ExtraLeading3376

442 | 5 hours ago

least shocking thing so far

GotMoFans | Grizzlies

40 | 4 hours ago

KCP opting in is less shocking.

Paffcio69

10 | 4 hours ago

What about Lavine?

GotMoFans | Grizzlies

5 | 3 hours ago

Lavine and VanVleet probably can get contracts elsewhere.

KCP?

BlademasterFlash | Raptors

3 | 3 hours ago

Contracts sure, but for a lot less than their options

LocalTopiarist

2 | 3 hours ago

Only cause FVV was injured, hes worth more than that over a 4 year contract if he was healthy last year and the rockets played in the playoffs

OrganizationWeary317 | Spurs

2 | 4 hours ago

Dlo

pototoykomaliit | MIN

3 | 4 hours ago

You already know.

Zammy512 | Lakers

1 | 42 minutes ago

Lavine opting in tops this lol

Mario_Viana | Neemias Queta

272 | 5 hours ago

Obviously, rockets need him bad and his value has never been lower after a year of not playing

ghost-nug | Bulls

114 | 5 hours ago

I saw on a podcast clip the other day that he said his knee “exploded”

cl353 | Heat

60 | 5 hours ago

Reported as torn acl but was both acl and meniscus. Idk y he’d say that b4 potential FA lol

BleedGreen4Boston | Celtics

17 | 4 hours ago

Meniscus is almost always torn with the ACL tho, so nothing really special there. But yeah idk why they’d wanna draw attention to it. Maybe he’s setting himself up for a comeback player of the year narrative and the next payday lol

aloysiusthird

8 | 4 hours ago

This. People are all concerned but have never heard of O’Donoghue’s Unhappy Triad and don’t realize that hearing “ACL tear” often means more than that.

Lets_Go_Blue__Jays

3 | 3 hours ago

Can concur. I tore my ACL, meniscus and PCL last summer. Didn’t even end up needing ACL surgery and am back to playing sports. Did get Meniscus surgery however.

Mind you, I am not a professional athlete.

NeedleworkerSad9532 | Rockets

1 | an hour ago

Yes you are don’t tear yourself down

Lets_Go_Blue__Jays

1 | an hour ago

Appreciate that, it was effort to build back up. As a 30+ year old with a family, I am quite proud that i was able make it through a full season of rugby before the tear. Never thought I could rehab myself to be back at it but here I am.

halfdecenttakes | Lakers

1 | an hour ago

One time I tore everything BUT my ACL.

My Dr was very impressed.

Dodged surgery because it was MCL PCL and Meniscus, shit sucked tho.

CanadaDryOfficial | Rockets

15 | 4 hours ago

When you have a player option you don’t really need to worry. Lol

alextheruby | DAL

7 | 4 hours ago

Because he has a player option lol.

Tesgoul | Spurs

0 | 4 hours ago

Idk how medical privacy works in the NBA, but I’m assuming you can’t hide something like a torn meniscus, whether or not you talk about it in a podcast

TofuTofu | Knicks

19 | 5 hours ago

bro if you think his value has never been lower you don’t know the story of FVV

leftsidenotright | Knicks

8 | 3 hours ago

I just want to preface that I am sure he is a nice guy good teammate yadda yadda but holy shit any time someone talks about FVV in here I feel like I gotta go back to the mental hospital lol.

I swear to god I’d be lucky to find 60 non-2019 playoff games of FVV’s where he was an objective plus on the court. Dude has 2018-2021 Zuckerberg levels of PR fuckery cause if I didn’t actually watch the games you’d think he was fucking Prime Jason Kidd with hair the way he gets talked about

seagod900 | GSW

4 | 2 hours ago

he was also pretty bad the first half of 2019 LOL

blackspidey2099 | Raptors

2 | 34 minutes ago

He literally has a whole All Star season lmao, I think you’re the one who doesn’t actually watch the games

leftsidenotright | Knicks

1 | 12 minutes ago

Aite so that’s give or take 30-40 games half guaranteed, let’s find 20-30 more!

Firm_Mode_5868

2 | 4 hours ago

His value isnt ever gonna get any better. He’s toast.

Still-Ear-5959

81 | 5 hours ago

Crazy how Finals FVV 25 was cheap, now he’s not worth 25

oochiewallyWallyserb | Knicks

57 | 5 hours ago

Crazy how when knicks signed Brunson to 25 per they called him Walmart FVV.

