Call flops as technicals that count towards a player’s technical foul count before suspension during the season or playoffs. They can also be reviewed after the game, like any other calls, and rescinded or added accordingly.

Yes.

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To be clear he didn’t get sent off for the simulation, he got a second yellow which caused him to be sent off him. Normally it is just a single yellow card and play on

There was a few weeks where they didn’t reward floppers a few seasons ago. It was glorious as you can imagine

Football still has a huge issue with flops. They only hard punish MASSIVE flops.

you will still see small amounts of contact be turned into withering on the ground 10 times a match at least

It should be a foul on the flopping player and automatic free throw for other team. 

I want VAR in the NBA.

yes. i understand wanting to make sure the refs catch a real foul but we’re beyond that. players should never feel incentivized to trick an official

They already do give technicals for flopping…or at least they’re supposed to. The main problem is enforcement. Similar to traveling, defensive/offensive 3 seconds, carrying, lane violations. The league doesn’t follow it’s own rules.

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-board-of-governors-in-game-flopping-penalty-permanent

Very few flops in the nba happen with zero contact, so you’re asking refs to make a judgement call on acceptable vs unacceptable “selling.” I’m sure that’ll be without controversy.

Yes but only if they are playing SGA

“technical for obvious flop” is literally already a rule. The fact that you don’t know that speaks volumes to how much they actually enforce it

Correct me if I’m wrong but he only got the red card because it was his second yellow for the game.

Otherwise, it would’ve been a normal yellow card.

If I am correct, then it is already similar to technical fouls in the NBA. A flop should already be a technical in the NBA but the refs are too chicken to actually call it.

Have you not watched soccer?

Only when an NBA team plays against Argentina

Be completely honest, what constitutes a shooting foul?

Because, in the NBA playoffs, we’ve seen “blocks” by certain players which involve going through the shooter’s hand.

Is that a block or shooting foul?

Let’s define shooting fouls before we define a flop.

Yes, play a man down 

You don’t need to punish anything, just don’t call the foul and folks will stop

Yes, but only in highly selective situations that benefit certain teams.

NBA is a business before it’s a sport, it just won’t make things harder for the players for no reason, and the NBA views itself as a highlight sport more than anything so there’s no reason for them to punish flopping that badly.

Realistically, the only reason this particular instance resulted in a yellow card was because the Argentinian player got booked for the initial “foul”, and the video referee alerted it to the on field referee to check. The “mistaken identity” rule means that the yellow card transfers from the original receipient to the player who dived.

There was a penalty overturned in the earlier game by the video referee and no booking was given because the defender who was judged to have made the foul didn’t get booked for it.

So while it looks like a strict punishment for a flop, in reality he wouldn’t have received this punishment if he had dived without the other player getting a yellow card.

Exaggerating contact is not flopping. Acting like you got foul when there wasn’t any contact is a flop. I think it’s very hard to determine flopping in the NBA unless it’s very clear and it’s usually not very clear. Even in soccer, it’s pretty hard under normal circumstances. This World Cup, I saw two yellow rescinded and given to the flopper. It’s harsh, but don’t sell contact until you get contact.

They don’t even punish flopping AT ALL. So the “this harshly” first needs to go through the criteria of “at all”. But yes, it should be.

Absolutely

I see just as much (if not more) egregious flopping in soccer as much as I do in NBA. The difference is the reward is much greater in soccer compared to 1-2 points in the NBA

They should but they probably won’t

I have nothing to add to this discussion other than saying that was such an egregious flop by the Swiss player. What was he thinking lmfao. He already knew he was on a yellow card

IDK how people can call Argentina VAR merchants after this when it was so blatantly obvious. The funny thing is that if the referee never gave a yellow card to the Argentine player, VAR would have never reviewed it and reversed the decision for a simulation foul.

Embiid never gets minutes again

Red card their asses straight to Galveston

Sure why not. They just review them live and correct it at the next dead ball. Undo and flip the foul and award new free throws like a tech coming out of a dead ball

100%. Flop and it’s a T2.

Every sport should punish flopping, they should all have a team that watches games and even if not punishing it in game, retroactively punish it with suspension.

Flopping is a cancer on sports.

The NBA sees an MVP

Yes they should, at the same time, refs need to be consistent in calling fouls.

Yes and I think the refs should have a “T” in their pocket to pull out like a yellow card.

Yes. Until cheaters are actually punished they will continue to do it.

He didn’t get a red card, he got two yellows. Not the same thing.

Best I can do is more ads.

flopping creates free throws hence commercial breaks… where do you think nba players get paid so much money? it’s tv deals and plus gambling sponsorship

Review concerning fouls at half time. They have a multimillion dollar replay center that does nothing at half time. If there is a clear embellishment/dive that results in a foul on another player, the offending player gets a tech. If it is reviewed after the game, he starts with a tech next game.

ChatGPT ass post

Simple solution. 

12 minute (game time) suspension for flopping.  

Opposing team can challenge to say a player flopped. 

1st wrong challenge= 1 free throw 2nd wrong challenge= 2 free throws, no challenges left.  

does the NBA do VAR to check for obvious flopping or are we relying on the world’s best and definitively not gambling on the outcome of games they’re reffing referees to make split second decisions while being legally blind?

If refs did their jobs, there would be no need for flopping.

Yea please. Shai Gilgeous mc flopideous career ender

Yes. We should introduce pink cards. If you flop like a bitch, pink card. Two pink cards and you get kicked in the nuts

They called a foul and yellow card on a player, replayed the event repeatedly and thoroughly, saw that the afflicted player had flopped and reversed the yellow card and gave it to the flopping player leading to a red because he had a yellow earlier. ALSO it’s not like basketball where if a player is ejected, you replace them. A red card means you are down a whole player on the field.

They do this in a once every four years tournament representing your whole country and the nba can’t do it for a single domestic game out of 72+. Embarrassing.

Absolutely but also he didn’t get a red, he got a second yellow which automatically upgrades to a red

I for one am definitely in favor of punishing over-emboloshment of contact

Only if they show consistency. If that’s Enzo diving there’s no VAR check.

Ejection no

But free throws plus counting as one foul, sure.

I don’t trust refs to enforce it fairly

They should but won’t. Silver has no balls

Hey should just enforce the flopping tech rule already on the books

If there are clear and precise guidelines much like the foul they gave the red in the game yeah. It shouldn’t even be a question

PLEASE

Never going to happen Adam Silver is pro flopping

Okc in shambles

Yes.

And they should have the “Joel Embiid Flopper of the Year” award

Can’t wait for robo refs so this all becomes irrelevant.