Jaylen Brown took the 2nd most long midranges in the league last season. However, he converted at below league average efficiency
browns always been a tough shot taker which is both a strength and a weakness. when those fall he looks unstoppable but the numbers say hed be better off hunting more rim looks or catch and shoot 3s. celtics offense works when the ball moves not when anyone settles for long 2s
That’s a lot of words to say he’s analytics hitIer
Jaylen Brown loses money on every sale but he makes up for it in volume
Jaylen “costco rotisserie chicken is a loss leader” Brown
That chicken is fucking most valuable poultry levels of delicious
Don’t get me wrong, the rotisserie chicken is fantastic. But it’s only the 7th best item at Costco.
Jaylen Brown tells me, “Don’t worry about it. We’re making money on the losses.” How do you make money on losses? You tell me. I’m just an old dinosaur.
You like lose 24 games but win 56.
except volume is zero sum. every shot he takes is a shot someone else could have taken. You can’t say “well, if we shoot the ball 100 times more than the opponent, we can afford a lower shooting percent”
You described exactly the way the Celtics lost to Miami a bunch of times. Kept taking shots for no reason and kept missing until the Heat were back in it. Pretty sure that’s how Boston lost a few games to the Sixers as well, at no point did he stop to think he may give the ball to someone else.
They also lost to golden state in the same way. Brown and Tatum would just start chucking 3s at the beginning of the shot clock.
That and Curry
I mean Curry is the absolute X factor of that series
Yeah, Curry destroyed us
This is kinda why I keep saying that they moved Brown out of Tatum’s way. It’s fine if one guy does it, and it’s the guy who’s supposed to do it. But if two guys do it you’re not winning a title this way.
“But but finals mvp” with Jrue, White, Tatum who deserved that fmvp equally if not more than Brown
Did they not win a title that way?
That’s the joke
It’s hard to tell in this age of anti analytics. I should have know from the flare
That’s how OpenAI is worth a trillion dollars.
His offense especially isn’t, it’s his defense that impact stats will suggest is below replacement
His offense just isn’t Tatum’s and very much isn’t in the same universe as the actual MVP candidates
He did flash some MVP-level play for a month or two in the middle of the season. Just by eye test and vague memories of the season, he had a run of 30+ games with a couple 40s thrown in, in which he was decisive getting to his mid-range(and not taking long 2s), and had some good passing. If he maintained that the rest of the season, even with the 1st round collapse, I think the conversation around JB is completely different.
I think a lot of people remember that period, and forget how bad he can look when trying to force being a scorer.
no thats yang hansen
The final solution…to an equation.
ur on the internet, not grade school. you can spell hitler.
I’ve watched the Celtics lose two playoffs in a row settling for 3s a lot
That’s part of it, but having one of your ball dominant players not be a great passer (though he is 100% better now than he was 3 years ago) also contributes to that problem. He’s also not a good catch and shoot player which also contributes to that problem.
Jaylen Brown is the type of player who needs the ball in his hands to he impactful offensively, while also not being an amazing passer, or an amazing scorer. Obviously being league average effeciency while finishing 4th in PPG is still good, but doesn’t make him elite.
He also turns the ball over a fuckton. He was 5th in turnovers per game, you have to go to 10th on that list to find a player with less assists than him.
Doesn’t mean he’s a necessarily negative player, but there’s a reason we got almost nothing for him. He’s always been overrated.
To me he’s always seemed like the type of player where he deserves the max, but giving him the max can potentially cripple a team. Especially the higher level he’s eligible for after making All-NBA.
He deserved the max under the old CBA when you could argue that the league as a whole could sustain about 50-60 max contracts any given year. I don’t think that’s true anymore.
Just because we lost while shooting a lot of threes doesn’t mean we lost because we shot a lot of threes though.
