Tyrese Haliburton tells us what it’s really like to get traded in the NBA. via the Numbers on the Board Podcast
Woj really was the Lord Varys of the NBA with his little birds.
Perfect fucking comparison đ, the master of all secrets
David Stern was Robert Baratheon
GODS HE WAS STRONG THEN
Ballmer is Tywin Lannister
This means Adam Silver is Walder Frey
Let’s keep this going. Who’s John Snow?
Tyrese Haliburton
Honestly? I could see it. Achieves something huge and then dies, comes back with new purpose
Brunson?
Josh hart is Samwell. Or maybe ygritte
He is ramsay
Who’s Hotpie?
Embiid
Zion
Zion is Hodor.
Surely he doesn’t deserve this lofty comp
Does that mean Kawhi is Gregor Clegane?
So Bill Gates is Lady Olenna?
Tywin being Donald Sterling is right thereâŠ.
That makes Adam Silver Joffrey.
It feels correct
So Pablo Torre is Olenna Tyrell?
Oh my god thatâs spot on. Whoâs Circe then?
Unlike the real Varys he got out before being burned to death. Shams gotta know when to quit if he wants a clean exit too.
Nah Shams is Littlefinger
Thats too complimentary.
Shams is Maester Pycelle.
You say this like Season 8 is canon rather than fanfiction.
I laughed so hard thatâs so fucking out of pocket
Ngl Woj being on the phone with Hali to break the news to him personally is so hilarously unxpected
Probably means Hali’s agent was one of his many sources so he’s just returning a favor to keep his sources happy
could also be the GM makes his life easier when the player knows it already and had time to process it
Haliburton hangs up the phone.
processes for less than one second…
GM calls: “ok bye”
Woj and Shams talk to every single GM.
Itâs an easy way to learn what other GMs are doing and what moves could happen. Also, you use them to refute stories.
Sacramento is dumb as hell for that. How often you draft a max contract caliber rookie guard that actually WANTS to play in Sacramento and represent that city?? Tyrese has a gold medal and willed his team to Game 7 of the nba finals and Sacramento is stuck overpaying for Zach Lavine
told him to buy a house and prepare to settle down n everything đčđčđč
The only thing Sacramento knows is pain. Just 20 years of non stop blundering.
Them not getting a top 4 pick this year is so brutal especially with the new draft rules
At least they got Acuff who has a high ceiling
The fucking SpongeBob sound effect was right on too lmao
The sky is blue. The earth is round. More news at 11.
At least you have unique colors
The irony is for most of their press stuff, socials and marketing, the Kings just use black and white. And relegate purple to merely an âaccent color.â
Just Kangz things
Sometimes the beam is a small caliber bullet traveling at 1100fps toward your face.
https://imgur.com/a/OEG0pJ7
https://imgur.com/ztjZGQ1
Tbf, Sabonis is/was a stud.
he was never worth haliburton though
Especially the season after the trade there were so many pieces on here about it being a win for both teams - at the time the Kings were performing a lot better and Hali was able to work on the Pacers in a way he wasnât in Sacramento.
Itâs possible you or others here had more foresight and knew all along, but most people on this sub didnât think it was some bad, lopsided âlol Kingsâ trade.
I’m with ya. It was viewed pretty heavily by reddit and the media as a fairly win/win trade. (except nate duncan, he hated sabonis the whole time).
I can even understand the trade in hindsight for the kings. They were betting Fox was going to remain better than Hali. It wasn’t really a is sabonis better than Hali decision. They wanted to quicken the timeline and pair Fox with a better fit to grow beside him.
Unfortatnely the Kings failed to consider that they are the kings and couldn’t stick with their plan for more than 3 seasons and tried to rush things for the 15th time.
i thought the trade was terrible from when it happened and i remember a lot of others thinking the same. iâve never been a fan of sabonis as a player and never viewed it as a win, especially not after the kings only good season ended with them losing in the first round and sabonis playing terribly
It was always a terrible and lopsided trade from the second it happened. One season of getting into the playoffs never erased that.
Chances are if the kings did it, itâs the wrong thing to do
There was a substantial minority who immediately thought it was a bad trade for Sacramento.
Jj Redick called it basketball malpractice from the start
That same interview he laughed at the kings making the playoffs the next year. The next year they finished 3rd in the West. đ€·
He was. 2 time all star averaging 20/12/7 and received all NBA votes. He has since gotten all NBA (same as hali) and received MVP votes.
He’s an absolute stud and was the better player in 2021.
sabonis was 25 and haliburton was 21 no shit he was the better player in 2021, he wasnât worth haliburton because of the potential hali showed
There are plenty of rookies who don’t live up to their potential. You’re better off with the sure thing (who was also improving every year) than someone who might get better.
FYI I don’t think the Kangz should’ve traded hali, they should’ve traded Fox, but in a vacuum the trade was fair.
