Can anyone even afford that right now?

Imagine his shooting regresses next year like braun’s did

Incredibly nasty of OP to not spell out how much annually 5 years/70 mill is for all of us smooth brains in this app

Who does this guy think he is he had one good month lol

Sounds like a Kuminga situation coming. Sucks for Nuggets

he’s always injured and has literally only played well for about a month

even $70M is a massive overpay

bro just take the ²⁄₃₀ with a PO the next season

The 5th year makes the offer especially egregious, 25 a year is probably too much how much we’ve really seen from Watson but a 5th year on a deal that low is just screaming to take the QO.

Weed is legal in Colorado right?

My guy put up 14pts for a season and this is the valuation 🤭

Come on Pelinka do your thing

That’s a disrespectful offer from a team that gave Christian Braun ⁵⁄₁₂₅. Betting he’ll stay with Denver on a 1 or 2 year contract though.

This reminds me of summer of 2016 where JR Smith just refused to back down from his ridiculous contract demands. 

They think he’s worth $14m/year and yet they want other teams to give up multiple firsts for him?

Nuggets are now suffering from their championship payout where they just throw money at everyone to keep the team together. This seems to destroy teams ability to make moves in the future.

The GsW did this with Jordan Poole for like $30mill/yr.

Celtics overpaid everyone basically

You can say OKC did the same with Chet, Jdub, and Stein

Nuggets with Braun and Johnson

76ers with OG and Bridges

5 x \(25MM = \)125MM
\(125MM - \)70MM = $55MM
🤔

The 5 years 70m is crazy considering that’s less than the MLE and he could easily get that from another team on a shorter contract. Then he could get a bigger contract in UFA much sooner if he keeps up his play.

Draymond got 27

25 mill eh??? I wonder why it’s specifically that number. There must be some reason ….

Watson looked awesome during the regular season. But paying a big contract like that is risky when he’s still not completely proven as a player. Many players have had awesome stretches, yet aren’t worth anywhere near 25 million.

let him go bruh, another team can use him

An interesting somewhat related fact is that Zeke Nnaji — who has made \(18 million the past two seasons, slightly more than \)1 million per playoff point (combined 17) in those seasons — is owed \(7.5 million next season and then has a *player* option for \)7.5 million the season after that

Pwat is acting like he played in the playoffs

Meet in the middle 19.5 M/Year, S&T to the lakers

Wait. Is 15 and 5 a 25 mil a year number now?

PWat is a good player—25m aav is not crazy at all (the only thing is that he hasn’t done much in the playoffs). Just won’t work for the Nuggets anymore.

There are like a few teams that could use a ²⁄₃ starter? He’s close with KD. Rockets?

Also Nuggets, I’m definitely in the minority here: I think they should trade away all their starters not named Jokic or Cam Johnson.

25m a year for peyton watson? Thats insane, how could he think that? He is an interesting player but not at that price, thats more like a massive gamble.

Juuuuust a bit outside

He is not getting that much from Denver nor from other teams in a S&T. He has been injury prone for most of his career, has no proven ability to play in the post-season, and is playing with Jokic who makes everyone more efficient than the average player.

I don’t doubt he will be great, but he hasn’t reached that level of high-end role-player similar to guys like Jaden McDaniels imo.

i just wish someone would make a decision. this off-season has been exhausting.

months without a peep, then two back to back leaks: this contract offer deets and the news the nuggets were dropping sign and trade ask to potential suitors. This is a master class in leverage and leaks by the Nuggets FO. They could end up with a bargain here.

The 25 is pretty clearly calling out the Braun contract he would probably have accepted a 2 year deal with a PO at 20 per originally but then the Nuggets tried to lock him into a sub MLE deal for 5 years after waiting for teams to fill up cap space.

Mediocre role player. Similar to Braun in impact, just different skillset.

Nuggets want to compete but these aren’t the players but at the same time, there is not much options available.

Pressure with Jokic aging.

Nuggets unable to secure a better running mate than Jamal Murray for Nikola Jokic is a crime.

From what I understand the nuggets can still trade and do whatever they want.  2nd apron doesn’t kick in until later.  They can do moves to where they shed salary to get under the apron.  Now, what those moves are is the magic question. 

the restricted free agency mechanic is what makes this interesting. Watson’s $25M+ ask only gets him there through an S&T, because teams with the cap space to sign him outright would have to use most of it on one guy - and most cap-space teams are rebuilding and won’t pay up for a 23-year-old with injury history and a short sample.

so his actual leverage is: can he find a team willing to hand him a \(25M offer sheet and HOPE Denver doesn't match? Denver's second apron situation complicates the match - they might actually NOT match if they're trying to get under the apron, which is the rare scenario where Watson wins. but if Denver matches at \)25M, they’re just deeper in luxury tax territory.

the Nuggets’ offer of \(14M/yr isn't insulting, it's realistic given he's played fewer than 150 games total. the number of guys who've signed big deals off one good stretch and then regressed is real. Watson probably has a case for more than \)14M but $25M is going to require multiple teams bidding and that pool looks thin right now.

So am I

Denver might try to match offer sheet again

Avg nba salary for ¹⁴⁄₅ is 13 million

Isn’t this guy a Jokic truther? Thought this would be done by now.

The Nuggets front office over the year have massively overpaid their own players in the last few years. Murray is overpaid, Braun is really overpaid and Zeke Nnaji’ contract is an abomination. No wonder Watson thinks he deserves more, even if he has only had one great month in the league.

In Peyton Watson’s most recent playoff run he averaged 4.5 ppg, with 41/37/50 shooting splits over 14 games.

Yes, he looked awesome last winter for about 6 weeks.

I don’t blame Denver for being hesitant here…

They are idiots if they pay him. He is max 10 million player. MAX! :D Denver should stop paying people this kind of money - or at least to put in the contract that 25% of salary goes to Jokic.

He should take the deal.

Thunder made it an almost impossible move for the Nuggets. Watson should be on himself. Nuggets can’t afford anyone for the foreseeable future so worst case is he sign the same deal they are offering him now next year. Best case he proves he is worth the money and then gets to pick where he plays.

14m a year…that has to be a joke