Donovan Mitchell will be making 75.5 million dollars when he is 34 years old in 2031
Thoughts on this contract? As with most B tier stars demanding supermaxes the Cavs were in a tough place with it but still an obscene amount of money
Sounds like they need to get a young guy in there like LeBron to balance out the cap sheet
so 50 million per year to LeBron?
As much as you can criticize this, I do think this was the best thing for the Cavs to do.
When you have a star, you want to keep him
Especially when you dont have your own picks till 2030
Feels like everyone forgets this. Utah wanted later picks hoping Donovan would leave and the picks would be lottery picks. Letting Don walk when he wants to stay makes absolutely no sense. He’s not a guy you want to pay that kind of money as he ages but they have no choice
I’m unfamiliar with that concept.
I mean we kept Stockton and malone for 20 years. Also we gave gobert a huge contract at the time. Deron and Carlos both signed extensions as well.
It’s pretty much just hayward and don unless you consider Kessler a star
luka considers kessler a star, time will tell lol
Don’t worry, you will be soon with Peterson
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Ya’ll better put DP in chains and only let him out to play ball.
Man hell naw
Pretty sure that became illegal in like 1865 dude.
Letting him play ball? I think youre right, up until the 50s?
Yeah but the third trump administration should get rid of that pesky inconvenience
Stu-dahnt ath-uh-leets wink
There’s still time to delete this
You really do just lock them in and hope they hit the next level or have a couple phenomenal playoff runs. This league moves fast
why? they’ve already peaked as a team even before he signed this extension. now they’re stuck with him until he’s far past his prime
There’s no doubt they need some luck to get over the hump, but at least there’s a chance. Blowing it up gives them no chance for a while.
I don’t think there’s that much of a chance. They have about the same chance as the pre-Kawhi raptors. If they want to make a move now, it would almost certainly have to be Mobley going out for them to improve at all
He plays no defense, makes nobody around him better, and hardly even scores at an efficient clip. This is a franchise ruining contract
Never understood why the “pure hooper” guys get paid elite money without any off/on ball defense, facilitation or playmaking
But does not paying him and letting him walk in free agency make the team better? Almost certainly not.
would at least give you an opportunity to get better. now you don’t have that
Does it? We don’t have picks to tank with, and no star better than Donovan is walking through that door.
i mean, was mitchell ever a likely name for cleveland before he got traded there? you never know who will become available, but doesn’t matter much now that you won’t be able to go after them
The key thing here is “traded there” which, we don’t have picks to trade for a player.
They already can’t go after anyone lol
I have to agree here
Let him walk or trade and your return is much worse.
You’d have to also deal J Allen and/or Mobley to get your draft picks back.
Then you’re back to what 3-5 years or more trying to get back to the playoffs?
There’s a reason why these deals are being signed.
Flair up bozo
doesn’t have to if he speaks the truth, bozo
Looking at his post history, dude is just a generational hater and/or troll.
As opposed to what, letting him walk?
Was Jokic or anyone else “worth” that sort of contract planning on coming to Cleveland before 2030?
It’s a small market non-destination team. If you got one of the better players in the league you have to pay and deal with it be ok with being a perpetual bottom feeder team that’s constantly rolling the lottery dice for the next decade (which they can’t even do if they wanted due to no picks)…
Only part of this that is true is the no defense
you’re saying a bunch of causal nonsense for a guy who’s always on top of the league in all metrics and adv number
Exactly. Guys like him and Brunson will never win in this league.
Can’t you lock him for 50-55m a year? I don’t think any team will sign him with 60/year. But what do i know
If the player isn’t agreeing to 50-55 m a year than you can’t.
Sure it’s ideal for your team to pay a star player less, but at the same time, if you low ball a player the chances of them leaving increase.
Teams are absolutely going to pay a top 15 player in his prime 60m/year. The floor for Donovan Mitchell teams throughout his career is the playoffs, and the median is home court advantage in the first round. So many teams would absolutely take a floor raiser like that.
