It’s funny because we live in a country that’s already collectively agreed that billionaires can do whatever the fuck they want in broad daylight and there’s no accountability. They used to at least care about appearances and try to hide the sleazy shit

As vile as it is, it’s also kind of hilarious in how predictably stupid it is. I am not for one second shocked that this exists. It’s deeply dumb and just sets you up to get posterized, but it’s the exact kind of behavior we’ve come to expect from people like Dolan.

You stop being afraid of lawsuits when you can just buy the judges

Keeping them off screen. Thats why he was tracking the trans woman from the story a couple months ago; I’d imagine that he’d also want to keep gay couples from appearing on the kiss cam, for instance

It’s kinda like the sphere with the specialized audio so he wanted to make sure the gay people wouldn’t hear his homophobic subliminal messaging

Sources tell me Dolan has many terabytes of gay porn downloaded that he sifts through personally just to get face scans of all the men in them

I have a pretty high profile background in marketing and the first thing that comes to mind is cross-promotions that do not align. 

You wouldn’t, for example, want to schedule a progressive half-time show artist on Veteran Appreciation Night, or schedule Kid Rock during Pride month.

I’m probably giving James Dolan way too much credit here though. 

They have a guy at MSG whose job it is to prevent suspected transgender people from ending up on the Jumbotron

Genital check at the gates, or something.

Pablo reported dolan has his security watch a specific trans fan and log exactly when and how much time she spends in bathrooms 

It just sounds like a CRM to me. This would allow them to create target groups for specific add and sales campaigns, like in this case for pride night.

Adam Silver can repeat the only good thing he’s ever done if he wants some good press right now.

The only thing that could make our ring sweeter is Dolan being forced to sell the team. Get his ass out of there already

This is actually something a functional DOJ should be looking into.

He can do WHATEVER he wants. As long as no one records him saying the N word on tape.

He won’t force him to sell, but given he just surrendered control of the Rangers to his son, at the very least Silver and the league can pressure him to do the same for the Knicks to take him out of day to day operations.

It’s funny that they went homophobic but used the proper full acronym and not just the short one or a slur.

please 🙏 force the sale

Something spurs and Knicks can agree on

Fuck James Dolan.

Somehow relevant again

To Dan Snyder.

Would honestly love to hear Da Baby’s thoughts on James Dolan.

Where’s JA?!

Hello police? Ben Stiller trying to beat me up.

Such a loser. 71 year old man. Billions of dollars. And this is what he spends limited hours of his short life doing? These billionaire losers are all sad, pathetic and unhappy.

To be that rich and that thin skinned is pathetic.

1. The Knicks only loss after the 1st round coming on the night that Trump was there

his speech was so fucking pathetic. He has negative rizz. Absolute nepo loser. 

Mamdani’s speech was masterclass level. James Dolan then gave us a masterclass in how to eat shit.

Every time I think about him booking himself to open for the Eagles at MSG I laugh.

Just like a billionaire to miss the point that Blues music is supposed to be based on hardship of some kind.

Most of the owners are lizards honestly, it’s just a matter how much lizard activity you’re willing to put up with, although keeping lists of marginalized people never seems like a good idea 

Jerey buss was legit one of the best ones in the league , and now our new owner has had a interesting history supporting private prisons, so there’s that 

Nothing changes unless the citizens are willing to storm the gates.

This came out before the championship. This also has been like, a multi-year story.

Dolan specifically didnt garner any good will just because the Knicks won. Especially not after he invited Trump to game 3.

Everyone has known he’s a dogshit owner and shitty person for years. It’s hard to imagine anyone would have changed their opinion of him based on one playoff run, when all he does is sign checks.

What a way to incinerate any and all good will from finally winning a championship

I guarantee you that most fans don’t know or care about this. This isn’t a new story but no one knew or cared about it the first few times around to the extent that people think it is a new story.

“No…no…it’s not because they are black. They are just uppity.”

