In light of MJ and Barkley’s reconciliation, here’s a clip of Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas’ burying the hatchet
Wasn’t Isiah the one player that was outspoken about not being afraid to share a court with him after the HIV diagnosis? It was still very stigmatized in that time and everyone was afraid of being near him. Maybe I’m misremembering it.
Also suggested only gay people get HIV.
Idk if you were alive or in tune at the time, but that was very much the media narrative. Not an informed or charitable thing to say but it’s not like saying that now, which is straight up hate
I am an ‘87 guy, obviously too young at the time but learned of it more in depth around my teens.
All the same, media is one thing. Fans is another. IT should have been better than them to someone he knew personally.
How the fuck is this downvoted? IT was talking shit when he could have gone to Magic and talked this out in private.
Wait I didn’t know that part? I thought he was on his side, did he eventually make bad comments about Magic? At first I thought Isiah was his only ally in the league at that time
barkley was his ally, zeke implied magic was gay. barkley said he wouldnt play if magic couldnt because its not like he was having sex with him on the court
Common Charles Barkley W
Barkley is a gentleman. In or out of the steam room
Tbf ppl thought if magic got a open wound on a court or general body contact or something they were in huge danger
I dont think a 1990 nba player was unjustified for not wanting magic on the court.
U know little about aids, you see what aids does to people and i dont think you want to die.
Magic Johnson is the reason for the modern blood rules still present today. Its what made players feel safe playing with him
I remember Karl Malone was being a real bitch about it. Just another reason to not like that fucker.
I remember Karl Malone was a huge bitch about it
So just Karl Malone
He’s a fucking HUGE piece of shit.
Don’t forget the statutory rape.
by that point, the mode of transmission was well established
To doctors not the general public. Magic is a big reason this changed
But even doctors said there was a non 0 chance you could get aids playing with magic because of the chances of cuts or etc. its why we have the modern nba blood procedure rules
wheres your source for that? ryan white was a poster boy for Hiv and AIDs awareness as a young boy who got hiv thru a blood transfusion, this was national news and it was already established that it comes from unprotected sex, primarily between men so it was very well known by the public
it was already known it cant transmit thru saliva and that a small cut wouldnt have a viral load to be contagious
Dude theres a lot of studies that show magic has a huge impact on aids and sex.
“Sixty percent of respondents reported that Magic Johnson’s announcement had increased their awareness of AIDS”
Few links
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8726887/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7593993/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1472415/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12857654/
did i say he didn’t? he among others like ryan white and rock hudson made people take the disease more seriously.
that was never the argument tho sooooo?
lol it wasn’t well known. Hell, I’m sure HIV positive people today would have some people avoiding handshakes if they knew. People are, for the most part, pretty stupid. I remember during the height of the swine flu, my family went out to eat Chinese food and we brought along one of my mom’s friends. She asked something stupid like is the food clean because she heard swine flu came from China. We all looked at her dumbass for daring to say that.
bruh they stopped calling it GRID for a reason and it was literally called an AIDs epidemic on national news. and prominent figures like rock hudson (good friend of reagan who ignored aids up to that point) died and made people aware. how would people have not known?
its just ignorance
No definitely wasn’t established to the general public. People commonly didn’t want to be around someone with HIV.
thats just called ignorance. not that it wasn’t established bc it def was by the 90s
no diff from anti vaxxers who believe they know more than the experts
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yeah ignorance was the primary driver. im just saying by that point it was no longer called GRID and it was known how it was transmitted. doesnt stop people from being paranoid weirdos
Damn, Barkley was strong to come out with that.
Does he only pretend to stupid today? In his youth, he’d have very clever remarks attributed to him all the time.
i dont think he pretends to be stupid. he says things not everyone agrees with, but that doesn’t make him stupid as I’m sure you have your own thoughts and opinions that don’t immediately make you stupid
hes just himself and its what led to his success
I think he’s one of the greatest sucess stories in human history, I also think he pretends to be an idiot on TV.
I’ve heard about the conditions of his childhood, and I’ve heard about how reflective he can be in interviews. He’s also spoken in support of trans people, bless the man.
Edit: I should also add that Thomas is a creep, look at the allegations against him
idk its hard for me to think hes putting on act when he acts genuinely the same off camera. and i dont really interpret any of it as “stupid”
its just authenticity bc he doesnt care what anyone thinks, not even his own bosses, sure he makes old head takes, but again, its just an opinion, nothing i’ve seen from him suggests that he’s dumb, especially considering how vocal he tends to be about current issues
He could be incredibly articulate when he was younger, he just doesn’t take himself as seriously anymore. Maybe I’ll understand more about this when I’m his age after I’ve had a career that has people agreeing that I was one of the greats in my chosen field. I like that he’s vocal, he’s not a bloody coward. I just wish he would watch more basketball, he seems bored quite often.
yeah it is a bit lame he seems uninterested in watching basketball. i dont blame him for having fun tho, life is short and why take things so seriously all the time if you can help it? it beats being sad or angry but i dont think enjoying fun or not taking yourself seriously means that you’re being dumb
Isiah has said some so much dumb shit over the years from his playing days onwards. It is hard to remember everything. But publicly he supported him initially but after missing out on the Dream Team she said some dumb shit about Magic is what the story was around the time according to my uncle (i was a little too young and out of the way to follow basketball like that then.
