Do you think MIP should be given to a player who went from bad to okay, or from okay to great.

Idk how else to word the title, since bench players aren’t inherently bad, but I’ll give an example.

In 2019 Siakam won MIP and went from 7/4/2 to 17/7/3. A pretty big leap that made him go from a bench player to a starter.

Now for the okay to good example, in 2022 Ja went from 19/4/7 to 27/6/7. Another pretty big leap that won him an all nba second team. Going from a starter quality player to an all star.

Ik that MIP is a bit of a weird award and not always given to the player it’s deserved by, but in general do you think it’s more impressive for a player to go from a bench player to a starter? Or a starter to make a leap to an all star. What are your thoughts?

Soft-Dimension-6959

11 | an hour ago

both can win. it really depends on how big their improvement is..

Choice_Page9744

7 | an hour ago

I mean, in an ideal scenario we have someone who went from bench player to star. If not, a star leap is probably harder, so I would go with starter-to-star, like Deni.

glowing-fishSCL

1 | 18 minutes ago

I am trying to think of examples of that happening. I mean, I am sure there are plenty of cases of rookies taking a year or two to become a star, but is there anyone who went from bench player to all-star after their fourth season?

Lorunox

1 | 9 minutes ago

Jalen Brunson. Also, Norman Powell

Disastrous-Ad2800

3 | 37 minutes ago

problem is we don’t know what criteria the voters use? Deni Avdija was the real MIP this past season, that’s a fact not my opinion and I will die on this hill but Nickeil Alexander Walker and Jalen Duren were the top two?

I could give you Duren but Nickeil over those two? c’mon! BTW in answer to the question, okay to great as bad to okay makes it a participation trophy award…

Yamato_Naoe | Warriors

1 | 3 minutes ago

Nickeil doubled his PPG to become a 20 PPG scorer while maintaining (even slightly improving) his FG%, all while only going up to 33 MPG instead of 25. He deserved that MIP award.

SUPERSAMMICH6996 | Cavaliers

1 | 36 minutes ago

It should be given to the player who improved the most from one season to the next. The fact that people have tried to complicate it and make it so that players who were drafted highly can’t win because they are ‘supposed to improve’ is fucking ridiculous to me.

MVPG2022 | Clippers

1 | an hour ago

They should be an all star level leap like Ja Morant. It’s far rarer to make that leap and that has the most impact on winning games.

Also don’t really care where a player was drafted. So many players are busts anyway.

worldisamirror

1 | an hour ago

Okay to great

Traditional_Cause263 | NBA

1 | 43 minutes ago

Personally, I think the most impressive thing is to go from sub-star/all-star to superstar. The extra championship equity you gain from going from someone at Jaylen Brown’s level to SGA is a huge leap. For example, 1st place Jokic had a VORP (value over replacement player) of 9.2 vs. 10th place Scottie Barnes with 4.2.

Next would be that jump from decent to star player (like Ja Morant did, though it’s kinda cheating to use such young players since they usually start out pretty bad). Thats how it is I think in a star driven league.

Alex_O7

1 | 36 minutes ago

I think they should ban players in year 3 or 4 to get the MIP, we are basically talking players that are developing into stardom either way…

In the case of Ja but also Maxey more recently, it doesn’t make sense how they voted, imho.

I think MIP should be reserved to guys that made an unexpected jump and award stories like Lauri few years ago, or Oladipo after the year in the gulag in OKC…

The only time I can get a guy in year 3 or 4 to get the MIP is when one became a star out of nowhere, like CJ or Jimmy did back in their years.

Puppazz | 76ers

1 | 32 minutes ago

For me it’s anyone in their 2nd year or later that shows a marked improvement in their play, greater than anyone else in the same situation. I find it a bit weird how there has to be some sort of narrative that goes along with it.

BARBASANN

1 | 24 minutes ago

It really shouldn’t matter as long as you had a significantly better year than the year prior IMO. If LeBron went out and averaged 38/8/8 he should win most improved player.

Bandit-Bunny-7727

1 | 8 minutes ago

Okay to great or bad to great.

I don’t see what is the point of giving to someone who does okay.