I don’t have the stats in front of me, but I’m pretty sure the decent majority of our threes were either open or wide open. On a team full of guys who can shoot, you absolutely don’t want to tell them to stop taking open threes. Once you do that, the defense collapses and the twos you get are going to be even lower quality than before. The Celtics also simply don’t have a lot of guys who can penetrate the defense. That’s probably a roster flaw, but you have to play to your strengths. I want Sam Hauser taking threes not twos
to your point, the celtics offense with tatum on the court in that series was fantastic. and it was horrible with brown on the court. idk if the threes were the problem…
It’s, for the worst, the narrative that non-Cs fans got from all but the very best media after the series. It’s lazy and I’ve never heard someone say it that I’m confident watched the 7 games. The Philly fans I talk to know that the real series story was that their players played better than ours
If you watch the clutch minutes of game 7, there’s literally 1 play that can be described as ‘settling’ for 3 or skipping offensive process at all. There’s like 1 Sam Hauser grenade caused by JB, and then the rest is good offensive process.
I got out a pad of paper and did it play by play for each of the games that had clutch minutes, for the discord I’m in full of basketball nerds, because I couldn’t believe how stupid people were being. It’s just not true that the C’s couldn’t or didn’t play a good offensive process in the playoffs. They were still playing basically the way you’d expect, Brown White and Pritchard tasked with creating (all were fairly bad), shooters shooting good shots, a huge amount of Brown possessions that didn’t have a process
We lost to the Sixers because they were - very unambiguously - a few possessions better than us at basketball in 4 of the 7 games. We lost basically all the 4 factors, but shooting location was a strength. Embiid was a better superstar than anyone on our team by miles, and Queta’s habit of screening with his hands finally caught up to him.
I still think the biggest reason we lost was indeed Embiid, and nothing other than that. We have (maybe had, I haven’t checked the numbers on Mitchell without Towns) noone to defend “huge” big men like Towns, Embiid or Jokic. We used to have Horford that was one of the best in the league, but after he left noone was even remotely ok at it.
Queta Is a good switch defender, and a good enough rim protector, but I don’t think he’s not very good at a 1vs1 defender, he fouls too much for it.
Yes. He was a top 15 center all year, and all year my take on that was just, like, ‘if they’re gonna let him keep screening like a lineman, he’s basically Jarrett Allen.’ Every game against Embiid he was fucking hopeless on both ends, they’d call the legit offensive fouls, he’d add in legit defensive fouls and couldn’t match up as a rebounder either. It was just hopeless across a full game.
We were the team with BY FAR the worse star power. Like JB struggling in man vs Oubre (and PG) and I give Oubre his flowers there. Tatum had some great games. But Embiid was just a full unambiguous superstar while he was out there.
We used to have Horford that was one of the best in the league, but after he left noone was even remotely ok at it.
I remember back in Horford’s first years with the team he actually would struggle quite a bit with rebounding vs. big centers. During this series I felt like we were right back there. Hope Queta can figure it out a bit more esp when Tatum plays, and I hope Mitch can hit enough free throws and stay healthy, because he can rebound with anyone
I really don’t know how to judge Mitch: he’s been too broken, and when he played he had probably the best or second best “huge” big men defender beside him in Towns.
Towns is also the opposite of Queta: he get lost in everything that is not 1vs1 against big men, and he fouls so much as well, but he killed Jokic Embiid and Wemby.
towns deserves his flowers but embiid used all his gas to kinda beat you guys lol
usually embiid eats and fouls him out but im not sure that guy exists anymore
Yeah I definitely don’t trust KAT to defend Embiid both guys healthy, we just were the team that actually played a series against a somewhat healthy Embiid
And without Horford this time who used to just have an insanely good read on Embiid, him and Marc Gasol just understood what Embiid wanted better than anyone else
embiid used all his gas to kinda beat you guys
He was tired from the series of course, but I think the bigger problem was that from minute 1 of each game he just did not have the lateral quickness to play anything but a deep drop against the Brunson high PNR. And Brunson is like the best in the NBA specifically at frying drop coverage.
are you counting last year? because their offense was actually really good in the sixers series with brown off the floor last year. they got wrecked in his minutes though. as though he doesn’t fit the team or something….
they also won tatum’s minutes in that series handily, for anyone thinking this is garbage time distortion. just example number 728 of brown putting up points and the team still playing way better without him.
