If shit like this were on discovery channel, I’d watch. 

The point isn’t to win, the point is to make the people who revealed this unflattering story pay a lot of money in legal bills.

“We were NEVER tracking them because they’re gay or not cisgendered, your honor. We tracked EVERY celebrity and THEN classified them as gay, or black, or liberal, or genderqueer. This isn’t a malicious database. This is a conscious and respectful attempt at understanding the diversity of high profile people who attend a Knicks game, and attempting to make it the most comfortable and welcoming experience possible.

We like to imagine that Tyga would find it to be immensely respectful that we keep data that allows us to deny Donald Sterling purchasing seats near Tyga, and instead force him to purchase seats in the region with the highest concentration of people from Staten Island.”

I’m guessing their attorneys told them this was a really bad idea, but there’s only so much you can do about a foolish client.

Meh- it’s a fake lawsuit. It’s basically a press release- the article never said that LGBTQ+ status was specifically tracked for the purpose of discrimination. They’re pretending like that was the conclusion when it wasn’t because some people definitely took it that way. And Dolan is too fragile and dense to accept that people judge unnecessarily tracking people’s data harshly regardless of how its being used.

Off topic but when i was younger, I watched some movies where the lawyer brings out some evidence at the last minute in dramatic fashion to win a case and i believed that’s how it usually goes.

Then years later watched some other more realistic court room dramas and talked to friends pursuing law that you actually get what the other side had found in discovery. And you can’t just swoop in with a new thing at the last minute. Unlikely that this will go to the full extent, they’ll probably just settle at some point.

It won’t get that far

It would be a real shame if in the discovery process for endorsements they find one titled “JB11_Aspire” and they just happen to let their friend Pablo peak over their shoulder.

James Dolan and balmer are VICTIMS!!!

They do and I believe theres a fee shifting provision for the attorney fees (which will be six figures). Drop in the bucket for Dolan unfortunately 

Those are the laws protecting journalists against frivolous lawsuits, right? I didnt realize they were state-specific

WIRED has poked an unruly bear who is used to getting what he wants. Everyone in NY knows people in the MSG universe—they own venues elsewhere here—and no one I knew thought they had started behaving one bit better since the surveillance programs surfaced and the Oakley coverage began.

how can she slap?!?!

I just watched the Channel 5 video about their lawsuit and SLAAP coverage. Our law system needs a revamp yesterday.

How can she SLAAP?

And we will see what the truth is now that its going to court. I’d be surprised if Dolan would take it that far if there was a smoking gun here.

Don’t tell that to the one of the only rich guys to lose a sexual harassment lawsuit 

Yep. What they wrote was wildly speculative and probably misleading, but not defamatory. The list MSG kept included people they invite to events all the time, including guys like Ben Stiller who they give their best tickets to for the best events. But it also included a DO NOT HOST marker for people who were never to be given anything.

I would expect a quick settlement with an addendum to the article online or an apology, but no money to change hands.

And if discovery shows that they weren’t actually using the data for discriminatory purposes?

His speech at the parade was so stupid. Instead of being positive, celebrating the championship, and being for the team he tries to make a remark to attack the mayor. Instead of celebrating the championship he had to attack the mayor. He doesn’t care about basketball. He just cares that he has something people like and wants to try and rub it in every ones face. Thats the same thing he’s doing with his sphere. 

Trust me, we’re bummed about it too.

“for show” includes requiring the target to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars retaining lawyers or paying billable hours to research and file responses

the point is the financial pain and scaring off other media who doesn’t want to deal with a suit, not winning this suit

I’m sure there are a LOT of NY Celebs who would be very interested in knowing what data Dolan was in fact collecting.

I love how instead of addressing this point or how they used to it to plan and host events in the lgtbq community you just laugh as if it’s ridiculous and don’t present any additional information of anything of value.

It is fun to dunk on Dolan, but that is the likely reason. Ben Stiller was on the same list, and he is a guy who gets to go to any event he wants.

It was a large table of data that included people they invite all the time to get publicity, with a lot of different tags. The Rangers and Knicks still have pride nights and bring in theme friendly celebs for those events.

