My doctor says he doesn’t want to see me ever again after the incident.

They’ll have less turnovers

Heyyy Pritchard is at least the 5th or 6th best player on a contender unlike some people

Also, if your PP is “hitting half court buzzer beaters” (if you know what I mean) for more than 4 hours, call your doctor and seek help.

We’ll recreate him in the aggregate. Cries in Copium. Wtf Brad. I thought you were a genius.

Hornets were smart to trade lamelo and the Celtics were smart to trade jb. I hope you remember this comment next year beetle919.

The nerds have lost the plot. Back inside the lockers.

Time to trade him for Anthony Davis and a couple 1sts tomorrow. 

It’s almost as if they had built a well-rounded team that wasn’t over reliant on any single player.

Also when it comes to resting players - you often dont tend to do it in important games but instead when you are playing tanking teams. That will inflate win %

not .825 though, that’s insanely high

The Patriots went 11-5 in 2008 without Tom Brady. Clearly he was a bum and system QB.

Mazzulla a corny ass fraud

Yeah pritchard >>>> JB. Its anti-white bias in Boston :p

this but completely unironically

Just for information purposes, the opponents in those 10 games were: Wizards, Raptors, Pacers, Kings, Rockets, Suns, Bucks, Hawks, Hornets, Knicks.

Maybe he does, or maybe someone else does when more shot attempts show up.

Thunder fans will run you out of town when you give them the 72 game sample size of them being a .820 win team without Williams playing for them over the past two years

You expect Payton Pritchard to play like an MVP caliber player for 82 Games? Your sample size is 10 games holyyyy airball

Maybe. It’s not just the 10 games it’s also all the minutes he played without Jaylen.

Also wanna point out here that this is pretty similar to Jalen Brunson’s stats in Dallas without Luka. People were just as incredulous about his potential as a #1 option, and there were loads of people saying NY made a huge mistake when they signed him.

IMO if a guy is playing that well with the shots you give them, then you give them more shots. There’s no way to know until you find out.

He also averaged like 27 and 7 in all of the minutes without brown per 75 possesions. Thats like a 900 minute sample

Jaylen Brown never played like an mvp. Hope that helps!

Nobody expects that. It’s just a ridiculous claim to say that JB is an MVP caliber player. 

The Pritchard point isn’t good. The other point is.

No, the point isn’t that Pritchard will be an MVP level player. It’s that Jaylen was never close to that valuable and just took the shots that other guys could handle just as well while also being the worst defensive player on the team. We have a 57 game sample of the Celtics being much better without Jaylen plus all the minutes that he was on the bench.

I like pp (tee hee) but some Celtics fans here are in HARD cope mode. Not even mad I’d go insane too

You are jumping the gun. Tonight we are trading Tatum for Draymond Green

Am I smoking crack or is 65-29 a 69% winrate. Thats a lot lower than 77.38%.

Also means it’s the equivalent of a 57ish win team rather than 63.

That also means they’re playing slightly worse without Tatum than with him rather than slightly better which is what your stat says.

Tatum is actually the 6th best player on the Celtics. Fuck it, trade him too, build around Payton Pritchard and Derrick White

just a correction, 65-29 is equivalent to a 57 win team, not a 63 win team

No no, don’t bring in logic here. JB is clearly less valuable than Pritchard or White /s

They’re doing everything to justify trading JB. No matter how you spin in, you can always find a way to use stats to make a player look bad. The reality is that Boston fucked up by including JB in trade packages and when word got out, the relationships was soured.

Instead of having an awkward locker room, Boston tried to ship JB to a different team asap and got a horrible deal

Almost like it’s just a good team with a deep bench

Would be interested to see the breakdown of W/L of: Brown but no Tatum, Tatum but no Brown, both playing, neither playing

I ain’t got that kinda time though

45 to 50. More leaning towards 45.

You just don’t understand why missing your 3s is actually a good thing

Analytically 5 Derrick Whites would beat 5 MJs according to Brad Stevens.

are we pretending that’s the same as 47-10?

that’s also mostly this year without their championship roster with jrue and healthy KP. As opposed to most of the games brown missed being with a better roster

And they also rest their stars for games they think are gonna be easy or if they’re inconsequential. How do people watch basketball regularly and not get that a team as good as the Celtics have been for years might have 10-15 games per year where they know the stars can rest?

Do you understand that’s a gap of 4 more wins vs 21 more losses?

No no it’s actually Hugo and Baylor. They’re already better than Luka I hear

Not if Tatum goes for 80 every game 

!remindme may 24th, 2027

You know what’s funny? When white goes on his customary shooting slump they’re going to trade his ass hahaha welcome to Sacramento …behind a rookie hahahaha

Never in my wildest dreams that I think the Celtics would implode like this and it’s beautiful.. they used computers to stimulate simulate basketball and think they could shoot 5000 3’s per season

When that inevitably did not work they also use the same computers to tell them that their best player wasn’t good and trade him for a worse player.. like what?