Which explains why they traded him for legendary foot passer Paul George
i mean PG is a better fit on both ends
Hes just way older and not nearly as good at this point of his career while getting paid the same.
But imo Boston will surprise people next season.
they’re gonna be really good. PG and robinson are a great fit to their team. they have a lot of young players who will have another year of experience. and people really sleep on tatum. he maximizes their team way better than brown. they might not get a top 2 seed again because of how many eastern teams improved but top 4 seems totally achievable to me
Their only concern is injuries with PG and Robinson but if they avoid those I fully believe they might end up being better than the 76ers lmao
i’ve been saying i think they have a really good chance to be better than the sixers. they have a super balanced two way roster with a lot of underrated role players. meanwhile the sixers defense looks incredibly suspect to me, and their offense feels like it’s gonna be clunky.
i think a lot of people will be surprised at how both those teams’ seasons play out
It’s Boston’s turn to believe in the ghost of Paul George ig lmao.
I promise you no ones believing in PG up here.
NBA fans are notoriously bad at detangling winning impact and usage. JT can absorb the usage next season and the winning impact is coming from team chemistry, schemes, and effort
I don’t think there’s anything to be surprised about unless the conference finals.
Tatum missed 80% of the season and they finished easily in second place in the East. They were nearly a second round exit, with Tatum missing game 7. The East is better, maybe even moreso depending where LeBron goes, but them finishing with a top 2-3 seed won’t be surprising at all.
Tell that to the idiots telling me we’ll be in the play in
he came back from suspension and looked like 70% of prime PG, which is still a great player. i think you’re right and that he is going to surprise people.
People who think the Celtics are going to be a play in team or below the 5-6th seed are fools. Theyre essentially swapping out jaylen brown for jayson tatum and Paul George. The contract isnt good, but paying brown into his mid 30s on a max contract is very likely a lot worse. It gives them more flexibility and picks going forward, and gives them an pooprtunity to see if Paul george has one or two more runs left in the tank.
Do I love the trade? No. Do I have a better idea if there was really no better deal on the table? No.
It is funny more and more people are realizing just how bad of a passer JB was but then you look at PG’s numbers and it’s like ah right even when he was a permanently doubled offensive superstar he was basically the previous version of JB
the one way PG might remove some gum from our offense is that he is actually elite efficiency on his 3s, so I hope we can get him to kinda correct his gameplay into using that aspect more, whether it’s movement or standing at long range or just letting it fly
He 100% can’t be any kind of play connector
Brown is just not elite at getting to the rim. He is really good at scoring when he’s inside but getting there easily seems to be a problem for him in the past, whether that’s because of the C’s personnel remains to be seen lol
It’s because his handles aren’t good enough in traffic. You can even see it in the compilation. Getting to the rim as a wing is tough when you’re not confident taking more than a couple dribbles with your left.
Getting to the rim as a wing is tough when you’re not confident taking more than a couple dribbles with your left.
You can when you’re an elite shooter from 3, but Jaylen Brown is not that either.
Yeah that means you’re not a good player. If you always have to take tough shots… that’s bad. It’s either bad bbiq and not knowing how to generate a good shot, or you can’t generate a good shot.
Oftentimes in important games those become the only shots available in a significant portion of possessions. Willingness to take those and ability to make them are very important at the very highest levels of the sport. However analytics, I think, are predisposed to just see them as bad shots inherently.
also, is anyone that efficient in pivotal playoff games? brunson shot 42% from the field in the finals, and that was enough to win the championship against really a tough defense that included the DPOY. do nba front offices actually think brunson turning down those tough shots and only taking 3s and easy layups would have made the knicks offense better?
I’m oddly invested in Brown’s upcoming season.
I just didn’t watch enough of him to have a real take. Will try to change that.
He flashes big time. When he’s on he can single handily win a game. On the other hand he’s got to have some of the worst tunnel vision and handle I’ve ever seen outside of big men. The flash really covers his massive deficiencies.
