[Highlight] First Take segment on LeBron James 2017 response to Charles Barkley: “He’s a hater… I’m not the one who threw somebody through a window.”
He was completely justified.
I’m not sure what more you could want from the face of your sport than what Bron has given his entire career.
LeBron is the cleanest superstar of all time. I can’t think of a single bad thing he’s ever done.
Everything he done bad was during his senior year in HS, getting free jerseys and his mom taking out a loan in his future earnings to get a hummer 😂😂
I’ve done worse for a hummer
So has Charles. LeBron gave Barkley enough grace to not also bring that up when he really could have.
👀 what yall talking bout?
Look up Charles Barkley blowjob 😆
Nah. Don’t think I will.
Exactly. I’ll just wait until someone tells me or remain clueless. Seems like a win win to me.
You ever heard of Sneed’s Feed and Seed? That used to be Chuck’s.
When a guy is bangin you
For anyone who doesn’t feel like looking it up, I’m pretty sure he’s referring to Barkley getting a dui while trying to pick up a prostitute
So did Delon… you know what, nvm
You mean you’ve given a hummer for worse?
Those aren’t bad things
What they call it? Self discovery 🌈
And now kids are openly paid in high school to play for teams and it continues in college with top players making millions. It’s “allowed” But goes to show it really wasn’t that big a deal in hindsight.
See Mikey Williams. One of the top HS prospects for his year, got the NIL bag, and then stupidly shot up a car ruining his potential NBA career. The fact that LeBron has had a squeaky clean career for over 2 decades is nothing short but amazing.
Right and people classify that as “bad” 😂
Besides selling out to China and criticizing Daryl Morey for expressing human rights concerns i would agree.
To be fair, Daryl Morey is a liar
Lmao got me
You’re not OP
He’s a liar too
“I repeat…”
That’s NOTHING, though. Trying to hold a basketball player to a higher standard than our politicians’ policies is crazy work.
I assume anyone that has a problem with Lebron being a sellout also has those same concerns with politicians selling out.
I think you underestimate the number of LeBron haters who are also trump supporters who have zero problems with his behavior.
Dude, once I realized that the Venn diagram of LeBron haters and Trump supporters was pretty much just a circle, so many things fell into place.
They get really mad when there’s a successful black man that they don’t have real dirt on. Remember Obama’s suit?
You don’t think LeBron has Black haters? I’ve been in the barbershop man I’ve met them. They just hate him for different reasons than the folks you’re describing.
Yeah but that’s Jordan or Kobe based
Whataboutism isn’t how you handle this big dawg. Two people can be shitty.
Trying to hold a basketball player to a higher standard than our politicians’ policies is crazy work.
At this point I wish people would hold politicians to the same standards as basketball players because it’s currently at the very bottom.
I was gonna say it’s not nothing, but then I thought about all the times I’ve said stupid short-sighted or selfish shit and not had a microphone or camera in front of me to broadcast it.
So yeah I agree, it’s crazy he’s got such a clean record that the China thing is his biggest real controversy.
I have bad news for you about the NBA as a whole if you think “selling out” to China is unforgivable. You should probably stop following the league
I would not do what Morey did on social media and I have far fewer followers.
If I posted some anti China shit under my LinkedIn, my whole team at work (which includes a Chinese citizen working her on a visa) would think I was a gaping a-hole.
We have serious contracts with Chinese companies. So, duh, can’t be doing that under my real name.
Anti-China? Didn’t he literally just say “Fight for Freedom. Stand with Hong Kong.”?
It’s not like he went on some racist tirade (thinly-veiled, overt, or otherwise). Let’s not go revising the record here, he ultimately tweeted something that was fairly innocuous by most moral standards
Don’t think he said it was unforgiveable, just that it was a bad thing. I think most people would agree it wasn’t a good thing. Lebron didn’t even need to say anything.
I agree it wasn’t good, but it certainly aligned with what the NBA as an org wanted him to say.
