PG is actually the perfect fit for Tatum?

Stay healthy.

pg is old and can’t stay healthy jb is under 30 and has stayed pretty healthy so far

Start with ‘show up and play in the games.”

Look at the celtics 6ers box score from this past playoffs. Paul was more efficient and was able to be part of the recipe of big wins in game 6 and 7 where JB put up big numbers less efficiently and with less team bball resulting on losses.

Their stat lines were not far off in that series, and pauls team was able to ball around him as well vs jalen seems to push guys out beyond the arc or leave his teams mates mentally checking out on plays while they watch the jalen show.

I remember multiple instances that series where i remember paul having inpactful moments and showing up jalen, i dont recall any with jalen making pg look foolish

George cooked both Tatum and Brown in the playoffs.

Idk if I would trust PG to go out there and guard the other teams best player, which is what JB is going to do for the Sixers. PG will probably be an easy plug and play partner for Tatum tho. While JB’s fit offensively won’t be as natural

Pina has an agenda against JB because the guy couldn’t believe what the Celtics did last season with him as the lead option. He was firmly in team tank even months into the season.

We put far too much weight on what these writers say when they’re really just fans with a platform. It’s the Bill Simmonsification of sports. Use your own critical judgement. These guys weren’t exactly at the top of their class at anything; they’re just like us except they’re not stuck ruminating on Reddit.

We all have eyes. PG barely played and was rested by round 1; JB was exhausted from a long season carrying a lot of the offense. Let’s also not forget: he had summer knee surgery and played hurt in the back half of the title defense season. Also these dickheads that keep bringing up JB’s playmaking need to be fair: he was actually pretty decent at that last season, which is really the first season he had to do it while facing the kind of defensive pressure a number one option faces. He never had the reps that Tatum did to become the playmaker he’s become. You may hate the guy, but JB did what was asked across his entire decade here, even if he made errors along the way.

Side note: it actually surprises me that these writers don’t bring it up (like, at all) when they talk about the JB trade: debriding a meniscus leads to the eventual knee deterioration that hurt athletic players like DWade when they got older and JB is turning 30 soon. It was probably still too early to move him for a washed PG, but we can’t turn back time — still this post-trade lionization for PG is bullshit. These Ringer guys are going full cope.

Let’s be real: PG is a fat contract that the Celtics are gambling they can use to trade for a disgruntled max-contract star. It was the same gamble with Ant that led to Vooch… oh wait, that didn’t actually work except to eventually save money for the Private Equity folks…

Kinda crazy how quick Celtics fans switched up on JB

JB plays games. The debate starts and ends there.

Definitely no, but he is way younger so hopefully injuries do not hold PG back.

Blah blah blah fucking blah.

Jaylen’s better. We all know it. We have eyes.

Damn. I’ve never seen J Kyle Mann before and that is not what I thought he would look like.

I’m not pg fan but give me every day a PG13.  Very good for the locker room vibes. 

No an problematic “smart”player with -50iq like jaylen 

Pandemic PG13 it’s better than prime jaylen.  Playoffs P is better by far 

Stay healthy?

No doubt PG is a more talented and complete player on paper. But he’s struggled to stay healthy. Still rather have him as an expiring asset rather than keep and extend JB at this cost. The point of this trade was not “PG is better than JB”, but “keeping and extending JB at current cost limits our ability to build a championship team.”

George WAS all those things years ago.

Has anyone watched George D-Up Brown? Brown can’t do shit against him!!

Jaylen squarely in his absolute physical prime at 29 while old man is 36. That alone is reason to not make this trade. One in his sweet spot the other in the twilight!

Red is still rolling over!

Jaylen Brown actually Plays 🤡🤡

Bad take

Stats nerds are the worst. They talk about on off stats and plus minus. JB scored 2038 points last year. PG scored 641. Jaylen was on the court. PG was off. I like PG but he is not close to the player JB is currently. Caveat, I think there are some slight signs that JB may not continue to have the same health level in the next couple of years. 

Hes reliably on the court

He actually plays basketball.

Defense, rebounding, driving to the rim, dunking, playmaking…

PG is a good scorer but this is crazy disrespectful to JB

Well, Brown didn’t need to take 2 months off for a PED suspension last season.

Cope

Rim penetration is the answer

PG can’t do it anymore, lucky for the Celtics they aren’t going to ask him to do it. So I think this is a scenario where you might get better outcome from a lesser player. PG as a role player is better than Brown as a star.

Boston media trying to cope so bad…

What are these replies?

It’s not just about availability. Jaylen Brown has a resumé of coming through in the playoffs.

Paul George has made it to a conference finals once — despite being on many different “contenders”

PG’s always been a very talented player, but they are not cut from the same cloth

1 man was 6th in MVP the other took a 25 games vacation for cheating. PG is a good player but When Brown had a different role in 2024 he locked the f outta Luka, he can defend but you just cant ask a 28ppg guy to guard like that even then he tried in the playoffs even on Embiid. PG is a better shooter and with a smaller role was a better defender last year but JB played as no.1 option and got his team to the playoffs.. they are not the same role. Go compare PG13 to elite roleplayers not to no.1 options. The disrespect is crazy

This is the biggest load of cope I’ve ever seen and if any of you buy into it you’re frauds. None of you wouldn’t have said this last year when Jaylen was a part of the team.

He plays. I really can’t stress enough the importance of actually suiting up and playing.

This is ridiculous. Brown is the better player plays 75 games a year to Paul George’s 40. Was 6th and MVP voting. Like there’s no defending this trade it’s just basically the Luca trade.

We were already under the apron so we can’t blame that. Keep seeing people try to blame the apron on Brown being treated and it’s nonsense.

Younger