Where was this negotiating pressure tactic during Braun’s extension? They shoulda offered him this contract too.

well hes taking the qo for sure if hes only being offered 11m a year for year 1

I know he’s gonna feel disrespected by that lol

A 5 year contract and you aren’t even touching $100M? Easy decline on his part

Presuming the contract includes 8% raises, that would give Watson a starting salary of \(11.9M for the 2026-27 NBA season. He’d be making only \)4.5M more than Zeke Nnaji next season.

Year 1: $11,931,952

Year 2: $12,886,508

Year 3: $13,917,429

Year 4: $15,030,823

Year 5: $16,233,289

14 mil a year? damn. That’s half of what Watson wants. I don’t blame Denver, he had hamstring 3 hamstring injuries in the span of 2 years.

bad contract

70 over 5 is crazy considering what Braun got and how bad he’s been since lol

He can take the QO and get the non-tax MLE from someone next year barring a major injury. This is a pretty insulting offer with both parties knowing there are teams out there willing to pay ~$20m/yr in a S&T

Well he’s not taking that. The QO screws them both but they aren’t giving him many options here.

This is an insult to Watson lol. Braun gets like 25M per yr lol. He got every reason to feel disrespected about this.

70M/5yr contract is so 2016 type of contract lol. Worst part of this contract is “for 5 yrs” lol.

And Nuggets really wondering why Peyton doesn’t want that?

Bruh $14M gonna be less than the MLE in 5 years

What year is this?

These are Dundon numbers. 

Nuggets fans in here saying Watson should take this because it’s still generational wealth.

It’s a starting salary of \(11M, that’s absolutely insulting for him. It’s like saying Shai should take \)30m instead of $50m on his next deal because it’s still more money than he could ever spend. It’s just not how contract negotiations at this level work at all.

Guarantee you he takes the QO before he locks in to ⁵⁄₇₀. Maybe he goes with a 1+1 or something, but he’s definitely not signing this

Come on Mr Rich Paul, we drafted Burries, we paid your boy Gary Trent, now get P-wat to weasel his way to Cream City

He’s not even getting Gary Trent Jr money?!

I told someone he’s going to get 15-17 mil a year because that’s what he’s worth, he had a good month and a half and got injured the rest of the time.

They said he’s worth 20-30 mil.

Crazy.

Take the QO for 7 mil and get a bag next year, or get locked into 14 mil a year for the next 5 years.

The answer would be clear to me, would just have to hope and pray its a healthy and productive season.

the nuggets front office is really going to waste the rest of Jokic’s prime. if Watson I would feel so disrespected by this offer by the nuggets front office.

The nuggets have certainly shot themselves in the foot a ton since I’ve been a fan. But I gotta say it feels like bad luck that Watson decided to have his first half a good season after not getting an extension.

Rich Paul for once, deserves to reject a contract with this nature

1 year to long, AAV is even less than the MLE. I reckon him signing the qualifying offer would certainly be in play for him. On a sidenote, I could just imagine the offer Duren is getting then from the pistons😂

He’s totally gonna sign with another team isn’t he 

“on condition of anonymity because the deal is not final.”

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That is straight disrespectful to him. He hasn’t every right to decline that option, they gave Braun 25M no problem. No way are they serious about building a championship winning team again.

He has a history of being injured and inconsistent (even in his college year he struggled or he would have never fallen to the Nuggets). He undoubtedly has talent, but he needs to prove he can stay on the court and play up to his skillset before he gets $20m+. Both sides are digging their heals in and trying to negotiate. It’s the business side of the NBA and he should know that.

This is likely a sign that there really isn’t a market for him this year above what Denver is offering. Because of his injuries, he would be smart to take the guaranteed money at this point. Holding out at the start of free agency was one thing, but a market for him is not suddenly going to materialize at the end of the summer and he is one hamstring injury away from being an NBA bench journeyman.

He gone.

That lockerroom is cooked

That’s one year longer but less per year than the MLE

Surely another team swoops him if that’s all they’re offering

⁵⁄₇₀? Fuck no. I’m not taking that either if I was him

No way they’re disrespecting him this much 😂

jesus what a lowball. What’s the QO like?

This cannot be possible if they want today be a championship winning look alike team

If the Nuggets have a concern with Watson they should not feel pressured to pay him. This idea that you need to resign players to avoid losing them for nothing causes bad contracts every year

It’s really tough because he’s inevitably gonna compare his deal to Christian Brauns deal (5 yrs / $125 mil).