Oh yes. Getting mad at people for selling out to China…. Def had nothing to do that this was all happening WHILE HE WAS IN CHINA FOR NBA EXHIBITION…. Im sure that had nothing to do with it and he just loves communism….people these days
LeBron James Speaks Out On NBA Controversy After Returning From China : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/15/770305688/back-from-china-lebron-james-speaks-out-on-nba-controversy
AFTER RETURNING FROM CHINA
People these days
Yeah no kidding. Some people are brain dead aren’t they /u/Jplsa?
it also includes James saying Morey didnt think/consider about US teams being in China when he tweeted that and should have waited until they returned to the US so it doesnt affect everyone involved with the teams currently there.
What’s wrong with that?
if Daryl Morey speaking out in support of protestors is all it takes to put athletes well being in jeopardy, then those athletes shouldn’t be going to that country in the first place.
That is literally nothing though
I guarantee there are people that attack LeBron for his China comments that have other comments defending Kobe. Haters just hate
True haters hate on both of them!
Criticising people for speaking out on human rights abuses is nothing? Jesus Christ mate
lol bruh folks on Reddit are so unintentionally hilarious.
My brother in Christ, the entire fucking NBA sold out to China. The entire NBA.
So, you want to criticize China? Don’t be working for the NBA then!
Shits not hard.
I mean, I agree with Morey’s sentiments, just not Morey’s situational awareness. Should be pretty fucking obvious that the NBA has huge China contracts and thus the NBA employees (of which Morey was one) can’t be using the platform the NBA gives them to criticize China.
I can’t criticize China either, not under my real name. Because my start up company does business in China. Again, this shit is not hard.
Not to mention he did it while a large amount of the Superstars were in China. Of course non of them going to back him up while they are literally in the country.
China really is a fucked up dictatorship. I can imagine dudes being scared, and for good reason.
Morey could just work for somebody else and then speak his mind.
u/ElGoddamnDorado u/Enterprise-DeezNuts from what i remember at the time, while the statement itself seemed wack from bron i think part of it was the timing of it since when daryl said that there were hella players still in china on a league/brand trip and I think it was seen as leaving them in a vulnerable position?
China isn’t going to arrest nba players just because daryl morey criticized china in a tweet
Even cartoon villains don’t do that
I even give him points for settin’ Stephen A’s ass straight.
The only whiff of controversy I remember is some IG model saying he slid into her DMs or something. Seemed to get shut down pretty quickly tho, his PR team must work fast
Or maybe she didn’t have him in her dms. There are a lot of people who put their worth into social media….. Good or bad
There’s ig models that accusing clebs of sliding in their dm is their entire business model for attention
Several ig models. The one you’re thinking of was dating a Cleveland brown at the time too
Married to him, it was Rachel Bush
Yup exactly this. Lebron definitely got the best PR team.
If the worst thing LeBron has done is step out on his wife like 99% of professional athletes, I really think that’s not that big of a deal lol
Infidelity sucks, actually.
Did I or anyone else say or insinuate it was a good thing to do?
I’m more on the train of it being “not that big a deal” than you saying it was good cuz you didn’t. It’s still pretty shitty regardless.
The bar is low
NDAs get signed
There’s been a few of those. I remember there was also a swimmer at one of the Olympics.
He’s corny on social media and uses too many emojis. Really the worst think I could say about him off the court and that’s crazy for a guy that has been massively famous and successful since he was 16 years old
He’s got very real wine mom energy and I mean that as a compliment
His Instagram stories are hilarious, 1 workout at like 4 am then a dozen motivational quotes.
The corniness on social media reminds me that he’s 42 years old lol
And a father of 3 who got married young.
He is the corny dad to a t
The worst thing I can think of was in an interview lying about reading a book and they were asking him questions about. “He’s a really smart man” when talking about the author/book. Lmao yeah if that’s the worst he’s done that’s pretty squeaky clean
LeCapper
Remember when he read that book upside down? Literal terrorist
He’s definitely not as clean as his public image would have you believe. I know some people who’ve seen him do some things at private parties and if you’re from Toronto you know how he used to be at caribana lolll
Also the whole honk kong thing imo wasn’t great
Vagueposting
I’ve heard nothing but great things about Isreal as well.
