You really just need some real statistical freaks for their prime that also play 20 years, like a dude that averages 6 blocks or steals a game for like 6 years and then 2-3 a game for the rest lol

But yeah, sounds unreal no matter how you slice it

Yeah all of these pretty much require playing 20+ years without falling off completely lol

I do wonder what block totals for Wilt and steal totals for West would’ve looked like. They’ve been estimated to have gotten 5-8/game on average during their primes

LeBron could realistically stick it out 2-3 more years and go after Stockton’s record. The rest are going to be rough for anyone to tackle.

Edit: Suppose I should point out that I didn’t mean that he could break it in 2-3 years, I mean that he would go after it over the next 2-3 seasons and see if he has a shot at breaking it/where his body is.

Lebron’s accumulation of the 5 major stats is fucking absurd

Need to send this to the guy in another forum who tried telling me Kyrie was better than Stockton

There’s only one unbreakable stat: 48.5 mpg

Rules will change, freaks will happen. 48.5 and maybe ²⁸⁄₃₂ FTs will never happen again.

Rebounds is most definitely the most unbreakable. Mainly because Wilt and Bill Russel were averaging like 25 rebounds a game. That could be considered one of the most unbreakable in all of sports. If you were to take out the extreme outliers and try to consider it from a more modern timeframe, it’s still very impressive. Tim Duncan finished with 15000 rebounds. The next active player closest to him is Lebron, who is still 3,000 short.

I really think Lebron is making that record untouchable, especially since we’re now in the era of load management. KD has an outside shot at breaking Kareem’s. But I’m pretty confident in saying no one will break Lebron’s record in my lifetime.

I can see the block record being broken. It won’t be by Wemby, because throughout his career, his offense will be too important for the Spurs. But if there was to come some type of Wemby/Gobert hybrid. An elite shot-blocker with great length, but offensive shortcomings so he’s allowed to focus 100% on defense at all-times. That record is going down.

I think it’s possible for the steals record to be broken, but still tough. Chris Paul finished about 600 short.

The assists record is never being broken. Stockton averaged at least 12 assists a game for 8 years straight, with 5 of those years being 13+ apg. For 16 years in his career he played 82 games. I’d say that is just as unbreakable as the rebounding record. As the league has now shifted to favor scoring-first guards, Chris Paul is one of the last true pass-first guards. Even he finished 3000 assists short.

stockton’s steals record is the one people sleep on. 3265 is absurd when you consider the modern game - gambling less on defense means fewer steal opportunities. the closest active player is cp3 with 2684 and hes basically done. that one might actually last longer than the assist record

Only one man alone accounts for 40% of the unbreakable records… Stockton goat?

I’d put steals on the way more likely side.

If you look at stockton’s career, he only had 5 years significantly above that average.. prime years he was around 2.4, but other than that his range was around 1.7. That’s doable IMO. You need a guy who has a couple great seaons, 4-5 good seasons and some decent longevity. Stockton’s record is in part because he played 1500 games.

The craziest part is Stockton’s records could both be much higher. He didn’t become a starter until he was 25, and the Jazz played at either the slowest or close to the slowest pace in the league once Sloan became the coach. Stockton could’ve also definitely played another couple of years if he’d been chasing someone else’s record.

Some people have mentioned a player like Haliburton, but even with longevity Haliburton hasn’t come close to peak Stockton’s rate. His best assists per 100 was 16.0 in 2024, which was below Stockton’s career average of 16.8 and wouldn’t even crack the top 10 of Stockton’s seasons for assists/100.

Put me in coach I gotta prove this guy wrong (I’m 27 and asthmatic)

the wilt rebounding stat is insane. 17 boards for 20 years is 2k create-a-player numbers

2.7 blocks a game isn’t more breakable than 2.33 steals a game. Wemby ain’t playing 70 games a year for 20 years

The pace context on Stockton’s assists is what people miss — he averaged 14.5 APG in ‘87-88 and hit 13+ for five straight seasons. CP3 peaked at 11.6 APG in ‘07-08 as the closest modern comp. It’s not just the longevity, the peak volume is equally untouchable.

How far off is KD on points ?

He’s said that he’ll play til 50 if teams let him

If they had counted blocks from the beginning, KAJ would have an extra 1000+ and probably a better reputation for defense all-time.