This sounds exactly how you’d describe someone who takes “too many” long 2’s, tbh
They’re not just long twos, they’re turnaround 17 footers from literally anywhere.
but boyyyy when they were falling it was a lot of fun
I also also felt like when you watch them in person Tatum would have like the quietest 30 point game while brown would score a loud 20 if that makes sense?
Like there was never any doubt in my mind that Tatum was better but brown was more fun to watch live usually, not that you build a team around that though
I fully agree with you honestly. Brown is loud and less efficient, Tatum is quiet but you look up and he’s one rebound away from a triple double
Tatum’s rebounding since coming back has been crazy. Dude is crashing the boards now, I love it!
You have to remember what do you do for a team when you’re not in the zone. Tatum on his off nights still has elite gravity. Go back and watch the finals, the entire gameplay was to have him collapse the defense and kick it out for a wide open 3. Even though he didnt light it up as a shooter his defense was a plus even if not elite, and his gravity/playmaking was elite. One of the major reasons they lost in 2022 is because he turned the ball over a shitload while also being ice cold from the floor. His playmaking has improved leaps and bounds since then and that was the major difference. That and a stacked roster.
His defense is the biggest reason they won. Its the reason Luka couldn’t kill them with the pnr lobs and was instead trying to iso while hobbled. Tatum just existing is basically why Brown had the opportunity to guard Luka the way he did lol. They definitely gave out the most casual take mvp I’ve ever seen in a finals outside of Iggy stealing one.
Tatum got robbed for real did absolutely everything for them except for have a good shooting %
2022 (and prior years) really pushed how he couldn’t create for others himself. He could make space and create the looks, he just didn’t get the ball to them. He would force a shot or turn it over.
It’s a big difference now, he’s much better at actually moving the ball in those situations.
Dude yes, watching JB in person was so entertaining. His game feels so forceful and like pure will power at times, while JT seems to float under the radar and fill the stat sheet. The dichotomy was interesting to see.
The “problem” is that Tatum’s “floating under the radar” makes everyone around him better while Brown imposing his will seems to make everybody around him worse, or at least less effective.
That’s the narrative painted by some of these metrics at least.
Having someone controlling the floor matters though. Besides our centers I kind of think the team is going to get pushed around. Like old man PG and white/pp might be good, but they aren’t a physical force on the floor
Not the same and also a bit of cope, but PG had a very quiet series against us yet still averaged an efficient ~18 ppg. He was also pretty consistent and I think we saw how he could add defense/spacing to our roster even if he doesn’t catch your eye.
Meanwhile there were a couple of games where I thought Maxey or Embiid were killing us cause they were hitting tougher shots, yet I would look up at the stat sheet and they’d be 12⁄29 for 30 points or something. They’re obviously still better than PG and get more attention from the defense, but it’s just interesting how your eyes can be deceiving when you’re watching players hit tough shots. My mind would immediately go “god we can’t stop them” with Maxey and Embiid a lot even if they weren’t efficient that game
Browns biggest weakness is he’s one of the worst off ball defenders at his position for a starter. The tracking analytics kill him for that, and the media isn’t watching defensive rotations closely so they’re shocked by teams not valuing him at a max deal.
I find this especially interesting because from the eye test at least he seems like a pretty solid on ball defender. I haven’t paid enough attention to his off ball work to have an opinion about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/7JVmytZdZR I made this post the other day if your curious. TLDR his on ball matchup difficulty is way down meaning it can’t make up for his piss poor offball awareness.
This was very informative, thank you.
You’re welcome.