I remember when people lost their minds when he rode a bicycle to practice. Seems bad!
Can you imagine if he ever wore a tan suit?
Yesjulz
He did goof on that one tweet defending the girl who tried to stab someone and got fatally shot by a cop.
CHINA SUPPORT DURING UMBRELLA DEMOCRACY PROTESTS
“Only heard great things” ABOUT ISRAEL DURING GENOCIDAL WAR IN GAZA
RANDY MIMMS AND OTHERS TANGENTIALLY LINK HIM TO PEDs
FAUX INTELLECTUALISM WITH POSING ‘READING’ BOOKS
FAILED ATTEMPTS AT “SOCIAL ACTIVISM” when he is merely a ballplayer, but isn’t actually helping grassroots black Americans in poverty
TAMIR RICE KILLED BY COP IN 2014 FOR PLAYING WITH TOY GUN, BIGGEST STORY IN CLEVELAND, BRON SAID ZIP-ZERO (allegedly would have “hurt his brand” to get involved)
PATHOLOGICAL LIAR (“I don’t know why I said that, but he might as well go for 80…” ; claiming Cavs took Warriors 6 games though Cavs had 2-1 lead among others)
China stuff was pretty lame
The graffiti on his mansion gate seemed like an inside job
“Oh Israel? I’ve heard nothing but good things”
Then there’s LeChina…
I don’t like how he uncritically praised Israel:
“Hopefully someday I can make it over there. I’ve heard nothing but great things.”
Nothing but great things? Really? About a country the International Court of Justice ruled is illegally occupying Palestinian territory and violating laws against racial segregation and apartheid? Whose leader is wanted under an International Criminal Court arrest warrant for crimes against humanity?
I mostly like LeBron, but that was definitely disappointing.
Atleast he’s not investing in Israeli military companies like Steph Curry
Steph has his own failings that are also disappointing.
Chuck was right with the “not a role model” stuff. If you’re modeling yourself after a basketball player, then there’s a good chance of disappointment.
Its not surprising when you realize hes a billionaire and friends with people like Jay z who have no problem selling out. Not to defend Barkley who would easily do the same thing if he wasnt a fat degenerate gambler
Yeah, the super rich are not typically known for their moral purity, that’s for sure.
He kept dominating the East like we were all bitches. Like bro take a year off
Didy party
Federer?
didn’t he just glaze israel like 2 months ago lmao
NBA fan normies don’t care about that.
Boomer Chuck makes fun of SA women and calls them fat, that’s what they like.
No he wasn’t lol. Charles was strictly talking about basketball and Lebron got in his feelings and started bringing up personal shit that had nothing to do with what Charles actually said. If he had mentioned the times Charles had tried to stack the deck in his favor by trying to team up with superstars, that would have been far more understandable then basically saying “Well at least I’m not a dick outside of work”
How much cognitive dissonance you have to apply to act like Bron didn’t talk about Barkley as a player in this clip?
I think it’s honestly a fair comment
Saying “I’m not a role model” doesn’t exempt you from being judged when you do something shitty
Honestly reminded me a lot of people who think by saying, “With all due respect” they can just say the most out of pocket stuff. Chuck was so oblivious for thinking being a famous public figure comes with 0 responsibility. That’s why you get paid the millions of dollars
You should at least quantify the respect that’s due.
“With all due respect, which is none” would go hard and not seem like a cop out.
That’s hilarious lmao, might need to start saying that
that’s the point of saying something rude after saying “with all due respect” the amount of respect due is conveyed by the thing thats being said
“All due respect, you got no fuckin’ idea what it’s like to be Number One. Every decision you make affects every facet of every other fuckin’ thing. It’s too much to deal with almost. And in the end you’re completely alone with it all.” - Kevin Finnerty
Well, no, they get paid millions because of the revenue they generate. The platform that comes with money and notoriety is a separate thing, one they can’t really escape, but it’s not an inherent part of the millions of dollars
“No offense, but” then they say the most offensive shit
I think it would be fair if Barkley was talking about personal character more generally and saying LeBron is a bad guy.
