Jeremy Lin assists Yang Hansen in film study
Jeremy Lin’s chinese has improved so much! He speaks really good Mandarin with a Taiwanese accent and I don’t detect much accent here as a Chinese American with family from Shanghai.
First thing I said too. He used to be so bad at speaking Chinese lol
Yeah it’s very impressive he sounds like someone from Taiwan. Most ABCs have an American accent even after years of trying to improve Mandarin.
American-Born Chinese for anyone else about to google
Had my brain trying to come up with some bullshit
I legit took it as slang for a sec
Me too lol, came up with American based Chinese
Which is pretty close honestly. I actually enjoy trying to figure out unknown acronyms. I’m usually right but I would have never figured this one out.
I learned this from Shang Chi lmao
Most Taiwanese ABCs I know have good tonal pronunciation but no vocab. Like I can order all my favorite foods, but can’t introduce myself.
I assume it helps a lot that he has been living in China/Taiwan a bit over the past few years
He used to be so bad at speaking Chinese lol
This is my first time hearing him speak chinese and I immediately thought “Oh, he must have grown up with parents who taught him Chinese. That’s cool.”. He sounded super fluent to my ears and I’m shocked to see people saying he used to be bad at speaking Chinese.
He was quite bad at speaking it in the past, he was barely able to get through 2 sentences without mixing in some English.
Now he sounds much more fluent and his vocabulary is also much improved, but that ABC accent is obvious to anyone who has heard how native Taiwanese people speak.
The secondary benefit of him balling in Taiwan with his bro. I think he even did song in Mandarin although written by MC Jin
Someone has to point out the differences in Chinese dialect for me to be able to maybe hear the difference. I speak 0 chinese.
You can get some crazy differentiation. Shanghainese legit sounds like they’re swearing at you half the time. Cantonese sounds like a completely different language too.
This isn’t even a different dialect but just the accent. If you ever heard someone from China speak chinese and someone from taiwan speak chinese, its very obvious. IIRC, fujian province do have the similar accents to taiwan but by and large they differ greatly from region to region. The obvious one is the tongue curling “儿” “er” sound you hear in beijing.
Jumping on yotube and listening to a taiwanese and a mainland chinese speak chinese, and you’ll see its very apparent
i mean canto is actually a completely different language so
I agree but have heard it classified a lot as a regional dialect too which i guess is more from political and cultural reasons.
Just want to point out that in Cantonese we probably are swearing at you all the time lol
Yeah, I live in HK so i hear dllm and other colorful swearing on a daily basis
Shanghainese, Cantonese, and Hokkien (Fujian’s local language that in Taiwan English speakers would call Taiwanese) are different languages than Mandarin. It’s much more than just a different accent - both the tones and vocabulary are completely different. Even Shanghainese, which in theory is “closer” to Mandarin than Cantonese, only shares about 1⁄3 of the vocabulary and is unintelligible to a Mandarin speaker who isn’t from Shanghai.
Southern China as a whole has a different accent than the North, and they share some habits with Fujian and Taiwan like turning “sh” sounds into “s” sounds.
Cantonese is a completely different language, 🤣.
I live in HK, I agree
Its often classified as a regional dialect though for political and cultural reasons.
The internet tells me that Cantonese and Mandarin speakers can’t understand each other, how true is that? Portuguese and Spanish situation are different languages too but at least speakers can understand each other.
He’s speaking flat like when he speaks English. Taiwanese usually has certain ups and downs in the tone when speaking.
I guess he got ready to learn Chinese
It’s more of an ABC accent but it’s gotten much better for sure
Not sure how long he spent in the CBA but I’m sure that helped.
I mean its 6 years in the CBA. And he grew up at least learning and hearing his family speak, not like he was starting from nothing.
His mandarin was really bad when he was in the NBA. He really improved a lot.