Don’t worry. Most other owners are evil assholes too. As a fan who got indoctrinated as a young kid, I can’t stop myself from following my favorite sports teams. But I have learned that I can stop spending money on them.

NO NOT RUDY GAY

Mamdani uses eminent domain to seize all the property in and around MSG and force a sale

Does he have offspring?

Aminu does NOT go both ways 😤

part 1

Madison Square Garden Kept a List of Gay Celebrities Noah Shachtman, Maddy Varner

Fat Joe is a superfan, both of the New York Knicks and their controversial owner, Jim Dolan. The rapper celebrated with Dolan in Cleveland when the team clinched its first finals appearance in decades. When the Knicks organization came under intense scrutiny over aggressive security measures for game 3 of the NBA finals, Fat Joe stuck up for the boss.

“Shoutout to Mr. Dolan, greatest team owner in the game,” he told reporters at the time. “They villainize Mr. Dolan, like, almost like a Bruce Wayne, like a Batman movie and this is Gotham City … This man takes care of us.”

Within Dolan’s organization, however, some have a different view of Fat Joe. An internal Madison Square Garden database of VIPs labels Joe a “medium risk,” one of roughly 400 celebrities given a risk score. Many of those celebs are courtside fixtures at Knicks games: Edie Falco, Mark Ronson, John Turturro, and Tracy Morgan, to name a few. That makes the 400-ish entries unusual. The vast majority of the 39,539 entries in the so-called “talent” database—which tracks boldfaced names in business, technology, politics, media, and sports, along with their guests—are not marked with a risk score at all.

The database is part of a much larger trove of documents published last month by ShinyHunters, a criminal hacker collective. 404 Media was the first to report on the hack and the release of the VIP roll. But the extent to which Madison Square Garden labeled many of the Knicks’ most visible, loyal fans with a risk score hasn’t been previously revealed, nor has the rationale MSG used to do so.

The database doesn’t provide an explicit explanation for Fat Joe’s “medium risk” designation. But as WIRED has previously documented, MSG security keeps close tabs on what is said online about Dolan and the Garden’s management. Some fans have been targeted by MSG for criticizing the mogul; MSG security even asked local law enforcement to visit a teenager in Colorado after one tweet. “They scared the crap 💩 out of some 14 year old kid in Colorado,” an MSG security staffer texted in a message reviewed by WIRED.

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A source with knowledge of the matter tells WIRED that Garden security has performed social media sweeps for prominent people looking for complimentary tickets to games. If you’re a celebrity and you’re marked with a risk score—even as a low risk—it means “you’ve done something in the publicity world, the social media world, that has caught the attention of the wrong people,” the source continues. The talent database, which has entries dating back to December 2020 and includes updates as recent as early June of this year, makes repeated reference to “SM concerns.” Physical security threats—potential harms to people or property—are documented in a separate database, the source says. (The source adds that these sorts of databases are common at arenas.)

Garden security cast a wide net in its search for anything remotely negative that someone posts online, the source says. “It doesn’t have to be that serious. You could just be critical of the team or the place itself,” the source notes. “You could post that you had a hard time getting in and you really didn’t like the way you were treated at one of the gates. Which is really nothing, right?”

According to the source, Fat Joe was flagged because of his connection to another legend of New York City rap, Jadakiss, who had been critical of Dolan in the past. (“It seems like he’s always more happier when the team sucks,” Jadakiss said in 2020.) Jadakiss is designated as a “medium risk.” The other members of his hip-hop trio, the Lox, are also in the database but don’t have a risk score.

“It’s a really, really paranoid, terrible system,” the source says.

The talent database provides a window into how MSG internally views its famous, rich, and powerful visitors—its well-curated “celebrity row” and its hordes of high-profile fans. The comedian (and longtime Knicks obsessive) Adam Pally is “not to be hosted”—Garden lingo for getting free tickets—“due to previous comments.” Pally has at times been critical of the team’s management.