But, from the sound of it, Barkley was talking specifically about LeBron’s complaints about the composition of his team. And LeBron is using this whataboutism to deflect.
Nah, if LeBron had ANYTHING personal to attack, chuck and everyone else would be bringing it up daily. LeBron doesn’t have to take the high road when he can’t take a shit without objectively lesser players like barkley telling him how he should have done it differently
What is fair about it? Chuck critiqued Lebron on a basketball topic and then Lebron attacks his character? Is it always fair to bring up these same three items about Chuck?
Much of LeBron’s retort was related to basketball, including All-Star Weekend.
Calling somebody a whiner is a personal attack, even if it’s prompted by something basketball-related.
That line is enough for the trogladytes that worship barkley to turn off their thinking lmao
This was 9 years ago and chuck has doubled down since
Chuck is still salty over those comments by LeBron which is why he has been such a hater towards LeBron and the Lakers. The man literally said with a straight face that Darvin Ham and Westbrick were being made scapegoats.
It’s honestly hilarious that LeBron joined the 6ers because we’re going to find out this season that he hates LeBron more than he actually likes the 76ers lol
No, Chuck has just always hated the Lakers.
Explains why he was the only one on the planet picking us to beat them in 2011
He’s also a big fan of dirk and even tried to recruit him to his Alma mater
Living in Alabama and working for free? Missed opportunity
Not only Alabama, but in Auburn specifically. The city and campus are gorgeous but there’s nothing to do for dozens of miles in every direction.
It’s one of my biggest gripes with Chuck. Yes he’s ridiculously entertaining and funny. But he also is incredibly petty about LeBron and blaming LeBron for super teams. When super teams have been a thing since the 90s and Chuck infamously tried to make multiple of them. Like I said I like a lot of things about Chuck and nobody is perfect. But it’s definitely something that really annoys or bothers me about him. And I wish someone would call him out on cause maybe then he’d chill out on it
I never really got the impression that Chuck likes the sixers very much anytime recently tbh
It’s not either or. Chuck is a hater, but LeBron is known for being passive aggressive about teammates and coaches after a loss. They’re both humans and have character flaws
Thanks for the only reasonable response. People argue only in binaries, but the truth is often that everybody is somewhat right
His blame on players load managing is such a dumb take. No blame to teams wanting to “protect their investments” but puts it all on the players
No it wasn’t nine years ago it was in twenty sev… ugh
Charles said that LeBron didn’t want to compete cause he was essentially saying the Cavs needed another ball handler
That’s the context. Shaq had a nice segment when they responded to this, where the question was asked “he want all the good players?” And Shaq immediately said “your damn right I do. I want a knockdown shooter when I pass it out, or a lockdown defender going against someone’s #1”
The funnier context is that it wasn’t even like LeBron was even asking for another starter or all star. Dude just wanted a solid playmaker that could help the second unit off the bench lol
Fr it’s like ppl don’t realize for most of lebrons teams he essentially had to be running the offense or the team would just completely fall apart. Thats why I never understood ppl saying LeBron stacks his teams when 90% of the time if he wasn’t on the floor his squad would get their asses handed to them
Wade averaged 19ppg on 50%TS and Bosh averaged 12ppg on 49%TS in the 2013 Finals, “super team”
And in 2011 they played great but Bron sucked, so were they not a superteam then either? And they just held that huge pep rally for absolutely no reason at all?
2011 was certainly their most talented year, but they hadn’t figured out everything yet. If I recall, LeBron was even trying to change his body composition going into that year. It was a lot messier than people remember and pure talent papered over it a bit.
Feels like Wade’s knees just slowly fell apart after that season, though, and LeBron basically had to take over the team again.
In the finals sure but leading up it vs Philly/celtics and bulls he played great
And if he was stacking his teams, he was going up against the Warriors
Chuck might be the biggest and most incessant hypocrite in NBA history when it comes to criticizing LeBron, so kinda justified. That said, it was fucking insane he said this you’d think McMenamin ghostwrote this part lmao
Barkley was not giving a ‘basketball’ criticism, that was personal. He wasn’t talking about LBJ’s playing ability, he was talking about his personality and character, being whiny for saying the Cavs needed a playmaker.