John Stockton was a fucking machine

To put it more into perspective, Rodman averaged 13.1 Rebounds per game, averaged 73 games over his first 12 seasons, played until he was 38, and isn’t even halfway to Wilt’s record. 

And he’s widely regarded as the best modern rebounder by far. He’s got 5 of the top 82 best rebound per game seasons, and is the only guy in the top 82 that played any seasons after 1979.

If he couldn’t do it, no one ever will.

Flagg aint breaking it bruh not even close I don’t think he’ll even have a 20 year career

The hardest part of the assists record is that you would have to be able to play defense at the end of your career. Even if you were able to get the assists, your not gonna stay on the floor if you’re a turnstile, and with the athleticism present in the league at that position, it’s hard to imagine some one at 40 being able to keep up on that end. That’s why Trae Young has zero chance to break this record. 

No they aren’t. The NBA is young, and it isn’t just going to disappear once we are dead. I don’t see why the NBA wouldn’t continue on for hundreds more years at least.

The league expanded from 18 to 22 teams in 1976-77. The league didn’t even have 28 teams until the 90s. So, since we’ve had a full league of nearly 30 teams, 4 out of 5 of those records have changed. 3PM has changed too, so it’s 5 out of 6 major statistical records. 5 out of 6 of these unbreakable records have become what they are in the last 40 years. Who’s to say what happens in the next 100 years?

Plus, players are specializing and training from a younger age. NBA Africa is a thing now. They are about to make a league in europe. All of this is bringing more talent to the league that is more capable of breaking these records than ever before.

Actually LeBron is potentially two seasons away from the assist record, casual

Dillon Brooks gonna break all five next year.

With load management these days, most will be untouchable.

The sheer volume of games guys used to play makes these counting stats records insurmountable (including for LeBron, who only missed 44 games in the first 11 years of his career)

You left out Curry’s three point record. Nobody is going to break that record either. Yes, there are some current players who can average 225-275 made three pointers per season, but how many of them will have the 20 years careers required to break the record, which is not even finished yet? Curry made 190 in half a season last year so the total will be 4500 or more; if he retires in 2028.

Last time someone averaged 17 boards a game for a season was Rodman in 93-94. Only once in the 2000’s has someone averaged 16 (Drummond)

A lot of these records seem impossible to break because the style of play or the way the rules are enforced has changed over time. But there’s no reason why those things can’t change back. I think they’ll all get broken in time.

Blocks not unbreakable

At some point someone will come along who is better and more durable than LeBron. It’s just the nature of things. He might be a generation or two away, but it’s going to happen.

Assists are going to be hard to break because they rely heavily on teammates and Stockton benefited from heavily favorable scorekeeping. Rebounds might be out of reach simply as a product of better field goal percentages.

For the other three it’s just a matter of time though and if he can stay healthy (a big if, I realize) I think Wemby will comfortably clear the block record.

Stockton’s steals record is probably the one I’d flag as the most unbreakable once you adjust for pace and era. League average steals per game has dropped from ~9.0 in the late 80s to ~7.2 now because the game has more threes and less man-to-man pressure. You’d basically need someone averaging 2.5 steals for 18+ years straight to even get close, and nobody’s done that since CP3 fell off

Wemby could push Hakeem

So this is going to be unpopular but the point streak is actually more unbreakable then I think most people think. I say that because 2 times we’ve seen players out pace LeBron from the time they were allowed to come into the league until they retired (Kareem and Malone). Obviously people will point to mileage with LeBron and those early years, but I still think recovering in your peak physical years pales in comparison to a career like Kareem’s who played in an era with more back to backs, teams didn’t fly private, and there weren’t modern advances in training and recovery (stem cell therapy for example). Obviously if LeBron continues to play a few more years it seemingly looks more unbreakable, however it should be noted that it has been outpaced previously.

This assumes 82 games per season. While the current vibe is that the season is too long as is, who knows what will happen with the expansion. If the season gets extended to 86 or 90 games, it could be a bit easier.

Scoring has also gone up lately, so maybe 30PPG will be easier in the future.

I hope there’s a tall kid in HS that sees this post and becomes determined enough to be the greatest rebounder to ever live. To my mind that’d be the greatest achievement out of all of these, because the current NBA also requires that kid be damn good at something else too.