Before this previous season, I think most Nuggets fans would’ve said CB was slightly overpaid, but still more important than Watson. He was more proven and the clear future starter at SG.

Then PWAT flashed some crazy potential this previous year when other guys were out with injuries. Like, good enough that you wonder if he should be the 2nd most coveted Nugget behind Jokic, with him only being 23 years old still. I understand why he thinks he’s valued highly.

Still… It’s a risky game declining that type of money in the NBA. One injury and he will probably never sniff that size of a contract again. Obviously as a Nuggets fan and hope he signs, but I don’t blame him for wanting more and considering other options

Meanwhile Patrick Williams is getting 5/90m

Everyone is under the impression that he’s getting better interest on the open market.

If the Nuggets are starting this low when he wants 28/year, that means that teams are not even coming close to what Watson wants.

They can start here, set the league expectation, and match a low-ball offer sheet of 20/year.

Maybe I’m just a lover of Peyton Watson more than most but I think anything 20mill and under has the potential to be a real good steal. The one time he has got opportunity as a starter, he fucking balled out. He’s a wing defender. To me it just ticks so many boxes. Even if it doesn’t work out, you’re paying this dude less than half a max.

I know we haven’t seen it, but if you look around sports a lot of contracts aren’t necessarily only based on what you’ve done, but what you can become also.

Like I compare him and Naz Reid (who I also love). Naz on what 25 mill a year? And he is basically a bench player for at least a couple of them (or was projected to be). That’s what it costs for a high level bench player in the nba. Josh Hart is on 20 mill a year. Peyton Watson is feel like at worst is what these guys are, and with even a tiny bit of luck you may get a huge amount of upside. Have him for 10mill less than what he could be worth.

Show me that player option tho

Hilarious to compare this to the thread last night. It was all “he’d be stupid to not take the money” last night and now people tonight are saying he should feel disrespected.

That’s so low…p

The deal is not final? That implies there is actually a chance he signs that. Honestly if that really is the offer, he’ll just sign the QO and hit free agency next year. Also, what do “league sources” know about offers? Isn’t this really just his agent trying to get the Nuggets to sign and trade him?

That’s a fair value contract for Watson

Lmao Clippers and Bucks fans were telling me Nuggets had no leverage.

No leverage my fuckin ass

Larry Bird once said he would never sign a Lebron team mate because he makes them look so good.

Outside of MPJ who is the same player but with more shot volume, I can’t think of another role player that has left the Jokicsphere and thrived.

I wonder if this has anything to do with him missing the end of the season. I don’t think there’s any real evidence for it, but this offer almost feels “retaliatory” if you will. On a team riding the injury tsunami, the one guy that’s not involved in playoffs is the one guy that’s expecting a bag in the off-season. Maybe FO didn’t like it and are forcing him into a Dennis Schroeder decision, take what can or prove you can stay healthy.

Lowball offer but if I’m the nuggets i might pass too. Feel like giving him a big contract is a huge risk

just give him a 2 year extension with a player option. Murray’s deal should be up at the same time so going forward they can give him a bigger deal if they let murray walk or trade him

He should get at least Patrick Williams money. So starting offer should be $17-18 per season then negotiate from there.

He’s only done it for like 50 games, take the money and if you’re really all that get the super max when you’re 28

Its unders, but can he really risk 70mill to get an extra 20 down the track?

If they can get the number to 80 he’d have to take it

He’s not taking less than 100 m’s after you just handed 125 to Braun lol

Double insulting bc the yearly average value isn’t great and they are trying to lock him down long term to it. Woof

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Honestly, I wouldn’t sign him such a long contract given he hasn’t proven to be healthy. He was out of playoffs last year, no?

I get why he would be mad when looking at other contracts, but I think is one of the more sensible contract offers relative to value

It’s not that bad of a deal, is it great? No but Watsons injury prone with 3 prior hamstring issues, has a lot of potential but that lasted a month before another injury.

If we’re being very honest anything more than this could end up being a worse Braun deal and would kill his value if they try to get rid of it

he better take it and run, he’s only played well for like 2 months of his career

Isn’t that less than the MLE? lol

This is the type of contract that people will
Either be like “wow thats insulting” or “wow he should have taken tbat money” in 3 years

That’s literally MLE money. Better off getting Klutch to get a team to offer a 2+1 PO he signs at the full MLE so he can be a UFA in 2 years and still have some guaranteed money

Literally half of what Keegan Murray got (⁵⁄₁₄₀).