“We’re joining Flock and ICE in our efforts to shred the 4th Ammendment of the United States by surveilling any paying customer that walks through our doors…for inclusion!”

it’s almost as if billionaires are out of touch with reality

That city would never give him any.

And not even “immediately” as hyperbole, like, fucking as IMMEDIATELY as possible 

While the arena acknowledged keeping information on celebrities’ sexual orientations, it said the purpose of this information was “to further inclusion” by inviting LGBTQIA celebrities to supportive events, identifying sales and sponsorship opportunities, and facilitating donations and community outreach. The information was kept in mundane customer service and relations software alongside other information like birthdays, favorite sports teams and other ordinary fields for routine business purposes, MSG said in the complaint.

The Knicks and Rangers both hosted Pride nights. If they did this tracking as a way to ban LGBTQ people why would they host events highlighting…. LGBTQ people?

The less he manages the Knicks the better they do. A smart owner knows when to get out of the team’s way, but Dolan’s ego doesn’t allow for that. Supposedly he only brought on Leon Rose because he got distracted with his Vegas Sphere project. Now that they’re champs I worry if the eye of fucking Sauron is going to turn back to MSG.

Ha?

They have to prove not only that it isnt hapening (which they cant) but also that Wired knew it was false and reported it anyways. They just threaten to try and get a settlement, but Wired isn’t the MSM and doesnt just cave in like those spineless clowns. See you in court!

I dont think they can prove it. What Wired wrote cited facts, and was otherwise wildly speculative and probably misleading, but not defamatory. I think they wrote it specifically to make Dolan and MSG look bad, but did not step over the line into illegal. But given the expense of a lawsuit, they are probably seeking a public apology or notation on the story stating that the information was not kept for any negative purpose.

My guess would be the “risk level” portion is what they key in on and trying to prove it was discriminatory (if this even makes it to trial).

We may find out soon. Outside looking in Wired made pretty ridiculous accusations. This is “journalism” unfortunately. The burden of proof is not really there other than there are loose guidelines of journalistic integrity and ethics taught in schools.

Of course they do. It gives incredibly valuable information about how and where to advertise and market the events. It would actually be insane if a company that does this much production and marketing didn’t keep track of the sexuality of the performers. If I were an agent and I found out that they didn’t know that my client might appeal more to an lgbtq fan base I’d be pissed off. The story was a total hitpiece.

Well, maybe a little, but that’s not the case according to either party.

Wired found an MSG database of venue VIPs affixed with labels that include a risk assessment that goes from “flag,” meaning low risk, alongside labels such as “low risk,” for celebrities including Edie Falco, Tracy Morgan and Ben Stiller and “medium risk,” such as rappers Jadakiss and Fat Joe. Rapper Lil Jon and Da Baby are reportedly considered “high risk.” https://www.them.us/news/madison-square-garden-lgbtq-surveillance

Going by historical precedent all the lawyers in the Conde Nast legal team will be banned as well.

There is a list. Why wouldn’t there be a list?

No it doesn’t lmao

if that were true why is Dolan/MSG being sued for tracking and allegedly discriminating against a random trans woman

Why?

A is asexual I is intersex

intersex and asexual

allen iverson dumb ass

it’s ai in spanish

Intersex and Asexual/Ally.

Intersex, asexual…

Historically, people falsely assumed that most people were “normal” and that normal people were kinkless heterosexuals, fully “aligned” in their sense of sex/gender/identity/expression.

Nowadays we know better. We recognize that sexuality is a spectrum, gender is a social construct, and everybody’s a little queer in their own way. Hell, even the concreteness of biological sexual identification is being challenged.

Hence, using words that don’t match one’s personal sense of sexual identity/attraction may cause great psychological discomfort and feelings of isolation. So the LGBTQIA+ movement has been naturally pushed to associate itself with several acronymic letters. So far, it’s been the only way to make everybody happy.

The author probably isn’t a billionaire tho, hard to live without working so

I’m old enough to remember when the b was added and the ls and gs weren’t all happy about it.