Absolutely hilarious

Why don’t they just get somebody on their coaching staff who knows how to play ball without looking at a spreadsheet

For 10 games, brother. Linsanity last longer than that.

Easier tearing up opposing team benches than starters

That’s what I’m saying, how many of those games were when Jrue and Kristaps were playing?

It’s impressive, sure, but let’s remember that 10 games is a very small sample size.

I guess we’ll see if he can actually sustain that level of production, now that he has a full season.

Good player plays tough ga mes, sits easy games. Good player has bad stats! Trade good player for the corpse of Paul George. 

not to mention some of this was prob planned rest against bad teams

the east also got a lot better compared to last year, so even if the team is better i wouldn’t be shocked if we won less games

That unfortunately is also my prediction

Yeah but Baylor Schireman

They won the games with neither brown or tatum this year with a significantly worse supporting cast.

Brown was also more likely to be rested vs bad teams.

The games without Brown this season, the Celtics played seven teams over .500, with six of ‘em playoff teams (going 6-1), and only four bad teams (3-1)

First baseball was killed by the nerds, now hoops.

I like analytics and think they’re useful but I also think over reliance on analytics is a bad thing.

You’re not getting a cheese sandwich supermax with that attitude

Points per game, rebounds, assists are also analytics by that definition. Except when people say analytics in the context of sports they mean numbers derived from analysis of simple counting stats, not the counting stats themselves.

You hate to be that guy but you are that guy. That dude who harps on the technical meaning of something instead of the meaning that everyone, including you understand.

Bro is scared to be labeled as a stat nerd

He was seen as barely above a negative contract though since he was traded for one and a couple picks. 

I mean unless you think the Celtics didn’t shop him around the league the other 29 front offices clearly view him as a negative contract if that’s what they got for him. One of the weirdest trades to me just because I find that so hard to believe but it wasn’t a Nico situation the whole league knew brown was available and this is apparently the best they got

Was on tap for $67M in ‘28-‘29. Ouch.

Uhhh… sure… maybe not a negative contract now, but will be when he gets his 70M a year extension

If that’s not how the league viewed him, he wouldn’t have gone for PG and 2 firsts.

You mean that’s not how the fans view him.

It was for a podcast and picks…they didn’t want the chips and soda.

I mean, there’s a step missing there at the end. If the team should suck and doesn’t, then maybe the supporting cast is just that good. Not in the sense that they can fill Brown’s role as a volume scorer, but in the sense that most volume scorers in the league could win with Boston’s supporting cast. Pritchard and White handle most of the ballhandling duties and are very turnover averse, and we had the least turnovers in the league. We got a lot of offensive rebounds with wings crashing the glass, and were near the top of the league. We’re a generally good 3 point shooting team. The defensive supporting cast is extremely good. On the other hand, Brown is generally very inefficient compared to players anywhere near his volume, and is very turnover prone. This year, 17 players averaged 25 or more points per game. All the advanced stats are saying is that any of those guys probably would have won more than 56 games with the Boston supporting cast. And looking at that list of players, I agree, and I think that some players further down the list could have won around 56 games in his place. So having Brown as your number 1 starts your roster off in the negative, even if he’s the best suited on your team to fill the role.

I wholeheartedly agree, but for a different reason.

-Rob Pelinka

The two way star who puts up 30 a night or white Jordan Poole

They were better without him each of the last 4 years, both in terms of point differential when he was on the bench in the games he played and record in the games he missed altogether. That’s not nothing. It’s a pretty large sample. People have just failed to recognize how bad he’s gotten defensively. His slow help and missed rotation really impact the team negatively.

As someone who is using AI for the majority of my working hours, I can pretty confidently say this is not AI

The “its not x. Its y” convention is very common, which is why AI uses it. The article reads well. 

It’s Haberstroh. He’s written in this plain way for years. Ten years ago, as a high schooler I’d read his blogs and learn about writing from him. It’s not AI

The article reads well…

Except he’s a FMVP and has a ring.

I honestly think this is probably close to the truth

What an insulting comparison for JB, he’s showed up in a lot of moments in the playoffs. Derozan becomes a genuine bum in the playoffs 

agreed. he’s not terrible, but he’s not half as good as people think, and his contract is an albatross. i legitimately think the celtics may well be better than the sixers next year, and i think pritchard, as much as people are joking about it, is legitimately going to show out in a larger role

Probably better in playoff, but yeah they are pretty similar.

How can you say something so controversial and yet so brave.

And to be fair imagine paying a DeRozan type player almost 60 mil. Hell even DeRozan himself isnt getting paid half of that and he’s still facing the threat of being waived.