+1 to this. Info likes this contextualizes what a lot of us have known about jb. You take a lot of bad with the good with JB. It’s not cope to agree that extending the guy for 70m is suicide for this teams window. Unless you have a true elite MVP like bron he can’t be your #2
There has been a quiet contingent of fans who have been wanting brown gone. This is the toughest part about sports because the guy is a dog, an absolute monster work ethic, reps his city, etc. it makes it easier for me though because he flirts with antisemitism with defending Kyrie, donda sports connection, and BHI retweet which he then defended saying it was a mistake but not a big deal and left it up
I havent watched him much but that’s the same impression I had. All-NBA 1st team some nights, All-Star most nights
Yup. Him falling down or getting stripped off the dribble is a hallmark of the experience
His numbers will dip as they now have 4 players who really need the ball to create offense. Contract wont look as good
It’ll be interesting to see how he looks on another team. Is his shot quality actually decreasing the offensive output of the team, or did Boston just have a loaded supporting cast?
He doesn’t move the ball at all. That’s not an exaggeration. He averaged more turnovers than assists until very recently. He’s a ball stopper and he doesn’t shoot enough 3s or consistently get to the line enough to compensate for how much he slows them down
He led the league in drives per game and passed the ball < 30% of the time, 9th lowest of everyone with 10+ drives.
That Philly’s series put that on full display. Head down, push off with his left. Turnover. Forced up difficult shot.
He did that all season long. It was very rarely called.
JB was sort of the odd man out of the Celtics “system” that the rest fit into. Maybe an overly simplistic description but it’s kind of how it is.
I think his fit with Philly is going to be half awesome half comedy
Imagine Kobe’s love for tough shots but just a bit worse. He can go on a tear tho.
JB didn’t get to the rim enough last season; only 16% of his shots were there, compared to 14% being long 2s.
His shot diet with Tatum was much, much better even if it was on lower volume.
I felt like at first it was a carry-over from being injured last playoffs and having to adjust (which I thought he did pretty well considering) and then he started the year on an absolute heater from the midrange so he kind of fell in love with it. Missed his rim pressure. Hope it’s not due to waning athleticism.
Lots of these are late shot clock.
You know a good way to improve your efficiency? Dump grenades on your role players late in possessions so you don’t have to take tough shots. Doesn’t necessarily make the team better though.
Yeah, because he dribbles the air out of the ball until there’s no time left to pass to anyone, so that he gets to take the shot
He is extremely average among 20pt scorers for number of dribbles and time of possession.
Average for number of dribbles to get to below average efficiency… Isn’t that implying he’s a worse creator with the same time of possession compared to others?
He is an average efficency scorer.
Just below actually. Also about to be the highest paid player in the league.
So basically late-stage Kobe Bryant
That’s the case with all these “Brown is terrible” stats. He was the guy having to take shots, which makes sense when the team literally has no other go-to guys. White was absolutely atrocious this year.
Except his advanced stats are just as bad the rest of his career with healthy Tatum
White was elite this year according to every impact metric we have access to. He definitely sucked in the playoffs though
He was elite at everything but shooting. Issue was his shooting was extra bad in the playoffs. White was an elite ball handler, defender, and playmaker.
Not as far as making shots. I don’t doubt his defense had a big impact. He was not making shots though.
White doesn’t take these shots. He is super selective about when he shoots. It’s good and bad.
It’s not bad at all he’s a role player. The issue is when people insert him into star player conversations when he doesn’t have that level of responsibility.
Agree. If he was responsible for taking the hard shots, his efficiency wouldn’t be close to where it is. Very solid player of course. I just get annoyed by the conversation that ignores his role.
Cade was in the same boat roster wise. Although he’s around the same inefficiency he’s a significantly better playmaker. There’s ways to be effective even in those scenarios.
Cade is a better playmaker, turnover suppressor, off ball defender, and does a lot of little things that Brown doesn’t do.
Cade plays a much more valuable position as Point Forward
why was their offense better when he was on the bench then, if they needed him to take all these shots?
He was the guy having to take shots, which makes sense when the team literally has no other go-to guys.
That doesn’t explain why this has been a trend nearly his entire career.
Are they a late shot clock because Brown got handed a grenade, or are they late shot clock because Brown pounded the air out of the ball for a little too long?
He should have been dumping them to PP considering he both led the league in grenade attempts and was 7th in grenade fg%.