6 years in china/taiwan leagues does help LOL
plus he probably wanted to learn for endorsements, since even non chinese players are learning it lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6ElG8uMhA
Yes, of course I am not doubting it. Hell my summer vacations for a month in Taiwan back when I was in highschool improved my Mandarin a lot.
for sure his listening comprehension was already native-like. he’s a smart guy and spending significant in the motherland and having endless opportunities to speak put it all together
I also grew up in a Chinese family and after I went to college - my speaking became absolute trash. smh. I do think I could learn it fast if I lived in Hong Kong for 6 years though.
I do think I could learn it fast if I lived in Hong Kong for 6 years though
Uh Standard Mandarin maybe not, but you’ll be very fluent at swearing in Cantonese in about 6 months
Oh my parents were from Hong Kong so we speak Cantonese. Sorry that wasn’t clear in my original comment.
About two years in CBA and then two more years in Taiwan
Generally Chinese diaspora from non mainland speak a more neutral Mandarin tone and are easier to understand because they learn Mandarin in a more controlled environments without the influences of regional dialect creeping in day to day conversation.
Hansen is from Shandong area, he has that northen dialect similar to Beijing. He can understand neutral Mandarin tone just fine but its much harder the other way round.
Ah neutral Chinese is a good way to describe it. I always have a hard time understanding erhua cause no one around me speaks like that.
Interesting. I’m a white guy and I don’t speak a word of Mandarin but that’s what people say about my Spanish: that is understandable, but so plain and “formal” that I stick out. I had somebody tell me it was like, in English, the difference between going into a bar and saying “Can I get a beer?” and “Can you please give me one beer to drink.” Like obviously they understand what you mean, but it just comes across as awkward and obvious that you’re not a native speaker.
You’re kidding right? He speaks fluent but his accent is an ABC accent, just like my cousin.
It was way rougher in the Linsanity days
It’s ABC but you can still tell it’s Taiwanese ABC.
Yes, his word choice and phrasing is definitely Taiwanese. I was just pointing out that his accent is still more “American”~
It’s not really. Have you actually heard native Taiwanese speak Mandarin?
You’re replying to one.
Also the captions make him sound way more eloquent.
He doesn’t speak very idiomatically, it’s very literal
And it’s significantly improved since his Linsanity days lol.
Someone can improve a lot, and still not sound native, that’s called relativity lmao
The best way to improve your language skill is to be in a situation where you are forced to speak nothing but that language. Playing in China likely helped him greatly but he also had to be willing to suffer some embarrassment.
he also had to be willing to suffer some embarrassment
A key step in learning a new language. It’s a humbling experience.
Jeremy Lin’s chinese has improved so much!
As a non-Chinese speaker, this sentence sounds like a funny joke.
Uh…why?
Because they still think of Asian-Americans as foreigners
yeah I’m Asian American and grew up with a lot of Asian American friends. I’d say basically all of us cannot speak our parent’s language fluently. Most of us are actually bad at it including me. This is very normal from my experience.
Sad. I had to go to Chinese classes after regular school everyday when all my friends can play COD and WoW at 3pm. Just for ppl to say “well duh u know Chinese” 😂
Playing CBA and then in Taiwan definitely brought up his Mandarin
I’m not trying to discredit his effort and he definitely has shown major improvement but I definitely would not call his accent a Taiwanese one. He still definitely sounds like an Asian American that didn’t learn Mandarin growing up.
I’m Taiwanese. Trust me, his mandarin certainly has a Taiwanese accent with it. I work in banking in Hong Kong so I have a lot of mainland Chinese colleagues. It’s quite distinct.
And you got the unique HK mandarin accent too
You are talking to mainland Chinese who can work in HK. Their accents will be exceptionally different than standard mainland Mandarin accents.
Certainly closer to a Taiwanese accent than any mainland variant
Wrong, people from Fujian will have very similar to indistinguishable accents to the standard Taiwanese accent. The reason why is fairly obvious.