I get Mitchell had a pretty bad playoff run by his standards, but he is still an all-NBA level player who is only just entering his 30 year old season.
And this is a friendly deal for Cleveland. He could have asked for more after next season and probably would have gotten it if he has another all-nba first team season.
Yeah it’s a tricky situation. You aren’t winning a ring but it’s better than being plain bad. Unless you have a very well built team and/or a top 3 player in the nba, preferably both, you’re not winning a chip.
Smartest thing would be to trade him next year but he’s probably untradable now.
Yeah, we all learned that when the Wizards very wisely gave Bradley Beal the max in 2022, a contract that aged like a fine wine
Bradley Beal was never on the level of play that Mitchell was. Mitchell has made 7 all star appearances, Beal made 2 (on the Wizards)
Don’t engage with idiots… they pull you down to their level & beat you with experience.
casual comparing beal to mitchell
The biggest obstacle with his contract was the no trade clause
What about when you have two stars? Asking for a friend
Hes also gonna get traded for an aging star in 2 years or less.
Paul George get ready to learn Clevelandese
River-On-Fire-Ese
He is the aging star 😂
Time to trade him for AD, as is foretold.
Yeah I’m assuming Cavs trade him in about a year tbh
lol, y’all can’t even wait an hour to claim every tea leaf reads Mitchell is out in Cleveland
I think this is more of a take on the state of the league.
If they win, then they shouldn’t care.
So they’re gonna care.
Will you care when the Cavs eliminate the Raps for the 5th time in a row?
If youre snarkily referring to last season’s playoffs, Toronto came out looking way better, relatively, than Cleavland did.
Get out the “relatively better in the first round” trophy for the Raptors
Just on a side note. I rly hope kawhi works out for you
It’s gonna be a fun season.
That much money for Mitchell is insanity but what you gunna do. Can’t even overact anymore to money cause it’s only going up every couple years.
i love casual takes on this. “that much for mitchell”
It’s a salary cap league, the best player will be paid the same as the 15th best player. It’s just what it is. This is what the star players are worth. It seems a lot because the cap% currently is a lot of money. But it’s the same as when it was 30M instead of 75M. It seems like people just can’t realize that there is more money now.
You’re too nice
People are dumb
Some teams are not concerned about “championships”
Just having another jersey to retire would be nice. The Cavs have like 10 winning seasons in their 50 year history without LeBron, and Donovan contributed to 4 of them.
And some teams don’t care about championships OR having good players.
Pels fans think Herb and Trey are better than Don and Evan
They have consistently been a contender tbf. Just can’t break through. But they’re definitely not going to break through letting Mitchell walk, so what can you do.
well theyre definitely not breaking through by paying him this lol
people said the same thing about brunson. i’m not saying donovan is as good as him but he’s not a sorry ass players like that
Everyone is “overpaid” until you win (see: OG, Mikal for 5 picks). You guys just made the ECF, some pundits prior to the series even had them winning. Do I think DMitch has his deficiencies? Yes. But you never know how a season goes and you simply beat who’s in front of you come playoff time. I say run it back with the Cavs and, again, who knows. The last few ECF losers have gone on to make the Finals lol.
No they did not lol Brunson never made anywhere near this much
As a Pistons fan I love it
Only to end up hating the same rule that will pay a 36‑year‑old Cade Cunningham $130 million a season at age 35 lol.
And I expect others to say the same I said in 11 years when that happens. But if the Pistons have a championship or two from it then no one cares. Mitchell does not though
Why? Lol excited to see mitchell own your franchise for several more years?
We keep getting better and the Cavs keep staying the same. Love it
Well, not yet. Maybe when you guys trade for KD u can say the pistons are getting better, but Cade still does not have a second star.
You should look into how your offseason is going, esp talking about overpays with Duren still out there
Except we aren’t overpaying Duren and our GM is standing his ground. No one has the money to pay Duren max so he isn’t going anywhere
Still salty you lost after being the #1 seed, I see… lol.