Gavina4444 | ORL

33 | 5 hours ago

That was a dumb take at the time

CanadaDryOfficial | Rockets

8 | 4 hours ago

Right? I don’t remember anyone actually saying the Knicks made a bad move. Everyone was calling Dallas dumb as fuck since he had just had that amazing run for them when Luka was hurt the season prior.

oochiewallyWallyserb | Knicks

16 | 3 hours ago

Wait you’re kidding right?

We were absolutely mocked and ridiculed by reddit when he was signed

https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/s/NG4h1feg4S

Some standouts:

And people think Ayton getting a max is outrageous at these rates?

Inflation is real when Walmart FVV is getting a bigger bag than FVV.

Totally_PJ_Soles | Knicks

8 | 3 hours ago

I love reading this shit now.

oochiewallyWallyserb | Knicks

3 | 3 hours ago

Shit warms me up at night. Too bad alot of those cowards deleted their accounts.

CanadaDryOfficial | Rockets

0 | 44 minutes ago

lol. I must have missed it. I always felt like it was a great move, but then again I had always been a believer in Brunson even when on paper it didn’t make sense.

ModernPoultry | Gran Destino

2 | an hour ago

Tbf at the time FVV was an All Star and someone that received a Finals MVP vote

Brunson was relatively unproven

CanadaDryOfficial | Rockets

2 | 4 hours ago

Potentially, if he looks bad coming back from the injury, but his contract was absolutely worth it when he was playing. He’s had the league’s best assist to turnover ratio for multiple years in a row(obviously not countering when he wasn’t playing), and with how bad our offense was this season his impact is clear.

macarolls

65 | 5 hours ago

He made the decision to opt in to that contract last year… lol

leonardry | Thunder

18 | 5 hours ago

Shocking

FERFreak731 | Jazz

11 | 5 hours ago

Makes sense. 25 million, and keeping his non trade clause.

dafdiego777 | Rockets

23 | 5 hours ago

He loses it now I believe

aBakeinthelife | Pistons

11 | 5 hours ago

But hey, getting to keep $25m doesn’t sound so bad.

Gamesgtd | Magic

2 | 5 hours ago

Where do I sign up?

aboooz | Rockets

5 | 5 hours ago

No more no trade clause, but doubtful we trade him unless he’s fully cooked.

halomate1 | Rockets

2 | 3 hours ago

He gone

Wedbo | Rockets

1 | an hour ago

Hard to believe we could trade him without attaching picks. Disappointing as he wasn’t great even before the injury save for 3 playoff heaters.

As long as he can dribble the ball down the mf court we might be alright.

lot183 | Rockets

3 | 5 hours ago

Any player that signs a 1+1 with a player option gets a de facto NTC. The Rockets never formally in handed him a NTC, it was just a rule quirk, and it’s now gone.

AwildYaners | Japan

1 | 4 hours ago

Yep.

It’s like Hayes had one when he signed last year (his came from signing 3 consecutive 1 year deals I believe), he ended up waiving it though but he’s got his Slovenian passport now, so that’s basically his NTC for the future lol.

urfaselol | NBA

9 | 5 hours ago

Get that bread king

Jaychance3

4 | 5 hours ago

After he said his leg exploded after the injury and it was worse than it was reported, I would as well.

khazraxd | Hornets

3 | 5 hours ago

NOOOOO WAAAAAY

Forsaken-Income-3632

2 | 5 hours ago

Suprise surprise

Eagerbeaver98 | Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

I mean its cheap

durhWhen | Toronto Huskies

2 | 5 hours ago

Water is wet as well.

DeaseanPrince | Bulls

1 | 5 hours ago

Everyone saying not surprising but it kind of is. I figured Rockets would want him to opt out and extend him so they have more room to resign Eason and whatever other free agents they go after. A crazy offer Eason offer would push them into the 2nd apron.

Kimi7 | Lakers

3 | 5 hours ago

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. This might have free agency implications if the Rockets are not preparing for a trade in the background.

ElderGoose4 | Rockets

1 | an hour ago

Cause our GM thinks running it back with Smart will fix the team 😂

Smitty_Agent89 | Hornets

1 | 5 hours ago

Rockets probably did want him to opt out, he likely just didn’t want that coming off a bad injury.

So in reality it really isn’t that surprising. In fact it was the most likely outcome

TofuTofu | Knicks

2 | 5 hours ago

If they made the math work he would have done it. It’s not like they opt out and then the team can go HAHA GOTCHA and not do it. The team didn’t think he was worth doing a long term deal, that’s all it means.