Hali wasn’t a rookie. He was a rookie the year before who had already succeeded, and was by this point as a second year player establishing himself as a hyper efficient lead guard and that was with Fox getting the bulk of ball handling.
It was very easy to see he was going to be someone who when given greater opportunities would put up some big numbers. It’s why everyone hated the deal at the time.Â
Sabonis was also already pretty clearly a very good offensive player with massive defensive limitations.Â
âYou’re better off with the sure thing (who was also improving every year) than someone who might get better.â
not with young players early in their careerâs who show good potential, especially those who were lottery picks. sabonis as a player was established by then
Sabonis at the time was two years removed from being a bench player. His first two years starting in Indy he was an all star and grew every year. It continued after the trade where he was all NBA and received MVP votes
I didnât know it was possible to still think this in 2026
You can go read the original thread. The most upvoted two comments are from King’s fans saying essentially please kill me now. And another one from a Hawks fan saying the Kings are the worst FO in the league.
Everyone knew it was awful even at the time when Sabonis had good numbers.Â
Go ahead and take a look:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/snr58f/wojnarowski_the_pacers_are_trading_domas_sabonis/
Mate you’re using a reddit thread as actual analysis lmao. Kangz fans were upset because hali was the first player in like 30 years to say I want to play for the kings and then got traded.
Well I counter your reddit thread with one labelled serious that has a much more sober reaction aligned to my own. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/snsw5z/serious_posttrade_discussion_thread_the_indiana/
And FYI I wouldn’t used reddit threads to gauge the quality of… Well anything. Here are threads saying the KAT and Brunson trades were lose lose (couldn’t find the bridges trade but I’m sure that one was worse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/CIqVL8LR2k
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/0kYCeW3XrU
And here is an actual NBA writer grading it B+ for the Kangzzz and B- for Indy.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3118685/2022/02/08/kings-pacers-swing-six-player-trade-involving-domantas-sabonis-tyrese-haliburton-instant-grades-and-reaction/?source=user_shared_article&unlocked_article_code=1.6FA.IfZY.ABXTmkvK__RO&smid=ta-android-share
HELL NO
This is completely wrong.
Lol
No he wasnât
They didn’t trade Hali for Zach Lavine, they traded him for Sabonis, who was an all-NBA Center (the one position they actually needed, while they had a logjam at Point Guard) that led them to the 3-seed in the WEST the next year.
Yes–it was a shortsighted win-now trade that predictably backfired in a big way, which many people were able to see coming the second it happened.
The only reason it went SO badly is because they now have NONE of those 3 Point Guards, which was not really a foreseeable outcome at the time. If you want to clown a Kings trade, clown the Fox trade that got them NOTHING in return.
the actual reason it went so bad is because they got a good pg/c combo, drafted a good SF the next season, and then tried to patch their massive hole in the 4 by forcing Keegan down a position to cover defense. Monte never traded for a good PF, Keegan lost his shot and the other integral pieces that got the 3 seed and could shoot decent(Davion Mitchell, Kevin Huerter) got traded away for randoms. After that it was basically 2 years of a misconstructed team that could never find its flow.
This is a real ball knower. Yes, we suck, but not for the reasons you think.
nah Iâll clown the original trade because Tyrese was a young bright eyed rookie who, again, actually WANTED to represent Sacramento. I went to school there, I know how much that fanbase loved their team and how loyal they are after decades of losing
They drafted a young guard who almost went #2 to the warriors, told him to buy a house and then pulled the rug out from under him
I usually donât feel bad for nba players getting traded, but knowing Tyrese was crying and all that I just think the Kings are dumb as hell
In what world can you play two ball heavy point guards with average at best defense together on the floor? They traded for Sabonis in spring 2022. They finished that year (which was majority Fox and Haliburton) at 30-52, 12th in the conference. Their front court was Harrison Barnes, Richaun Holmes, Trey Lyles and Marvin Bagley.
They then played out the 22-23 season with Fox and Sabonis and placed 3rd in the West with Mike Brown (now a NBA champion coach) and almost took out the Warriors in 7. One of those guards had to go or their team makeup would never make any sense.
The Sacramento Kings are a farm team.
On the other hand, I don’t trust the Kings to be competent enough to build around Hali like the Pacers did in 2025. I think Hali’s going to have a better career in Indiana.
I mean, at the time, no one wanted Foxâs contract and something had to give. Sabonis worked out at the time and then the Bear Team was amazing. This has more to do with not getting Doncic and the. Our stupid owner getting involved with personnel.
Anyone with a brain knew they should of traded Fox not Haliburton.
It was not-great trade at the time that aged terribly, but you did as much to win that gold as hali did.
Woj has a secret backdoor into every players phone?
Wojsad.