Detroit gotta have the craziest little brother complex I’ve ever seen
Nope. We were overrated. It was well known if you actually watch ball
We need to stop citing to the sticker value of contracts particularly years in the future.
The better question to ask is whether Mitchell will still be worth ~35% of the cap in 2031 when he’s 34.
The problem is that the cap is rising slower than the 8% max raise.
Yes recently this is true, but we don’t know what will happen in 5 years.
The sticker price is relevant when the second apron exists and has basically killed free agency. Teams essentially only give out max deals and exceptions now-a-days.
Not saying everyone is Jalen Brunson and willing to take a discount but the Knicks were able to afford having a bunch of elite role players because their star was making 65m a year.
Unless you’re OKC and have half the leagues draft picks and can continue to backfill your roster with rookie deals, you just can’t pay top 10-15 guys 35% of the cap anymore.
. you just can’t pay top 10-15 guys 35% of the cap anymore.
This is a straight up terrible take lol. Every team can very easily afford to pay their best player a full ass max at 35%.
It’s when having multiple at 35% or one at 35% and one at 30%(Mitchell/Mobley on this case) where things can start to get tricky.
To some team trying to hit the floor he’ll be perfect
Prolly fine idk like the Cavs will now almost certainly be in the playoffs from like 2022-2031 not a bad stretch for a franchise at all
It will probably not age well. They owe their 2031 pick to Utah or Boston, after which they can start a rebuild. In the meantime, if all goes to plan, they’ll continue building around Mitchell and Mobley and remain a competitive 3rd-tier contender.
Sounds bad now. But like with most of these contracts, it’s only bad today. Every year cap and salaries go up. By the time we get to 2030-31, the last few years of the deal, there will be guys making close to $90+mil
Age wise, he should still produce at an all nba level for first few years of that deal.
34 isn’t that old for an NBA player anymore.
Who do you think is going to be the first 100 million a year guy? Probably a young player in the league right now, or even someone from this draft.
B tier stars? Mitchell was 1st team all nba 2024-25 and is a solidly top 10 player in the league
10-15.
Horrendous contract
Crazy and he ain’t worth it. This is a pricetag that should be only available for MVP players. Never won a MVP ? You can’t get this.
Plus he disappeared multiple games in all of their playoff series
That’s why Brown was so hard for the Celtics to get off of. He’s an incredible player, top 10 right now, but that’s a LOT of money for a guy who’s only been a fringe MVP candidate.
It’s not my money so this shouldn’t matter to me, but Shai & Jokic deserve a contract like that and not Donovan.
lol Jaylen brown is not a top 10 player in the association
He was a top MVP vote-getter last season. Yeah, he’s probably going to fall out of the top 10 with Curry, Tatum, Giannis, and Haliburton being healthy again, but he was Top 10 last season.
Right, so he’s not actually a top 10 player
If you don’t honestly believe that Brown was Top 10 in the League last season you’re tripping.
Brain dead take unless youre criticizing the salary cap.if youre criticizing the player youre insane. Any team in the league would take dmitch happily
Brain dead is a little bit harsh don’t you think ? I talk about the salary.
Was Paul George not available??????
Y’all think he’s gonna be a bum at 34? Could for sure still be a 24+ ppg type of guy
He’s very athleticism dependent, and his flaws defensively are only going to get worse. He could still be a decent scorer because he’s a good shooter, but his overall impact is going to get worse once his athleticism starts to fall off. His archetype doesn’t age well, typically.
I mean Dame was averaging 25 his age 34 season. Could see Don in that tier of player at that age.
Okay, and do you think that version of Dame is good enough to build a contending roster around? There’s a reason he went to MIL to have Giannis drive the bus, and a reason that team did not contend seriously (even pre-achilles).
