Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

You pay him, and you’ll get clowned on for signing him after that horrific playoff run he had.

You don’t pay him, and you let an All-NBA player walk for nothing while other teams in the east are rearming.

Pistons management rightfully knows that his ALL-NBA selection is fraudulent, he is not a top 15 player in the league.

He isn’t getting anywhere near a supermax. He’s looking at like a Sengun/Jarrett Allen/Gobert contract.

Probably $35-40M a year

So that would be 5yr-$200M

Unlike AR he is a restricted free agent, so he likely won’t get the max because no team wants to hold up their cap space just for the Pistons to match whatever they offer.

He’s worth at most \(200M/5 years. \)287M is insane though

I don’t think he’s worth it but I also can’t comprehend how teams let him get away with it for a full season. The effort that was displayed against the Pistons was equivalent to a preseason game. I couldn’t believe teams just let him dunk all season until the playoffs.

Why are people talking like there’s any chance he gets 287? While technically eligible, that’s never been on the table here

Thanks magic

If I was the pistons I will make a sign and trade.

This is engagement bait. Any Pistons fan on reddit knows the max a different team can offer is around ⁴⁄₁₇₇.

Pistons already made it clear the max isn’t happening.

Bad post.

Yes, he is worth $287 million. I advise that the Pistons front office sign him immediately

if you pay him and hes bad you get into a really rough cap scenario that likely leads to losing asuar or maybe even cade but if he walks and he goes to the lakers and they win a title because of it your gm is likely fired

it’ll be a sign and trade with milwaukee for herro and turner.

milwaukee has the cap space/time to overpay him right now, and he’s super young.

detroit gets another ball handler/shooter in herro and a shooting big man.

He’ll never be prime Dwight cause he isnt that level of a defender man

Thanks for posting a totally new topic. And one that is totally not written by AI.

Pistons can let the market decide. Duren brought this upon himself with his own play.

Duren, Holland, three FRPs for Jaylen Brown.

I wouldn’t pay him the max after seeing the playoffs 

Deleting the app? What?

As a laker fan I hope the max we offer is a 4 year 35 mill a year deal. 4 for 140 seems reasonable and also very sketchy

It feels like he’s gotten less mobile over the years. Is it possible the dude packed on too much mass?

Can we just trade him, please? I prefer Ausar as our non-shooter because of his insane athleticism and defense. I don’t want to be stuck with an undersized non-shooting big, period. Paying him big money probably just kills our chance at a real title push.

As a Knick fan, I really hope he’s gets re-signed, because he ain’t it. That’s fool’s gold.

The way people talk about Jalen Duren on this sub you would think he isn’t good at anything and completely useless

287M?! LMAAAAAOOOOOOO

We were leaving your non shooters and absolutely swarming him with either Mobley/Allen and then help any time the ball entered. if you have shooters then your opponents can’t do that. Pistons have basically no choice but to pay him and hope that Thompson can develop a 3 that causes the defense to at least stay on him, similar to us hoping Mobley would. Mobley isn’t a great 3 point shooter but he knocks them down if you leave him open so it works.

I don’t see how he will be much better from who he is now. And who he is now has major flaws when it comes to tightly matched playoff basketball.

Unless he’s prepared to sign the QO, they don’t actually have to decide on a deal anywhere close to that number.

Even a max offer sheet from another team is way below that contract value. They can just match for far less.

People are also quickly forgetting he had constant issues with ankle injuries his first few seasons. There are a lot of red flags that make me very weary locking him in for a big contract.

I don’t know what the right number is, however you don’t let go of or play around w a 22 yr old, all-star & all nba team player.

He’s not a finished product. They will close thier window before it’s fully opened.

Pistons being smart. Maxing Duren completely stuffs their rebuild. Playoffs count for way more that regular season

Lmfao, no one in hell giving Duren 200+ mil. Shit would be worse than the contract the Suns gave Ayton.

Forget the Cavs series. The Orlando series was just as concerning

Time to pay the piper.

He is not getting anywhere near that, no one has money now except the Lakers and they have LeBron and Rui to possibly re-sign. Whatever is offered the Pistons will match. Probably closer to 4 years $190 million is what he will get.

I’d love to be duren’s agent right now

He’s not worth 300 mill

They’ve already decided–they just don’t know how to break it to him gently.

Crazy to me he’s entering year 5 and younger than some of the lottery draft picks on Tuesday

I feel like a 1000% healthy Isaiah Stewart was just as good of a player as peak Duren, plus he was more versatile and a much much better defender and outside shooter.

The problem for Stewart imo is he shorter than Duren (6’8”), less athletic, but most importantly much less durable. Stewart played less than 59 games in 3 of the last 4 regular seasons and has also been hurt or injured during the past two playoffs causing him to miss some or most of all of the postseason games too.

They are going to match what other teams offer, which won’t and probably can’t be more than $200m

Let other teams decide his value then match it if it’s reasonable

lol simple get rid of him… he’s not worth it after that playoff run. Bro scored 9 points in some games. We’re talking -11 points in the playoffs compared to the regular season. He benefited off touches and that’s it. Man is a bum without an elite PG

Pistons dont have to do anything. Let him gather a deal in RFA, and match whatever offer there is.