The Jaylen Brown slander is going to continue all season lmao
I don’t understand comments like this. It feels like everything post trade has been:
A: “Why did they trade Brown?!?!”
B: “It’s because of A, B, and C. Here is the evidence.”
A: “Why are you slandering Brown?! Why are we still talking about this?!?!”
He started the year pretty hot from mid range so the fact that the long 2s fell below average efficiency means it fell off a cliff lol
At one point he was shooting 62%TS around December. That means for the rest of the year, he probably was shooting 54 to 55%TS.
It’s the off-season, so there’s nothing else for these people to talk about. Literally everybody will forget about the Jaylen Brown and analytics debate as soon as the season begins.
nah i can already see the posts 10 games into the season comparing brown’s and PG’s ppg
No way, this is going to be a constant talking point the entire season if either team is over or underperforming, and literally every time they matchup.
jaylen brown was the worst post 2nd quarter time out box out guy in the league. brad is a genius. SLURP
advanced stats a lot of the time tend to be a mixture of obvious stuff like:
Brown’s high usage, takes a ton of tough middies, not the most efficent at them, bad offball d, and TO issues.
That stuff tends to be important to basketball
Only against good teams, hence why the Celtics consistently struggled against Top Ten teams with Brown and no Tatum, while dominating with Tatum and no Brown
I know way more about how Jaylen brown plays basketball now than I ever thought id know about any one player in my life
Did you know he also had a worse turnover rate than Julius Randle last year though
Guys you can stop now, I am convinced Brown is one of the worst players in the league and Philly got fleeced
Are we sure he’s an nba level player? Philly should relegate him to the Delaware Blue Coats
This is such a stupid stat. Who else was gonna take the shots on the team ? Sometimes those shots are needed whether it’s make or miss
Bostons very smart front office disagrees with you
Pritchard. In fact thats what happened in the games brown missed and pp put up 27 on good efficiency.
I know I’m in the minority on this, but I actually think Boston’s strategy with trying to turn PP into their own version of Brunson is a good idea. While I don’t think he’s going to be quite as good as Brunson, I do think he’ll be more effective than Brown. He’s also the player that worries me the most when I watch Knicks-Celtics games - there were more than a couple games where it seemed like he’d get hot, Celtics would play really well, but for some reason he gets sent to the bench and then I watch the offense start to sputter.
People acting like it’s the dumbest thing ever when he is a t10 iso scorer by effiecency and a good midrange shooter while being one of the best turnover suppressors in the league. He had over a 5⁄1 ast to tov in the playoffs.
i’m ngl i think people underrate him because he’s short and white, and was a bench player for a while. they can’t fathom that he has developed into a legitimately high level starting guard and an extremely efficient and low mistake offensive player
My memory of the G7 against Philly is vague and probably several things went wrong there but I recall the Celtics’ offense really going to shit when they let PP rot in the corner thru the whole 4th so that JB could do his MVP LARP. PP’s inhumanly TO-free dribble penetration always creates chaos and I’m confident that his contributions will scale up well.
The same Payton Pritchard who shot 42% from the field and 31% from three in the playoffs?
Shocking that a roleplayer had a hot streak when teams aren’t even scheaming against them like they do against Brown or Tatum.
why were those shots needed? their offense was better without brown. even if you think there’s some amount of statistical noise there, they clearly found plenty of efficient shots without a dude dominating the ball to shoot a bunch of long twos.
playoffs, same story. their offense in the sixers series was great in tatum’s minutes and terrible in brown’s minutes despite them obviously sharing the court a decent bit. brown is an eye test merchant. they generate better shots without his temu kobe impression and it’s been that way for virtually his whole career
Who else was gonna take the shots on the team ?
The other very good offensive players they had?
The Celtics had a +10.8 net rating this year when Brown was off the court. They were 9-2 in games he missed. Their offensive rating when he was off the floor was the equivalent of the second-best offense in the NBA behind only Denver.
