Go to Sacramento, you coward!

LeBron’s first Finals run ends this conversation for me. Most people can’t even name a couple players from that team

I feel like there is definitely a lot of goomba fallacy involved in this. I personally think it’s probably the best team LeBron could realistically join but there are still issues with the team especially before he joined.

Always gotta change the narrative to fit their argument lmao

Different people have different opinions. Crazy right?

Jaylen Brown the guy people always pin against Tatum in terms of 1a/1b, Embiid the former MVP that was going against Jokic for best big man in the game, Maxey the guy everybody loves that can light it up ala Kyrie?

Can’t have it both ways.

I don’t even think the takes are mutually exclusive either if you define stacked as “having a lot of star players”. Teams can be stacked with stars but also be a weird enough fit where they’re not that good

Either he wins and he’s great. Or he loses and his teammates suck.

Think he’ll have more “fitted” suits come the fall?

He was swimming in his suits last year.

You are aware that when charles arrived in Philly thpse guys were too old and in Pheonix while very good due to the dominance of the Bulls he never was in the „Superteam“ that was expected to win it all. Also he got drafted to Philly that wasn’t his choice and has nothing to do with stacking. You can criticise a lot about Chuck if you want (especially his work ethic in the early days) but he never stacked the deck.

He literally got drafted to the Moses Malone, Dr J Sixers and made the conference finals his rookie year lol.

Chuck was traded to the Suns for multiple players. He stacked nothing there. 

Houston made the conference finals his first year there. It may not have been a success but it also wasn’t a fail and they weren’t winning anything with the bulls around anyway 

Yeah, imo, this was MJs best series, he was unconscious. That Suns team was stacked, and it took peak MJ performance to beat them.

That wcf was legendary. Kids online dont know how insane that wcf was.

Nope and chuck has never claimed to even be a top 10 player

I didn’t realize 41 year old Lebron is still in his prime.

This was his path to the goat title smh running from the grind Kings King James woulda been peak

Lowkey if he left 2021 seeing the writing on the wall with westbrook not working or the role players leaving whatever, joins the Kings with Haliburton, they trade Fox for a bigger defender/depth…

The needle will always move. People were saying it’d be a pivotal point in the GOAT debate if he were to carry the lakers out the first round without AR or Luka.

When he did it was crickets. I must state that I don’t care about the GOAT debate but at the same time the amount of credit he was supposedly due for what he did seemed to disappear once he actually did it.

Metal riff

That’s the craziest part about it and all the people and players that whine about Bron not being loyal. Mfs mention Curry, Tim Duncan and Kobe as players that stayed loyal, ignoring the fact that two of them got drafted on the best franchise teams in the NBA that had alltime greats like David Robinson and Shaq on them lmao. And even then, Kobe demanded a trade like twice.

And the other was drafted to a team that was lucky to draft well(Klay and Draymond). Curry was able to add an MVP worthy player to his team by his 7th year. By Bron’s 7th year, he got a washed Shaq.

It’s like a spoiled rich kid being mad about how a poor person ends up getting rich.

It’s sad how much these boomers try to argue against Lebrons greatness. And using the ‘stacked’ argument is the saddest of all. Like op said every championship team has been extremely talented.

This sub will do an absolute 180 on this exact argument depending on the player.

Both the Knicks and the warriors were way more stacked than the 23 Nuggets and 21 Bucks teams lol

Knicks starting 5 was very stacked..

Still a lot of depth on both squads. The dubs won through brilliant team basketball, the Knicks through grit, Brunson being a psychopath, and the power of friendship.

They were all CONSIDERABLY younger than Lebron

What does that matter? He did it to ring chase, same shit he’s complaining about here.

Who’s the starting center for the Sixers?

It’s literally mentioned in the Last Dance lol

Remember when they said he went to the Lakers to play Hollywood, lmao. It’s always something with sports media when it comes to LeBron.

If you try to field a competitive team, you’re stacked

lebrons teams have always been stacked thats why the year after he leaves them theyre always still successful

2011 cavs: 19 wins

2015 heat: 37 wins

2019 cavs: 19 wins

Cavs traded for love to get the big3 lebron wanted. AD to the Lakers was probably pre-planned as well. Although lakers weren’t as stacked.

Kevin Love received MVP votes the year before LeBron had the Cavs trade for him, Kyrie was a back-to-back All-Star when LeBron got there, JR Smith was a year removed from a Sixth Man of the Year then there was another three players who had received 6MOTY votes the year before behind them.

That was a stacked roster, Warriors were just historically stacked at the same time

They were extremely stacked, there just happened to be an even more stacked team out there.

Yeah and he played an entire season without AD. Do people already forget he joined the post-Kobe baby Lakers? Bron straight up swooped in and saved us from another 5-6yrs of lottery-bound irrelevance.

When he signed here the narrative was “LeBron’s not serious about winning, he just wants to live in Hollywood” but apparently a couple years pass and now he had a “stacked team” lmao

Edit: Chuck’s literal first take on the LeBron signing: “…I think he’s he’s older, you know, he wants to be probably in the sunshine to finish up his career. He’d probably want to be a little bit more competitive…so LeBron to me was the easy piece, now comes the hard piece…everybody in the studio was talking like, “Oh okay he’s going to the Lakers, what’s next?”

I don’t even get the ring chasing take. He has 4 rings and 10 Finals appearances. If wanting to sign with a team with a chance to win is ring chasing, then most free agents are ring chasing. Is Giannis ring chasing? What about Wemby with his extension? Lebron is still a winning player. He should want to win.

The better point is that MJ, the guy we’re all comparing him to, had the greatest team/coach on earth for 7 years

You guys always say that but players always say this

People have been mad at him for not taking a pay cut the last couple of years in order to get more help , “he’s a billionaire why does he still need so much money “ and now when he does take a pay cut people are mad at him it’s honestly a sickness at this point

fallacy of extremes. Yes, he’s not worth 60million. But he’s also not worth 4 million. We can argue with a bit nuance, hopefully.