Just an fyi, I am glad they buried the hatchet all the same, but IT is no victim
I think Isiah said some stuff like what other straight people you know that have it
barkley is the guy who is usually brought up
Barkley too was very supportive. Even changed his number to honor magic
Yea, this clip always gets me. Zeke was the one that needed to apologize here and he’s just sitting there crying like a little girl.
I saw that as relief from — apparently — finally being forgiven for being a shitty friend.
Bird was also there for him as well
I think that was Barkley- he said it in a much more explicit manner though.
I’m actually thinking it was the opposite? We should probably get this right for top comment
The circlejerk plug, followed by r nba
baaahhhhhhhhhhhh 🤣
I think it’s a perfect representation of how the two subs will reconcile eventually.
Isiah Thomas, much like the circle jerk sub, is the misogynistic, predatory representation of evil.
Magic, on the other hand, is the polished, beloved version that has aids.
Wait… I have aids?
You didn’t think everyone here was making all these comments on their own right?
I’m not crying you’re crying
Actually Magic and Isiah are crying
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I remember hearing about how when my grandmother was getting older her sister told her she should bury the hatchet with her estranged stepdaughter. My grandmother’s response was “Oh I’ll bury the hatchet. In her BACK.”
Michael Jordan buries the hatchet into Isiah Thomas
Forgiveness is one of the most powerful things a human can do
Can anyone chime in on what happened? I wasn’t aware Magic and him had beef. Only knew about him and MJ haha
Something about Jordan telling Magic he didn’t want Isiah on the USA team and Magic obliged. Or something similar. Either way it strained their relationship
Magic has explicitly said that this did not happen. Jordan never told him this.
Won’t stop people from repeating. Magic has always quashed that when suggested. It was more to do with Magic getting HIV and IT’s behaviour towards him after that that their friendship fell apart.
True but at the end of the day its he said he said. Just glad they repaired the relationship all these years later
100%
Either way we both saying what other people said. I just repeated what Isiah said and you repeated what Magic said 🤣. And logically speaking we both know IT was supposed to be on the Dream team so something not adding up
Isiah never said this either.
Isiah questioned Magic’s HIV status and questioned his sexuality. That was the origin of their beef.
A simple google search shows you that IT said that.
A quick google search shows that IT denies ever saying that and that magic heard it from his agent. Magic apologized for letting a great relationship fall apart over rumors.
thats not what isiah said tho
Huh? How would you think they “know” he was supposed to be on the dream team? The other NBA players were much better players, in 1992.
Shit this always gets me every time
Same
Lmaooo the r/nbacirclejerk plug 😂
MJ and Barkley reconciliated?
One day we’ll get a Will Smith/Chris Rock special like this. Idk when, but one day.
lol nah it’s not like they were boys to begin with, totally different
Good point
On another day we will get Willard Carol Smith II/Jada Koren Pinkett Smith come to Jesus moment. /S
Now we gotta get Mike and Scottie to reconcile. Don’t want these guys fighting, especially with all the history they had.
Every fucking time
Has anyone got clips of Rodman and Malone reconciliation?
Still makes me sad that MJ forced him off the dream team and that IT is from Chicago.
That has been confirmed 10000x its not true
Can’t wait for the next clip where Larry Bird is burying the hatchet into Bill Laimbeer
Beautiful. This gives me hope MJ and Isiah can someday sit down and let the past go.
Got news for everyone…Zeke will give you all the smiles AND kisses if necessary - BUT don’t turn your back on him for a second HE will always remain bitter ITS just his DNA is who he is
Jordan and Barkley were cool.
Magic and Isiah were famously best friends and would kiss each other every game against each other.
Those kisses are probably the main reason people thought Magic was in the closet when he announced his HIV diagnosis.
Yeah .. no I still hold grudges fuck that
I’m not making light of the fact that Thomas is crying, I get this is emotional for him.
I feel like his ego is so damn fragile. He was a “bad boy” Piston. He walked off the court without showing sportsmanship. He wanted to be compared to Jordan and Magic and was a fantastic player in his own right. But he seems to be a bitch to his peers and then expects apologies or recognitions from them.
well this is certainly an opinion. Nobody’s perfect man.
Lol Jordan did so much damage
So when’s MJ and Isiah gonna do it?
it’s hard to reconcile when they were never friends in the first place
Get a room sheesh
MJ caused so much damage
Their beef did not start with MJ.
The beef between Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas has nothing to do with MJ.