Bron’s response was equally about Barkley as a person, and being a long time Barkley fan, Bron’s right. Barkley was an anti-hero as a player, one who I often defended in my MJ hater-dom. The shit Barkley did on and off the court was often difficult to defend, and Bron’s right, he doesn’t do any of that shit.
Barkley did the exact same shit as a player. Star players often piss and moan about the front office not giving them enough help. Barkley did this too. Barkley asked for a trade, and ended up going to the Suns with better talent, and then Houston, also with better talent. Pure hypocrisy on Barkley.
That being said - Barkley was doing his job, and the fact that this is being brought up years later, he did it well. LeBron’s response wasn’t really out of line, he called Barkely out on the same character bullshit Barkley was on.
It’s funny seeing the comments on this subreddit now compared to when this first released because the majority of people were on Charles side.
People also flock to Chuck because he’ll often end up criticizing somebody redditors dislike.
It’s bc Lebron PR been working on these young kids that didn’t grow up on Inside the NBA or were there for the majority of Lebron’s career.
Outside Reddit Chuck is a national treasure. He’s funny unfiltered and has always kept it a buck.
he’s loved for his comedic remarks. his bball takes are hot ass most the time
Right because the majority perspective of casual fans has never been wrong. Oh please, Chuck’s funny and honest but he’s routinely also wrong.
This is just the lebron propaganda machine at work and r NBA nephews doing their best to rewrite the narrative.
I’m not even a Lebron fan, but he’s clearly right about Barkley. I don’t know why Barkley and his shitty analysis is so beloved by the NBA world. He’s a moron.
Because he’s funny as hell and has incredibly based takes for a man of his age and economic status.
Yeah Chuck can similar simultaneously be an hypocritical asshole while have commendable qualities and opinions. People are so black and white on others it’s insane. People are complicated and imperfect.
This. I would never listen to Chuck’s analysis or take it seriously atp, i watch him cause he’s funny and entertaining as hell. If i want real analysis i can go on youtube or podcasts, thats the beauty of the internet
Chuck’s response to Lebron saying try this: https://youtu.be/Kxztz8-7u6o
I agree with shaq on this one tbh.
Yeah, if Charles was saying he thought LeBron didn’t want to compete or that he was whining that he didn’t have enough help, that needs to be juxtaposed against the fact that KD had just joined the Warriors. All of what Chuck is saying about how the Cavs were the defending champs and LeBron was the best player and all that, that’s irrelevant compared to what they were going to be going against with the KD Warriors.
RIP run through the tape. All time goat.
Yea I remember this being a “huh?” Moment towards LeBron. Charles was talking about basketball and LeBron went after Charles personally but never addressed what he actually said.
He said it. He addressed Chuck saying he didn’t want to compete.
To be fair, he’s not exactly addressing Barkley‘s criticism. He’s just trying to distract from it.
Ehh he was responding to Chuck essentially calling him out for not wanting to compete. LeBron was sick of people always taking shots at him and essentially responded with this
It’s kind of like that LeBron meme, where he said the “not you! Anyone else can talk, but not you!” To Sengun
It’s like when ur brother calls u fat, and u know ur fat but it pisses u off so u respond with an overly harsh personal attack bc ur feelings were hurt
Barkley response to this was also good
What was it
He threw him out a window
Turrible.
Defenestrated his ass forty times in a row! That’s as many as four tens. And that’s terrible
And then spit on Bronnie
Mannn Bronny was a kid back in 17
https://youtu.be/vzVfJZTSjtE
Very fair response from chuck
That’s no tall true… But most of it is lol
Nine years later, and all of his words still hold true.
Brons response there was weird. Barkley ultimately was talking about basketball. Bron making it about more then basketball and not actually responding to what Barkley said might work for some, but for me nah
It was a very emotional response. Folks are letting their hate of Barkley today cloud what at the time was a fair criticism and an off-the-wall response by Bron
He questioned LeBron as a player by saying he didn’t want to compete. LeBron essentially responded back that Chuck is the last one to be talking about being a bastioned for the NBA when I’ve been nothing but clean my entire career and done whatever I needed to do without causing issues
None of which actually addresses Barkley’s criticism. LeBron is right about everything he said about Barkley, but all of it is a deflection and not an actual rebuttal.