Iconic hip-hop producer and DJ Pete Rock, whose Instagram is a nonstop ode to the team, is nevertheless marked “DO NOT HOST” in the database. After beloved Knicks enforcer Charles Oakley was forcibly escorted from the Garden, Pete Rock says he called for a boycott of Dolan on Twitter. “None of the other owners are as petty as Dolan is,” Pete Rock tells WIRED in a direct message, before addressing his comments to Dolan: “You can’t stop me from being a Knick fan, but your controlling behavior towards people is very unprofessional.”

Daisy Jones and the Six actor Will Harrison is flagged because “GF wrote NYT article.” (Harrison isn’t public about his romantic life in the way many stars are, and we couldn’t find an article that was in any way a match.) In the spring of 2024, actress and model Julia Fox appeared courtside in an extremely revealing outfit; by early April, she was barred from getting complimentary tickets. Anna Wintour, Condé Nast’s chief content officer and global editorial director of Vogue, always dresses impeccably when attending Knicks games and has no record of disparaging Dolan. She’s labeled as “medium risk.”

People of concern are ranked on a scale, the source explained. “Flag” is the lowest, an indication to discuss the VIP with a supervisor. Next is “low risk”—that’s the marking for Falco, Morgan, and Ben Stiller, their fellow Knicks ride-or-die. After that is “medium risk” (the actor Lily Allen, her ex David Harbour, and the country singer Morgan Wallen) and “high risk” (the hip-hop stars Freddie Gibbs, Lil Jon, DaBaby, and A Boogie Wit da Hoodie). The rapper Lil Tjay, who recently was involved in an altercation at the Garden’s Hulu Theater, is “BANNED FROM MSG,” according to the database.

Five of the publicly identified attendees at Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Madison Square Garden wedding were marked as “low risk”: the musicians Ice Spice, Selena Gomez, and Benson Boone, the TV host Michael Strahan, and the actor Mariska Hargitay.

The talent database also tracks some celebrities’ race, gender identity, and sexual orientation; 93 entries are marked as “LGBTQIA.” Why MSG felt the need to label Ricky Martin or Phoebe Bridgers or Geese’s Emily Green in this way is unclear.

“I’ve never met James Dolan. I don’t know the higher-up leadership at Madison Square Garden. But, like, there does seem to be a bit of a pattern here,” says Evan Greer, director of the digital rights group Fight for the Future, citing WIRED’s reporting on the Garden’s minute-by-minute surveillance of a trans woman. “They just seem overly interested in queer and trans people in their venue,” Greer adds.

The talent database also seems to hint at how MSG might use complimentary tickets to boost its political agenda. Listed are 32 political candidates who are or were “supported by MSG PAC,” along with hundreds of current and former elected officials. The database also includes a column noting each entry’s “claim to fame.” For nearly 60 people, that involves signing a letter or testifying in support of a renewed permit for Madison Square Garden that Dolan was looking to secure in 2023. That list includes union leaders; a lobbyist; the brother of a brain cancer patient, who had been helped by a charity that works with MSG; and the owner of Don Pepi Pizza, an eatery in New York’s skeevy Amtrak terminal, in Penn Station, which sits beneath the Garden.

None of them, it should be noted, have any kind of risk score.

Maybe that’s why he sold the team

Yea fuck Dolan and all but other than being a manchild having lists at all that corresponds to how much people hate him, it does not seem (at this point at least) that the lists were discriminatory against a protected class. I don’t think it’s that crazy to have a list of lgbt oriented people for promotions and marketing as such.

What “reason” is that?

You’ve been here for two months and have commented 1600 times already. That comes out to nearly thirty posts per day.

You’re the shining example of a Redditor, champ.

Anyone and everyone.

It’s sad that the obvious answer gets downvoted.

This is background info about VIPs, not discrimination against randoms.