This is the quickest I’ve ever gotten tired of post trade discussion. None of the hit pieces that keep coming are going to convince me of what I see with my own eyes. He might not be a true #1 but he’s been a top ~25ish player who won the fmvp 2 years ago for good reason.
he’s been a top ~25ish player who won the fmvp 2 years ago for good reason.
Well he has the second largest contract in NBA history, so I don’t think “top ~25ish” is helping the case. He will be making $66 million three years from now when he is 32.
And that Finals MVP was among the more controversial ones ever. Tatum became the first player to ever lead his team in points, rebounds and assists for a Finals and not win MVP. It’s an awesome accomplishment for him, but not really a reason to justify the contract going forward or his overall standing in the league in, say, three years.
I just don’t understand why the Celtics weren’t bullish on signing the largest contract in the history of sports for a Top 25 talent who will probably get worse by the end of it?
I can’t name 15 players better than him right now. I have him top 12-14, depending on taste. I think anything below 15 would be ridiculous.
That’s what happens when you have to carry and Derrick White shot 39 percent from the field lmao
so why did he shoot even worse from there in 2025?
Makes you think
The Jaylen trade justification machine is working overtime
Some of those are just looking for fouls and I hate it
This is an extremely overlooked aspect of his game, and I hate it. He bitches and complains about the refs and foul calls enough that you’d think this sub would be aware of it…
He has sub-par handles and poor court vision that leads him to tunnel vision. It’s as simple as that.
When he drives into traffic he either: tries to shoulder through traffic to throw up a shitty layup attempt and bait for a foul, takes an ill-advised turnaround jumper, or hucks up a desperation long 2 that rims out and yells at the ref looking for a foul.
People need to use their eyes and actually watch the games.
He’s a really good player, but people have convinced themselves he’s a different kind of player than he actually is.
And super low assist numbers. Watch him without the ball. He stands there.
[STATS] Sources have confirmed that in 11 games that Jaylen Brown was listed as inactive, when the Celtics played. The national average on gas was rated at 3.32 dollars per gallon per 36 minutes across the NBA.
During the playoffs, in the games in which Jaylen Brown started, gas was rated at 4.18 dollars per gallon per 36.
A 25.86% increase in the national average across the NBA.
Source: AAA. Ti-84 Calculator.
He started off the season shooting great from 2. I think he read into that and fell in love a little too much.
Celtics propaganda machine working overtime to ensure that we all think JB is a bum and they didn’t get fleeced.
We didn’t get fleeced. We just couldn’t get a better package. Stevens isn’t Nico Harrison.
If it is Celtics propaganda, why did no other team, including yours, make a better offer?
The Celtics valued him more than other teams in the league not the other way around lmao
the thing with jaylen is those midrange looks are pure rhythm shots - when he’s hot he hits them in streaks and looks unguardable. but when he’s cold it’s just wasted possessions. the variance is crazy. celtics need him picking his spots better not cutting them out entirely
what are we even doing here man
The midrange volume is partly structural in Boston’s offense — Brown generates a lot of those looks as the release valve when the initial action breaks down. That’s different from guys who get their midranges from designed sets (elbow catches, post-ups). The difficulty adjustment on off-the-dribble resets explains some of the efficiency gap, but he’s still taking too many for the return.
She should have passed to D white he was automatic from 3 last year
Am I crazy to think that this shouldn’t be an issue in the Sixer’s offense?
The sixer’s play very fast in transition due to their 1 and 2 constantly moving. They don’t typically let teams put them into hard iso positions until end of games/playoffs.
Instead they tend to have soft isos where one person is making the play because they were open in transition.
Under Nick Nurse this team has done nothing but learn how to play smallball and take advantage of size mismatches due to most teams being taller than them.
If the play stalls out and Brown forces a long 2, I’m good with that, and if every play is stalling out and forcing Brown into iso ball then at that point its a coaching issue and not Brown’s fault.
The Sixer’s should not have a problem with accommodating Brown because he has a very similar archetype as Oubre, but better rebounding and a lot more assists.
