I’ll always respect the honest approach - I feel like some orgs outright deny the trade rumours to the player’s face and then suddenly they get traded out of nowhere. At least Tyler knew not to agree to a 2 year lease.

The Pau Gasol conundrum

There is a reason why Riley has been doing this for 40+ years.

I think being tradable is both a blessing and a curse. It means you have value, but it also sucks to not know what kind of situation you are in. Herro just hated how he was good enough to trade, but not good enough to be untouchable. He wanted Bam’s value in the organization, but it’s pretty clear Bam has always been a much better player and Herro struggled to accept that.

Herro is just like 99% of the league and it drove him crazy.

And that difference between what you perceive your value is and what the league thinks your value is, will drive to say dumb stuff unless he has the maturity to handle it. Herro was just too delusional about his worth for him to be happy.

Must have been a real slap in the face for Herro

” I trust you so damn much that I trust you on another team more than ours”

Riley is honest at least 

shooting old yeller out back vibes

Expecting loyalty out of players in american sports where players have minimal power and can be sent 5000000 miles away without approval, move their entire family is hilarious brain dead

American sports have zero loyalty

miles turner was in rumor mill for years. then he left and they hated him for it lol. loyalty is an illusion.

Yeah I mean that would weigh on anyone. And while I’m sure there’s an element of relief for Herro that it’s over with, still probably sucks to feel like you weren’t valued by your team.

But in any case whether it’s the Bucks or someone else, Herro should make several more millions in his career

Pat Riley ordered Bam to beat up Herro confirmed

The loyalty bullshit is the same in the nba as it is in our real life jobs.

At the end of the day we only traded him for a top 5 player. We didn’t do him dirty.

It’s why I never have a problem with a player prioritizing themselves above the team. The team is damn sure going to priortize their own interests.

You’re a bad man Pat Riley

Tbh as a GM just tell any player you decide to max, outside of your cornerstone, that because they are getting that max (generational wealth) they will immediately be on a cap crunch timer from that point on. Your days are numbered but let’s enjoy the ones we still have left with eachother.

The truth is that even when teams are loyal and do whatever they can for a player, that’s doesn’t mean much if the moves don’t succeed.

In a zero sum game where your season is considered unsuccessful unless you win a title, loyalty is fickle from everyone.

To be honest, most jobs are like that. They tell you to be loyal and to work hard but would fire you/ lay you off at any time without a second thought.

Didn’t Harden just say something about this not too long ago? Loyalty is overrated?

Here is the loyalty is underrated clip Youtube

honestly respect riley for being straight up about it. most gms just say the right things to the media and ghost the players. herro got mentioned in like every trade rumor for 3 years straight lol

Can he just say, “we’d like loyalty from you, even though there isn’t loyalty from our end. In exchange for the imbalance, you’ll be making $40m a year.”

Damnnn. The Godfather spoke the cold words that should not be spoken.

Raps fan, thinking of this type of situation, knowing you’re the piece that makes sense to move has to be draining.

Ex. Ochai Abagi, his contract was the one that needed to be moved to get below the tax and unless a bigger trade worked out it was always going to be him.

That has to be a brutal way to exist on a team where there is nothing you can do, beyond a miraculous improvement in your game, to stop the inevitable and you still have to show up every day and try and compete for an org. that has setup their books that you’re the fail safe.

Like when management talks about focusing on”Team” and “Loyalty” as core values right after a round of layoffs.

Just a job, it’s why players shouldn’t go out of their way for fans or the community.

At least he’s honest, 40+ years in the business

Look what they made me do to my boy!

“We’re all trying to find the guy who did this”

TIL bold-faced lies are “contradictions in sports”. Next time I buy a car I will be ready for the “contradictions in car purchasing”.

The beginning of it had me thinking he was talking about Lebron.

It’s part of the game….

Its like when you become a cop or a firefighter but you don’t think you’ll ever get involved in some day getting shot at or going into a burning building

Or if you’re in a relationship that some day a divorce or breakup with a GF could possibly happen

Myles Turner lived this the entire time he was on the Pacers too…

then dont “preach loyalty and trust”, cause that shit is just straight up a lie

Kind of like Paul Allen’s sister selling team to so scumbag saying she is loyal to fanbase without any clauses preserving the team locally. Meanwhile phil knight was willing to be loyal to portland.

Myles turner

This is why I never blame players for being selfish. For any reason.

Ultimately, the team has no loyalty to the player. Any pretense of loyalty is because there’s some other benefit.

Riles saying the quiet part out loud

Rather this

If you hear the whole part where he talks about leadership, including the one in the title, then I posted it for you on Streamable

Most of ya’ll are completely missing what Riley’s saying here lmao

like, completely missing.

Reminds me of the Clippers making that Pioneers mural to get Blake Griffin to re-sign, only to trade him half a year later.

Snip snap snip snap

Loyalty is big in professional sports, but it’s a business first and foremost and has been this way for a very long time. It’s honestly shocking to see so many players have trouble comprehending this.

It doesn’t help that somebody on Reddit will come along like “why is the team allowed to trade you whenever they want but players aren’t allowed to play where they want?!?!?!?”. Well Mr Mouth-breather, because the team just paid this player generational wealth money in exchange for owning the rights to their NBA career for X number of years. They can play them, sit them, or trade them. That’s literally what they paid for the right to do, cupcake.

On the flipside you have people like Aldridge preaching loyalty and trust all to leave in FA and screw the franchise that loved the hell out of him.

Trolly learned a lesson about fax machines and loyalty

The irony is thick when the guy you just traded for did this in Milwaukee for three years.

That poor millionaire.

We are all at risk of losing our jobs, and most of us aren’t going to be shipped off to a new eight-figure salary when it happens.

An underrated part of the Thunder’s success I think is how no one on that team is really on the block at any given time. Thunder really limit their trades, and they tend to try and take care of the guys they trade by sending them to good situations. Makes it easier for guys to commit to the team-first approach

Jimmy butler and now Herro. The Heat have been in the play in basically every year and have not won a title since 2013 when they had Wade, LeBron, Bosh… I’m tired of hearing about Heat culture… you can talk about your culture when you win a title without a super team being gifted to you