“who the fuck is this??” Lmao
Every nba player needs to save their side piece as âwojâ asap.Â
Great question, D Mills
Bro had to lock in after the ChatGPT stuff đ
he was on the bathroom floor crying but he wasn’t gonna say that here among guys lol. i think he said so on Taylor Rooks pod.
sounds like someone in touch with their emotions and who can move past things quickly
No no no no you gotta bottle that shit up all manly like and then spend the next 20 years wondering why you canât connect with your kids and why you canât get a promotion at work
Itâs pretty crazy how Woj and Shams seem to always know before the players do
they found out theyre getting traded with us lol
That, or theyâre always napping/asleep and wake up to their phones blowing up lol
The NBA is really just Woj’s 2k franchise
Itâs the âI donât wanna tell the player face to face or via phone so letâs tell Woj/Shamsâ
Can you imagine this guy with Joel
tyrese and tyrese backcourt woulda been cold
âWOJ THAT Uâ
Hali is a great story teller. Dude has great charisma.
Anyone else just waiting for his voice to switch up lol
He did kind of at 1:10 when he said âIâm like no wayâ
WOJ definitely is the goat.
Love the sound drops in this clip
How many hosts does this podcast have lol?
Theyâre all close friends from high school so I donât even think thereâs really a designated host
4 and theyâre all infinitely better than any talking head at ESPN
Numbers on the board is goated
Who the fuck is this? đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Getting traded is probably one of the weirdest parts of the NBA that fans never really think about. One day youâre building your life somewhere, the next day youâre told youâre moving across the country.
Dennis Schroeder once talked about this and I feel for him. He talked about being tired moving his family to different cities. As much as this sub clowned on him, him talking about the reality of being a journeyman was an eye opener for meÂ
Pfft. 1, 2, 3, family…
It’s 1, 2, 3, oligarchic crony capitalism! Welcome to the NBA.
damn bro
we idolize these players so much but imagining him sitting on the bathroom floor shooketh that he just got dealt to the Pacers is so humanizing
100% this was a great look into the reality of it. Then a Woj bomb on top
I miss him, he was my favorite King.
Shams could never
Tyrese would’ve fit Philly so well but he wouldn’t have turned into the player he is now without leading his own team
I could understand breaking up the hali and fox backcourt, but when you end up trading both anyways you just gotta laugh
In offseason bingo, Hali bringing up Sacramento trading him is the free square.
Tyrese Haliburton is a likable dude.
Kinda nuts that this is(at least me) the first time hearing the story of how it went down. Nobody felt the need to ask this before??
The discord noise đđđ
the day vivek ranadive is gone will be a glorious day for the nba (please dont fuck up with the next owner)
I heard him say a few years ago that Woj was on the call and I thought he was just joking at the time, ngl
Shams could NEVER
It ain’t family just because you can’t be traded in college and high school.
got traded over text once feels weird af
Going to be honest, it’s shit like this that makes me cringe a little bit when I see fans talk about team loyalty. It really puts into perspective when players do things for money and/or rings.
Interesting to hear, they can kinda call their relationships around and know. LeBron prob immediately knows
Kings just canât help but shoot themselves in the foot smh they are always on the wrong end of every transaction
Hilarious that Woj broke it to him before the team even did
Does it include tampering?
Woj bomb mannnn
Temu Club 520 pod.
This guy is irrelevant now
So you know they know that when they start talking too much đ€
EDIT: for all you down voters please name one player who has come back from a serious season ending injury (sat out the whole season) and became relevant again
In todayâs era.
The last game this man played was literally game 7 of the finals.
how is that irrelevant
for all you down voters please name one player who has come back from a serious season ending injury (sat out the whole season) and became relevant again In todayâs era.
Kevin Durant
His last time playing was a finals run where he had record breaking number of buzzer beaters and took the Thunder to game 7 in that finals (and having the lead before he got injured)….. If you’re going to rage bait at least make it somewhat believable
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You either win. Or lose. No in between
A. Winning the East is still an accomplishment that’s noteworthy. Especially when no one had them doing that.
B. Tyrese was only 24 in that finals…. He still has a whole career ahead of him
A whole career ahead of him before or after the major injury?
Cause I know nobody who has ever became relevant or won more rings after serious injuries đ€·ââïž
The worst type of basketball fan right here
Also, whatâs funny about Haliburton being injured and losing his status as a result of a devastating injury to begin with? Heâs worse for that.
To answer your question, Kawhi Leonard sat a full season in 21-22 and had a career year last year. KD and Klay also did in 19-20.
Kawhi only played 9 games the season before he won FMVP
Didnât Kevin Durant miss an entire season after his Achilles injury?
i like how you specified âsat out the whole seasonâ as a way of excluding tatum lmao
eta: to answer your question, kawhi
He must stay good and relevant. My Knicks need their getback. Fucker has terrorized us for too long
Didn’t KD have one of his most efficient seasons after an achilles tear?