Ehh I got it at the time. Questioning me as a competitor and essentially my legacy… when you’re entire legacy is built on fat/out of shape/a terrible role model/ and throwing people through windows
any time you have to rely on ad hominem and attack someones character you’re making a bad argument. You could make the argument barkley is attacking lebrons character with the “you don’t want to compete” but he used the example of lebron wanting to play with better players/ making trades. Lebron straight up brought up irrelevent things from barkleys past rather than making an argument, I think it would have been better to stay quiet, as he would have fuelled his haters more with such comments.. its interesting to see this again, crazy he’s still playing too hahaha
I think the biggest problem to what chuck was what he said about “not wanting to compete”. Charles Barkley left two teams in order to win a ring with better players. Also you never hear in the NFL “wow Tom Brady wants to play with Randy Moss, does he not want to compete?”.
Where’s the lie tho.
Klutch spreading this all over all social media channels today. Dudes need to get a life. Soft as charmin.
YUP. Multiple posts of them yet again trying to spread his over hyped legacy narrative.
It’s been fucking rampant since he signed to Philly
Charles has always been a moron. Morons say dumb things.
Only negative about Lebron is how he and his team respond if you dint think he is the greatest..that and how he treats teammates thru the media when he wants a trade…
Give me an example of him treating teammates thru the media when he wants a trade
By using his puppet to make trade scenarios regarding his teammates
You can’t be serious
Crazy no one’s giving an actual response lol.
Shawn Michaels catching strays
Jesus I never knew Charles Barkley did all those shit. Thank you LeBron for letting us know this mf is really a piece of shit. 💩 🤣
Fuck Barkley. He’s a raging hypocritical hater. Can’t retire because he’s fucking broke ass wanker.
Queen James, dude is soft af
Nah LeBron was lame as hell for this, and it was a pattern of behavior on his part. He got in his feelings for a while and started making genuinely weird personal attacks over basic criticism. This was around the same time he tried to get everyone to believe Phil Jackson was secretly a hardcore racist.
Never knew Barkley spit on a kid before
Shit, throw Shaq’s lazy ass in the mix as well. I know they make for stupidness that Ernie and Kenny can make fun of easily, but it’s clear that they don’t even watch the game. Candace Parker goes on and regularly shows how low of a basketball IQ each of them have. Imagine if they got someone who could actually analyze a game and talk about the nuances.
When i hear people say that they watch college basketball because nba players dont care, it makes me wonder if they are basing off of these idiots.
Even if you believe they care leas, you can have that argument. However, whenever i watch college basketball, i am immediately reminded how these non-caring NBA players would trounce those guys, even if they were stuck playing night games on the road beforehand.
Going to play with Hakeem and Clyde wasn’t chucks’s attempt to stack the deck though. That’s a different thing
Bron ethered him 😳
nobody in basketball is ever mature enough to let a comment go
Charles Barkley channeling his inner Shawn Michaels? Once again that coward Janetty jumps out of another window
Charles is funny af, but I gotta always side with bron on this one. Le’clean
Honestly agree with Chuck 99% of the time regarding the NBA, the 1% being his takes on LeBron
Defenestrate: to throw someone through a window.
Barkley’s comments really must’ve hit close to home with the virulent response from Lebron which never really addressed what Barkley had to say not to mention Barkley at least kept it about basketball but Lebron (like a female) got in his feelings and went personal with it
Athletes shouldn’t be role models
So, I agree with Barkley. He’s not a role model. No athlete should be a role model for anything other than athletic prowess.
Same reason you don’t idolize musicians for anything other than their musical performances . Famous athletes and musicians are often not great people, just great at their profession
So to prove one media member who called LeBron “whiny” wrong. LeBron decided to use a different media member to lob a personal attack at the media member who dared to criticize him, while addressing none of the actual criticism…excellent.