There’s notable differences from vocabulary to pronunciation after 3 generations of separation. Fujian mandarin pronunciations sound closer to orthodox Beijing. Taiwanese mandarin drops the retroflex consonants (e.g., zh, ch, sh become z, c, s) and the rolling “r” (erhua) sounds, resulting in a softer, more fluid rhythm.
What’s surprising is how little Beijing & Guangzhou sounds Lin has picked up on his CBA stints. Effective code switching helps cultural integration into teams, like what he’s doing for Yang here.
Mongolian between Inner Mongolia province & Mongolia state also boast different vocabularies. With more Chinese loan words in the former version & Russian loan words in the latter. Similarly, you won’t find an advertisement for English language/ 英语 classes in Taiwan. They offer American language/ 美语 instead.
ABC accent but Taiwanese flavored.
For how long he’s lived in Taiwan now his tone and delivery is still not great but his vocabulary is a lot better than it used to be
My Cantonese is pretty shit, but I grew up speaking it with my parents. I guarantee if I lived like a year or two in Hong Kong I’d be back to 80-90% local level. Nothing like spending time somewhere to learn a language.
He doesnt have a taiwanese accent at all. He has an ABC accent. Though there are some similarities between the two they are pretty distinct.
He’s improved massively but still sounds like an ABC with Taiwanese influence if that makes sense. To my ear at least haha
Yang Hansen was 7 years old when Linsanity occurred.
Linsanity happened closer to 9⁄11 than today
I’m gonna go hit the retirement home
I’ll hit the second one
Sir. Another nephew has hit the retirement home
Now this was funny
I hate laughin at that. That’s good.
im gonna break a hip laughing
it already hit the pentagon
Sounds good, but I’ll need a nap first
Math checks out
Michael Jackson “Bad”, Guns n Roses “Appetite For Destruction”, Def Leppard “Hysteria” are all closer in time to Taylor Swift’s first album than we are
Miss me with those comparisons, fr hahaha
It does seem to track so not really wild revelation. Lin has been out of the league for a long ass time
Probably having his first fried chicken.
Yang about to have a leap season.
I am ready for the great leap forward. Surely nothing bad can come from it.
No sparrows in the league tho. he’ll have to destroy the Hawks, I guess.
Hawks: “Why he say fuck me for?”
gonna be a long march
70% good 30% bad
Lmao that’s good
great nickname for him
Yangsanity
Sign me tf up
Young Handsomenity season
How does he look in summer league.
He just had a game where he went 7⁄8 fg, 18 pts, 10 rebs, and 5 asts in 21 minutes.
He’s always looked good to great in Summer League and even the G League. It when he faces real NBA talent that he seems to struggle. TBF tho, he was a rookie last year in a whole new country playing with people in his non-native language. Im willing to be patient.
Well he can’t get much worse than last season. If he doesn’t make a leap, he is not making it in the league.
I was think Yang has cartoons playing in his head.
I’ve always like Jeremy Lin, Never understood how we went from an unknown to putting up 30 point games to being out of the league so quickly
NBA champion and 9 year veteran. Ain’t nothing quick about that.
Raptors legend with more rings than James Harden, Carmelo Anthony, and Karl Malone combined
Lakers legend too
Pass to Kobe?? NAH
He played more NBA finals than Carmelo Anthony.
Because his 30 point games are what you should be saying fell off quick.
He still played a key role in Houston for many years before he started moving towards end of the bench. That is more gradual than you think.
Also he had a lot of injuries later on. He was still great in Asia afterwards.
And honestly, it wasn’t anything wrong with Lin, the NBA is filled with insane players. Most players are our of the league within 5 years. Lin’s career is actually considered long.
Yea he played 9 years. Thats a long time in the league, Lin had a great career. Very, very few people make it 9 years. Only about 30% of NBA players make it 9+ years, and it’s already incredibly difficult to make the NBA at all
He had an awesome season with the Hornets. He played as the 6th man/occasional start and finisher there.