In distance traveled per game last season Maxey is #1, Edgecomb #10 and Brown was #31. (players with less than 10 games played don’t count)
So interesting to me. I watched Kobe, AI, and KG growing up. I’m starting to think a lot of players in the late 90’s and early 2000’s would struggle in this era.
Hard to predict given there’s way more spacing now. I think it’s gonna be on their mentality. If Kobe is willing enough to accept that not every shot he takes is the best shot and it might be better to pass, he’d be a way more efficient player cause of better shot diet. Otherwise, yeah, he’d just be a chucker nowadays lol
Demar? De-No
And the Sixers just let the best rebounder go, Drummond is gone
And that’s why he got bounced
It says the league average on long 2s was 40.1% and he shot 43.5%. Flagg shot 33.1% Bailey 39.1%. 3 of Brown’s 21.7 shots per game came from long 2s so that’s the spot he took the least amount of his FGAs from. For comparison Jamal Murray shot 42.3% on long 2s while attempting a decent amount of them as well (12.4% of his FGA or about 2 a game).
so what you’re saying is he’s fat
Most of these aren’t even long mid-range. I consider long mid-range, a step inside the 3 point line. Most of them were on the FT-line extended.
Reddit-ass post
Very high volume and below average efficiency shouldn’t be surprising when your co-star is out the whole season.
Yet he still destroyed analytics darling Derrick White’s HORRIFIC shooting efficiency who just SUCKS shooting from EVERYWHERE.
So bored with hearing about Jaylen Brown.
Who is paying you to post this? Nonstop Brown haters…
He was a midrange assassin with the percentages to back it up for the first like 2 months of the season, then it trailed off
This made me appreciate more what kind of player SGA is. Hate to admit it, but that dude can really shoot long range 2s.
the celtics philly games this season are going to be must see tv. jb is gonna have a monster chip on his shoulder
The brick tapes 😭
Go off Brad
Of the players who took the most in the top 10, Brown is only above two rookies in efficiency Flagg and Bailey
Something tells me both Flagg and Bailey will be ahead of Brown next season, too
I’m not surprised. Celtics have no legit playmaker/point guard. Even when Tatum was available I still felt like the Celtics needed a better playmaker to create for Tatum and Brown.
The most valuable aspect to Brown for the Celtics is whenever they started choking a big lead and were missing 3s was he would be the only player to try and drive to the rim instead settling for 3s no matter how open he was. And he would often sorta fend off a comeback by doing so
I was about to get in here and defend JB and talk about them slandering him by calling him the 7th best player on the Celtics which is crazy af to me…. but then I remembered he’s a Celtic. Let the haters cook😂
I completely agree with your point but a 5 minute montage of him missing middies is diabolical
And he was 5th in MVP voting, so …
Crazy amount of cope in this thread
Since when are free throw line jumpers and shots in the pain considered long twos? Do y’all think anything that’s not within 5 feet a long two?
Hard to score when you’re the only good scorer on the floor
Its gonna get extremely funny if Celtics have a better season than the Sixers this season.
Lol. When one doesn’t take the shot, people ask why is he not shooting? When one misses, this guy’s taking bad shots. Lol
Why do I feel like the JB hate is getting near Fox-level hate.
Analytics you say?
The trade was one night of trashing Paul George and the Celtics, and every day since trashing Jaylen Brown.
At this point, Celtics better win 57 games with Brown out and Tatum in. That’s roughly the same team - heck might even be better pound for pound - with JT back and JB out
Next we’ll be told that Brown shouldn’t be a NBA player..
Analytic weirdos have made basketball discourse unbearable. Jalen Brunson was the worst knicks starter in the finals according to analytics.. at some point you weirdos gotta realize analytics is just that, analytics. Josh Hart was 100% spot on about you.
3 of the first 4 plays are him trying to foul bait unsuccessfully. Probably would shoot a better percentage if he didn’t do that. Donno if he keeps up that rate through the whole video, stopped watching at that point.
KG would be proud
Bro no chance I’m about to watch 4+ minutes of what I presume is JB missing jump shots lmao
Brad is that you?