Who cares about regular season if he can’t perform during playoffs.

And the Magic series

He is not

He’ll get 4 year 177M at best.

Hopefully sign and trade! Duren was becoming my favorite player but the playoffs really really soured me on him.

They don’t have to decide that. He’s not

Duren would be much better if the team had a secondary (and third) scoring option.

He’s like 22 and DET is very ahead of schedule. What the chances you even come anywhere close to finding a young player that dynamic with upside AND experience. Give him a chance to improve, there’s 30 teams. He’s gone up and up for 4 years, look at De’Aaron Fox struggle as a Max Vet. This league is really really hard and you need failure to be star. Victor just blew passes / free throws / conditioning in the Finals. Kobe was awful his first finals. This is literally part of the journey.

He is not dwight howard. lmao

Honestly, that kind of money should only be reserved for the very best of the best. It’s crazy that a guy who averaged 10 ppg during the most important part of the season is in the conversation to make max money.

He shouldn’t get anything near that, exposed as a fraud in the playoffs. Miles Turner money sounds about right.

He’s 22 years old. Do y’all really think he will continue to shit the bed in the playoffs for the next 10 years? He will bounce back.

The fact that some people want to let him walk is insane. How many All-NBA or even All -Star level centers are there? Now how many of them are available to be signed? But yes, giving 40ish million to an All NBA level player at the grandpa age of 22 is just too far.

You have to do it I think, he can definitley figure it out he’s super young but where are you gonna get a center like him

Detroit will prob end up paying him lol. I feel like they would rather overpay than having FOMO

Yes we know

The pistons are clearly not paying him that 287 mil

let’s see if he gets max offer sheet. highly questionable, but then match it if they really want him.

They should let the Lakers give him that contract.

From Australia…

That’s 415m AUD.

A truely unfathomable amount of money to pay someone to play basketball.

The already decided he’s not, he didn’t accept their offer, the probably just match whatever he’s offered or sign and trade him but that’s less likely.

Thinking 4 years / 160 with a player option. He still is worth a high annual average, just not a max.

You bank on him improving, on having something to prove when your flaws were exposed. He gets paid, and a chance to re-test the market a year earlier IF he proved himself.

Piston should just offer ⁵⁄₁₇₅ which would make Duren the 9th highest paid Big in the game.

Only these 8 would have a higher avg salary:

1. Embiid - 62M
2. AD - 58M
3. Jokic - 55M
4. KAT - 55M
5. Bam - 53M
6. Chet - 47M
7. Seng - 37M
8. Rudy - 36M

Duren’s 35M and Jarrett Allen 32M would round out the top 10.

Anything close to Sengun’s and Rudy’s contract would be a win and anything close to Chet’s would be a massive mistake.

He ain’t Dwight tho..

What does it matter? Truly. Boston gave Jaylen Brown that money and now he’s in the trade block. Either they pay it or someone else does

Pistons need to decide if any other team thinks Duren’s worth $287M. As an RFA, they can match any offer he gets

It’s been a huge quandary for awhile with players like Duren that make All-NBA. Yes, they make the All-NBA team, but could be a fluke year or a bunch of other players get injured, etc. When players are fringe All-NBA guys, it’s hard to just let them go, but also hard to just throw a ton of money at them and tie up so much cap space. Cap space is too valuable to be saddled by players that just aren’t worth it.

He’s a 22 year old big. His shot will keep getting better. He will be a bargain by last year.

We really are in an impossible spot. He was one of only 6 players to average 19+pts and 10+rebs during the season, but collapsed to ¹⁰⁄₈ in the playoffs when we needed him most. I think we should sell high if we can. Jaylen, Trey Murphy, a Herro/Turner, Okongwu/Daniels, Sharpe/Timelord, or maybe Franz or a Suggs/Carter Jr. combo would be amazing, but I’m starting think we’re stuck. I won’t be mad if we keep him, but I just think we might have hit our ceiling with him as one of our max guys.

No they don’t. He’s a RFA. You let the market decide his worth and match it. Idk why this is even a story.

Hell nah he ain’t.

Very few bigs are worth the max (or near it) imo. The ones that are have to have skill sets and impact that are irreplaceable. Is he really one of THOSE guys?

Trade him for deandre ayton, straight up.

No one is paying him the max. Pistons offering 5 years around $200M.

I wouldn’t want to pay him, mostly cause I don’t see him as a good fit for the way the NBA game is trending.

But feel like they have to. Regular season is obviously different than playoffs but think they have to look at how good he was all season and pray the playoffs were a fluky bad stretch. Too young and talented to let him walk for nothing.

If they can negotiate him even a bit off max money consider that a win. Or sign & trade?

This is not true at all. He’s a restricted free agent, other teams can only offer $177M and the Pistons can match.

287 million? Holy shit I didn’t realize he was eligible for that big of a bag.