That’s probably the best season the Hornets had in along while. With Walker and Jefferson they had a really good season, almost got the Heat eliminated.
His injury with the Nets was pretty much the end of his career. There’s a heartbreaking video of him getting injured.
But yeah it was gradual.
I think the greatest legacy of Lin isn’t what he did on the court but what he has been doing off the court and continues to do in whatever capacity he can. Also, how he conducts himself as he does so. Dude is just contributing to more than just basketball.
I will never forget his response to Kenyon Martin. It was a gotcha moment, but at the same time, it was more nugget of wisdom enlightening everyone than a ridicule at K-Mart.
The injuries man :( that nets injury was so sad
You are forgetting his best year on the Hornets
He lost his athleticism when he got injured. He relied on that quick first step a lot.
I remember reading something a couple years back when they were doing the 10 year anniversary on Linsanity that he was measured as the quickest guy in the league and second fastest (behind John wall)
“He lit up our model,” said Morey. “Our model said take him with, like, the 15th pick in the draft.” The objective measurement of Jeremy Lin didn’t square with what the experts saw when they watched him play; a not terribly athletic Asian kid. Morey hadn’t completely trusted his model - and so had chickened out and not drafted Lin.
A year after the Houston Rockets failed to draft Jeremy Lin, they began to measure the speed of a player’s first two steps: Jeremy Lin had the quickest first move of any player measured. He was explosive and was able to change direction far more quickly than most NBA players.
“He’s incredibly athletic,” said Morey. “But the reality is that every **** person, including me, thought he was unathletic. And I can’t think of any reason for it other than he was Asian.”
Someone recently told me that Asian people were just not talented or athletic enough to make it in the NBA.
Lin always needed the ball to be most effective but he always had better teammates who played the same way – Melo, Harden, Kobe.
And then when he finally got the chance to be the man in Brooklyn he got hurt in the season opener and missed the whole season. At that point he was who he was and the league just moved on.
I don’t think many people realize just how many guys in the NBA could become a first option and look like an all star like how Lin did
Markkanen was a role player who then when given the keys in Utah turned into a top 25 player and all star, same thing with Mikal Bridges in Brooklyn, MPJ in Brooklyn, Deni in Portland, etc
All these guys are so talented that if you gave them 18 shots a night chances are they will score and look really good, it’s just most teams have other players who are better so they’re confined to a smaller role where people think they regress or disappear but in reality they just aren’t being asked to do nearly as much
it’s definitely more people than most would think, but i think it’s worth considering that for 3 of the 4 players you mentioned it didn’t translate to winning. basketball isn’t a 1 on 1 game and the teams around them were trash but there’s a difference between efficiently getting yours on 18 shots a night and generating 18 efficient shots against a playoff defense
Which is exactly why volume scorers who don’t do much else are not highly valued around the league, Jaylen Brown being the most recent example.
i mean he had 4 good seasons after knicks and then had injury issues with the nets. The weird part was he played like 70 games with good min in that 18-19 season finishing with the raps ring but then couldnt get signed after
the part I dont understand is why he isnt one of the biggest nba media personalities, like people love him, he talks well, understands the game, asia market…
Cause he’s Asian
yup. Dude got absolutely roughed up in the league. He’s also really smart both about the game and outside of it. Hopefully he gets picked up for more analysis gigs
He just got into media this year. Started doing ESPN spots during the playoffs.
A near decade in the NBA is quick? lol
He had a 9 year career that’s a lot longer than most
He had a long career after as a role player wdym. Nets even gave him like $40 million lol
Dude had a nine-year NBA career, what do you mean out of the league so quickly? Lmao
No one survives a torn patellar tendon
He played 9 years for 8 different teams, that’s a hell of a career. Got a ring too
Didn’t he tear his ACL in Brooklyn? Loved him on the Hornets
Even worse, a ruptured patellar tendon. Same thing Oladipo got
Back to back long injuries in brooklyn if I remember correctly. Beforehand he was the main offensive guy for them and playing really well.
