I understand throwing the bag at Murray because he has a gigantic penis but the Braun contract is terrible for 125M/5 years

Watson has had one single month in his career where he looked like a $25M type guy.

He can seek it all he wants, but the market for him is gone.

Nugs seemed to have a policy of extending their draftees after the 3rd year even if they were risky or weren’t very good.

The one time they don’t, it bites them.

They can still pay Watson, Cam Johnson is most definitely gone

At the time, Braun was the clearly better player. Frankly, It still may be the right choice, only time will tell.

Braun is good if you watch the Nuggets. Awesome slasher and great defender, which helps them tremendously from a value standpoint. More often than not he guards the other team’s best player. It just tired him out and so his shot went cold in the postseason. He’ll bounce back.

You mean the leader of the team? /s

Braun had a down year, but he’s been an above average defender, 3pt shooter, slasher and fast break finisher.

they have nothing better to do with the money unless they like kuminga

Whatever the Clippers do it’ll be the wrong decision

It’s already over unless they trade Jamal and retool completely. Just too athletically/ defensively handicapped to keep up with the top of the west

Why would it make any sense? They didn’t just lose, they clearly had no chance against ANY of the top teams in the west. Randle being gone might help the Nuggets but Jokic is just not good enough to overcome 3 teams that basically all focus on attacking the center. 

Than don’t match. And let him walk. See how that works for the Nuggets

Overpaying him and it not working out will be the final nail in their coffin (if it’s not already nailed) 

But they just can’t let him leave for nothing, they can’t lose another asset for nothing. And the optics of it would be seriously bad 

I love how even in a nuggets thread jaylen brown is still catching shit hell yeah 

Look I like analytics but you can’t just throw out “calculated salary values” like it’s a widely accepted metric without support and be taken seriously

God save us from Nuggets math. You can do all the fan calculations in the world and it still won’t mean anything when you get bounced by the wolves or spurs or thunder. 

Is there a website you’re using that shows the data

What’s Jamal’s value?

Cant win with even values, you need underpaid ones.

I agree on Cam but you need to be real with yourself and stop relying on these metrics that won’t matter when your GM calls teams to offload Braun’s contract. He is a negative asset on his contract.

is there a way to see these number differences for every player in the league? Like a website or something?

I’d like to see the best/worst value contracts for all 30 teams

Would love to see this for Jamal 

Can you help me find the source for these numbers?

Where do you find these?

Do you mind sending me a link? I’m curious where you found these values. 

Well we don’t want to trade guys just to do it. We must not have found any deals we like yet.

New nba fan apparently

Move them for what? Yeah that’s what I thought 🤡

i think we genuinely make the conference finals minimum with the same roster and a different coach, since we’re keeping adelman i do want to see more changes though

It’s just r/nba

You get used to this same crap being spewed daily. Silver lining is they are wrong way more than right

Plenty of Denver fans are still haters of Braun(or at least his contract) from what I can tell. I hope Nuggets keep both Braun and Watson personally, like seeing guys stay where they’re drafted

TBD if the reports that Braun was injured are true and whether he can bounce back this season. Maybe Peyton can maintain his play and approach all star level. But he’s coming off a hamstring injury that people aren’t really talking about.

Braun had three great seasons, Peyton had a great month, and people say we paid the wrong guy. Time will tell who the “right guy” is, but acting like we already fucked up by paying Braun is total recency bias.

Denver fans have complained about him more than anyone else

Clippers can potentially make an offer if they renounce mathurin. But it’s only around 25. Nets have over 30 still

We do. And he fits well but we also have pretty strategically structured all of our contracts so that we have no big money guaranteed beyond the ²⁷⁄₂₈ season. Idk what we’re planning to do with that money but Marks has done this before in 2019 when we got KD/Kyrie so he may be positioning us to be able to strike again.

Players don’t hit FA like that anymore though so personally, I’d offer Peyton everything we can but Marks has shown he likes to go big fish hunting.

By doing what? Trying to compete every year and bring in players who can contribute?

Winning is hard and a lot of it comes down to luck

Bad injury luck

I mean no team in this cap era has even made it back to the finals, even if the FO does everything right there’s no saying they get another one

Same with Giannis.

Jokic has been more competitive in that time, but it’s been more injuries than anything.

This team would win a championship if healthy. All of these guys are in their prime. You guys keep saying this same comment like the pieces are not there.

No one threw away Jokic’s championship window, this team is actively trying to capitalize on it now. So tired of this dooming ass take.

You can make that claim for almost every team with a superstar since 2019.

He won multiple MVPs, a title, and was a Finals MVP. That’s hardly wasted. There are lots of great players in history that never get a ring.

No we didn’t. We got one championship in the most competitive era in the NBA. I never thought I’d see this franchise have even 1.

They probably win in 2025 if Gordon doesn’t have an injured hamstring

8 years with 8 different champs, no repeats since the broken Warriors team. Is every other team wasting their respective star’s prime or just the Nuggets?

He only has one more year on his contract and he can join whoever he wants

We didn’t throw away his prime

And getting one title in today’s nba is a huge success. Especially for small markets that don’t have the advantages of large markets. Also the nuggets never tanked and never got a pick higher than 9

Their 2 best contending years got fucked by injuries to Jamal and MPJ. Not even MJ would sniff a title with his 2nd and 3rd options injured all year

It’s not even a bad team he has tho, how isn’t he carrying them like other superstars that he’s compared to have done?

They didn’t offer Murray.

Doesn’t really make sense for Denver. Their biggest problem on offence is a lack of ball handling.

Not really. The team got nuked by injuries last year. If they can stay somewhat healthy they’re contenders. Definitely not gonna field a better roster by avoiding it in their scenario.

No. But he plans to. The Nuggets currently still have him on contract but only $2M is guaranteed. He’s working with the team to find the best path forward.

we lose our MLE

Question - does this penalty occur if a team is over the 2nd apron when the season ends or do you lose the MLE the moment you hit the second apron? I guess what I’m wondering is.. if the Nuggets go into the second apron but finds a way to trade or shed salary out of it before the season ends, do they still take this penalty?

Restricted free agency doesn’t work that way. If no team makes him an offer, he can work out a deal with us, or take the qualifying offer which is 6.5 million and then become an unrestricted free agent next year.