Isn’t it interesting that the points and assists leaders are the best at that actual skill they just have the longevity award?

Jordan is the best scorer and magic is the best passer… In my humble opinion followed up by Jason Kidd who was magical

John Stockton might be the most underrated player ever.

Olajuwon had 3830, not 3820. Not bothering to check the others.

Every recrod will be broke in time but I think the most difficult is probably rebounds

Scoring will naturally increase with time , so it’s just a matter of time

Basketball is increasingly more efficient, leading to less rebounds

Rebounds are imo the hardest to break. Theres less boards to grab now, plus all the 3s being shot lead to more bouncing away from the big men.

Everyone thought KAJ points was unbreakable. These are really hard to break but eventually a freak of nature will come along with insane durability and longevity and take these down to especially with modern medicine always improving

I know it seems crazy but there’s on avg 100 possessions per game so it wouldn’t be THAT crazy to get 17 rebounds in a game or 11 assists.

Jokic somehow managed 27.7 points, 12.9 rebounds, and 10.7 assists last season if Google is to be trusted. So imagine someone playing like that but NOT the primary scorer of the team. Imagine if Jokic could focus on the other stats and not points. He’d easily break every league record outside points.

Points and assists are the only feasible ones in the the future NBA

Ricky Henderson coming for Stockton from beyond the grave.

Does your math assume 82 game seasons? Stars play close to 65 today, so bump up those season totals.

If Wemby has a healthy career, I think career blocks is very obtainable for him.

Hakeem has more blocks than Stockton has assists??

im not gonna claim to see the future or anything, but Flagg is not breaking the points record lol

Wilt’s alleged block record is impossible

I agree with your order, although LeBron is pushing the points record to an absurd level the more he keeps playing. I remember people trying to project how many points he’d end up with and whether he’d break the record, and he’s completely smashed it passed all those projections lol.

Also Wilt’s “true” block record is probably be even more unbreakable than his rebound record.

Wemby’s build means his longevity is going to tank. Being a giant stick insect means that aging will not agree with you.

I don’t hate the career stats, its some of the single game stat lines that I think need era sub-categories.

These numbers are all assuming these hypothetical future players play absolutely zero post season games

Rebounds and assists.

The game has changed so much that this style of play will never come close to those numbers.

Lebron could pass CP3 in assists if he plays 2 more seasons tbqh. Or has a monster year.

All these records are breakable. Averaging 31ppg for 20 years sounds insane, but Lebron is at 26.8ppg because he played 23 years, so if a player could play for 26-27 years the per game numbers start to look at lot more breakable. 27 years playing 72 games while averaging 23ppg gets you to about 45,000 points. Another part of it is how the game will evolve, with the rise of the 3 point shot and raise in ppg we may see a SG/SF average 10+reb and play for 25+ years which will get him very close

All lot of these are historically contextual and will be broken only when the game rules change in a way thats condusive to breaking it. The prime example would be the points record. If the nba decides that the product would make more money if we had 150 point games, all the records associated with points will be broken. Same thing for all others. Blocks are probably the hardest just because players are better, theres no way wilt.or hakeem or anyone averages 6 blocks over a span of 10 years game unless somete rule chage enables that stack to tick up. With the current rules i can see the 100 point game falling in a random game during the regular season.

In 2003 when Lebron was drafted, wasn’t Kareem’s scoring record “unbreakable” too?

Yes you have to be REALLY great at these things for a REALLY long time..and be healthy… but records get broken.

Lebron being on there proved that.

Something tells me Wemy will break that block record assuming he stays relatively healthy in his career.

Its really crazy how far Lebron has taken the points record. We were talking about will he ever pass Kareem and now he’s gapped him by 5k and will most likely get it to 45k total.

Making it like a 6-7k gap from First to Second place, which is absolutely ridiculous. Kareem had the record for damn near 39 years. I just cant see it happening with the gap added on top of the already once unbreakable record

Points will be broken most likely, it’s not that impressive

I think steals are for sure breakable, someone with Daniels’ skillset just a much better player. 

I think there are a lot of players averaging more than 2.7 blocks per year

Stockton is sucha fraud