He’s not athleticism dependent, he’s 3 point ball and incredibly long arms dependent
His game is way more James Harden then Dwayne Wade
Giving him the trade kicker on top of all this was just insane. I love Donovan Mitchell great player, playoff riser, plays winning basketball imo and I know there’s people on the other side of the fence who are way lower on him but even as a supporter and a fan of him this is just a horrible contract to give out.
People really need to stop getting hung up on the big numbers and instead just looking at cap percentage. A rising cap means numbers keep going up.
That aside, it’s an overpay and could very well be one of the worst contracts in the league in 3 years. But what would you have the Cavs do? Deny the extension and have the guy demand a trade or walk in free agency?
I assume the Kings or Nets will be the ones actually paying it at that point.
I mean at some point the contract truly becomes untradeable. This isn’t a regular max and it has a trade kicker too with a final year player option
That’s crazy. I gotta find a way to befriend him and Coco.
It’s best case scenario for the Cavs. Signing an extension this offseason means he’ll “only” be 30% of the cap. If he waited another year to sign his supermax would be 35% of the cap.
It’s probably not going to be a great contract at the end, but you don’t want him to walk after next season and paying Mitchell \(68mil a year is a lot better than paying him \)80mil per year
Unless he starts to heavily regress this year moving forward….
He is a great scorer (sometimes), but he has a lot of flaws that will only get worse. And in the playoffs, teams expose him, and his flaws, pretty consistently.
This also is going to make it harder to make any more significant moves, including signing bron, unless they know hes gonna take the minimum.
Imo, im glad we got him, but i wish he wouldve take a bit more of a team friendly deal
Absolute joke of a contract. Cavs fans are coping
It would have been more expensive if they waited another year, but we will never be out of the 2nd apron now
This is the kind of contract that just isn’t workable for most teams now. Although I think teams that are desperate to compete will continue to give bad contracts. They didn’t have much choice to continue this window.
Owners making 10 times that lol they’ll be ight
Oh nooooooo oh noooooo. They should have actually pissed him off and sent him away.
Great news for the Knicks
34 years old isn’t too bad, wait until you see what players a few years from now signs for at that age range or even older.
I think people downplay donovan mitchell to much. He help cleveland to the ecf while i agree its way to expensive i do hope they managed to reduce his salary so they can finally start being a better team. If donovan want to win he needs to start doing what jalen brunson has done and not do what carmelo anthony did for the knicks
The back half of that contract is gonna be tough be we gotta do it
The money is a lot but people talk like 34 is decrepit. Michael Jordan was the best player in the league and won his last championship at 35 — guys who are elite (and healthy) don’t fall off a cliff at 30. Mitchell’s game may not age as well absent a jumper, but this is just what it costs to retain a superstar. He’ll be good until the contract is over.
The Celtics would never
How about getting a 41 year old up and comer
Star players hold their teams hostage, because there will be like 10 suckers to pay it regardless
He would have gotten a lot more if he waited a year, this was the best outcome possible for the Cavs
There’s only like 3 guys in the league worth this kind of money.
I mean he is that guy. We just saw brunson win one with a similar play style. You dont have to be SGA to warrant a max
Calling Mitchell a B tier star is a bit much. He’s a 7x All Star and has been 1st or 2nd team all-NBA 3 of the last 4 years. He may not have the playoff success of others in his level, but he is still a top 10-12 player in the league.
We’re gonna compete for the next two years then when Harden and James are gone, go into a rebuild. This don’t matter.
sign and lock up the guy now, let the next GM think about it later
/remindme 5 years
Cavs gonna trade for kyrie
In two years after falling short in the playoffs twice, donavan mitchell will express his frustration with the front office, the front office will see decreasing output from an aging mitch and a black hole in their cap space. He will get traded for another aging star and some seconds. Unless lebron ofc.
Woof
Cleveland rocks.
Joke’s on him! In 2031, $75m will be the vet minimum
Bonkers. IMO he is not worth that type of money
Any team would pay him that. Hes a brunson archetype and brunson just won one…
Brunson won because he gets 50% of that
And rookies will be making 100 million in 5 years
I hate this CBA