Injury
He never got back to Linsanity levels but he was capable of being a tank commander or a 6 man. His biggest strength was that he was fast and shifty, and he lost a lot of his athleticism after his bad injury on the nets, but prior to that he was solidly a double digit scorer who belonged in the NBA.
I think it was kg that said it but there was no scouting report on Lin in the beginning, then people figured out he cant go left and other holes in his game
Great mentor. I hope this relationship extends.
Cool to see. I’ve been happy seeing more about him online and in the media. Even if he is considered a “flash in the pan” he still has a lot more than knowledge than you see the people getting trotted out in front of us (on ESPN at least) and is a well natured and well speaking guy.
I’ve always liked Lin. Also I heard he went to Harvard so he’s wicked smaht
do you like apples?
“I don’t like them apples, Will!”
I would rather listen to Lin do analysis than some blowhard like Kendrick Perkins for sure.
Teams need to hire him as assistant coach
How many assistant coaches went to Harvard?
Asian 🤝 Asian American
so “and one” in chinese is “2+1” ?
Yes, or 3+1 depending
Chinese don’t like 4, they will go out of their way to avoid it
is this supposed to be a dumb joke or what, that’s not why they dont say 4 point play
It’s a joke. Chill
4 sounds like death, so people avoid it like an unlucky number – similar to 13 in the West, where some elevators will skip it.
That laptop looks too small for them.
That’s an iPad bro
Does Yang have a lazy eye or maybe it’s the camera angle, but the guy looks absolutely zooted out in this video
Dat Portland dank
Coach Lin
The Blazers should hire him as an assistant to work with Hansen.
Melo would never
In fairness, Melo probably doesn’t speak Mandarin very well. I’m sure if he really applied himself over a couple of years he could manage to talk Hansen through some film.
We saw hoodie Melo and Olympic Melo. Just missed out on CBA Melo - would have returned fluent!
tf you talking about? Melo was known for being one of the most active vets in the league. He was the vet for almost everyone the Knicks drafted, and mentored a lot of players on different teams too. He’s part of the reason Blake developed a jumpshot.
Get over it. Even Lin has asked people to stop doing this shit.
Exactly. Lin literally said there’s no beef, and that he hates the way people online use him as a tool to hate on other players.
YANGSANITY 2026⁄2027
jeremy can fix him
Common Lin win.
Jeremy Lin continues to be awesome
NBA Champion
Yes yes yes
Tripped me out when I saw that artwork cause I stayed at that hotel in Vegas and remember that art piece vividly. I guess every room has that piece.
You can tell they love JoJo YES!
They translate it as rebound but actually Chinese people don’t say rebound they say board
Love seeing a seasoned vet like Jeremy Lin mentoring the young bucks. Asians in the NBA 💪
Why are they watching this on a laptop. Big screen TV my man!
It is easier to pause, rewind and move forward.
Makes sense
If I was a coach ^(I know Lin isn’t a coach at a facility) I’d have my tech team getting me the most advanced clicker available to do film.
Come on. Should have used the Minority Report tech… Jeremy can do better
Lin should be an assistant coach in the NBA.
Hansenity here it comes
Normally I would be like “Jeremy Lin going to be an assistant coach?” but because of El Cheapo we all know he’d make more money doing literally anything else.
Incredibly based.
What about Yao Ming? His he mentoring Hansen at all?
Yao Ming lives in China bro
They could still look at film together.
Yangsanity in the making
I’ll take some YangSanity
Do my guys know about AirPlay??
More of this instead of trying to find ways to shit on Carmelo fr
man Lin’s PR team has been on a legendary run the last few months
I know it’s obvious but still sort of fun to see a guard teaching a center. Guards obv have the broadest wisdom. Makes sense to pair Yang with a floor general that also speaks Chinese. Hope it works out.
“Just pretend like the orbiting cameraman isn’t here”