Smitty_Agent89 | Hornets

1 | 32 minutes ago

Well my whole thing is I can’t imagine he’d give up his current salary. And I just don’t think a long term deal was ever realistically on the table for him coming off an injury. I thought this person meant FVV would opt out and sign a new 1 maybe 2 year extension at a lower AAV, not necessarily a long term one.

Total_Boss_3157

1 | 5 hours ago

They probably know his knee is busted so they’re not interested to extend him

Thehelloman0 | Spurs

1 | 4 hours ago

Kind of scary to give a guy multiple years when he hasn’t played after a big injury

ynomeye | Warriors

2 | 5 hours ago

You should never sign a player who is under Klutch. You’re going to get scammed

sidearmpitcher | Thunder

1 | 5 hours ago

Get that bag!

Lianafelice21

1 | 5 hours ago

Really? no way lmao

dafdiego777 | Rockets

1 | 5 hours ago

As expected

NeatRough656 | Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

Brother not now

jayr114

1 | 5 hours ago

Shocker

CmonTouchIt | Lakers

1 | 5 hours ago

With how he described his own injuries… Apparently his knee “exploded”… He might be cooked

RobBuckets | New Zealand

1 | 5 hours ago

In other news, the sky is blue

neal1701

1 | 5 hours ago

Rockets are kinda trapped right now

Eagerbeaver98 | Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

25 feels cheap now

Confident_Pear_8303

1 | 3 hours ago

Yeah no…Dude is a 15 mil player at best.

sh0tgunben | Hornets

1 | 5 hours ago

Easy choice for Vanvleet, being out all season w/ injury

Imaginary-Ebb-1724

1 | 5 hours ago

Marcus smart gone be a backup?

TheMoorNextDoor | Nets

1 | 5 hours ago

Rockets got their guy

heat_fan_ | Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

This was expected shocker

theyoloGod | Tampa Bay Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

Apparently their whole season depends on this man

anonymoususer6407 | Rockets

1 | 5 hours ago

Boring, trade Kawhi already

Nodqfan | Warriors

1 | 5 hours ago

They probably want to see how the team plays with FVV at the point before extending him.

AWall925 | Rockets

1 | 5 hours ago

Ok, Rockets super strategy let’s see if this works

Spicy__Urine | Raptors

1 | 4 hours ago

Probably wont ever be as good as he was pre knee injury. :(

Jonjon428 | Heat

1 | 4 hours ago

Duh

HornetsAreBad | Hornets

1 | 4 hours ago

lol.

lmao, even.

porterbrown | Knicks

1 | 4 hours ago

He has made 190 million in his career earngins, so far, and can hang on the bench next year and travel the league and dap up people and eat fucking tacos EVERY NIGHT and do rehab and warmups in sweats and bench coffee every game with bluetooth earbud and an edible.

that’s what I ’d do

R0botDreamz

1 | 4 hours ago

Easiest $25M he will ever make.

Mr_E_Nigma_Solver | Tampa Bay Raptors

1 | 4 hours ago

Keep getting that bag Fred.

Confident_Pear_8303

1 | 3 hours ago

At least he is only about 10 mil overpaid this year…

gwapwes | Clippers

0 | 5 hours ago

nba players got fuck you money lol dont even remember the last time this dude played

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QualityImpossible241

2 | 5 hours ago

Good idea. Then when they are recruiting other players, those players will know what kind of shit culture they’re being brought into. That’s a sure way to attract talent.

/s for you u/unfair-map-517

Unfair-Map-517

1 | 3 hours ago

Don’t care! And it’s not the end of story! Bum

Harrypoooooter41

-4 | 5 hours ago

Not even worth 5. lol.

SpiritFantastic4835 | Lakers

-3 | 5 hours ago

Scammed the rockets

ClaymoresRevenge | Bulls

5 | 5 hours ago

To be fair when healthy it was great. The injury is what makes this bad. They sorely needed a point guard. But they couldn’t trade him without him agreeing

jer113 | Rockets

5 | 5 hours ago

If you watched us play last season you know 100% he didn’t scam us. Desperately needed him.

Electronic-Elk8917 | Raptors

1 | 5 hours ago

They overpayed him because they had to, and he played exactly like he always has for them. He didn’t scam anybody. He’s on a reasonable contract now, not his fault his knee exploded.

[Charania] Houston Rockets guard Fred VanVleet is opting into his $25 million player option for the 2026-27 season, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul tells ESPN.