thank you for your service and good luck in your future underwhelming

Normally I’d agree but he was genuinely awful. The difference between regular season and playoffs was unacceptable to be frank. His scoring went from 20 ppg to 10 ppg with a 15% lower TS. His rebounds were down and he was also turning the ball over at a crazy rate for someone with his play style. The eye test was somehow even worse than the stats, he looked lethargic, lazy, unmotivated and even scared at times. Hopefully he can bounce back from this but idk how anyone could blame Detroit for not breaking the bank after his playoff showing.

On the other hand, we’ve seen players like Roy Hibbert, who once exposed, was unplayable overnight.

It wasn’t the normal 22 year old playoff jitters tho. He got dominated by freaking wendell carter jr. He also played with such low energy that at times it looked like he gave up.

There’s obviously plenty of time to come back from this but currently you simply cannot justify giving him a max or near max after that performance.

Age is a proxy for experience. He’s entering his 5th year in the league.

I mean, it absolutely should impact the amount a team is willing to pay him if he shrinks come playoff time. He’s wanting money expected of a top 2 player on a contender

Dude went from a guy who became our best player the last month of the season when our actual best player went down to completely disappearing in the playoffs and not even being sixth man important in the rotation while consistently getting outplayed by all his matchups by alot. Even Duncan Robinson who was also disappointing went off for some big games. He let our 3rd string big come off the bench and produce more than him in half the minutes. Duren’s best game was a 15 and 10 game. Duren is 22 and he had a total meltdown once tax season was over.

Its the common issue with him throughout though. Hes not good defensively and struggles with maintaining intensity often becoming too passive. Hes lucky hes had Cade basically feeding him his buckets otherwise he might have been even less valued

I don’t see how he improves though. He is a center who can’t shoot and can’t play defense. His motor collapsed in the playoffs along with his confidence. And he wants to be paid. The pistons are in win now mode, I don’t want this team to end up like the old Timberwolves with Kat and Wiggins paying 2 players the majority of the cap to be subpar at their salary for the promise by their 3rd contract they could potentially improve.

He wasn’t impressive in last year’s playoffs either.

I think he’ll get a good deal tbh, maybe not a max

There are a lot of desperate teams out there,check my flair

Could see one of those fat contract offers that pretty much force Detroit to match

It’s nice to see everyone not automatically get the max.

Sounds familiar.

If u want the max. It shouldn’t matter what’s around u.

He was a big reason they got there so can’t forget that

He can’t play offense. He can’t shoot. He has no post game. He can’t get to the basket. He’s a regular season alley oop merchant that is trying to get a max riding Cade’s coat tails. 

He’s not a great defender either. He was terrible in the playoffs on top of the other stuff. 

Yeah, and there’s plenty of instances of quality big men who stunk it up early into their playoff career. I’m not saying you should give him $57 million AAV, but there’s no reason to think he’s just completely finished growing as a player.

also the lakers are pretty motivated to threaten to max him thanks to Detroit doing it with reaves

genuine question for the guys who understand contract rules.. could the lakers still trade Reaves for Duren in a sign-and-trade? or would that be off the table given the recency of the extension.

The ambiguity of “very nice” is doing a lot of work here.

It’s a lot more bleak future if you’re paying a guy who gets 10 ppg in the playoffs a max contract

Better spot than ruining their chances of ever winning with Cade tho. He was the second best guy on their team. He’s not a max player. They’re doing the right thing.

Detroit still does have a bright future. Possibly brighter if we get a good player in the sign and trade market that doesn’t have the same offensive limitations as Ausar Thompson (no shooting outside 5 feet). C’mon Troy Weaver! You can get Duren. Just give us Trey Murphy!

Ultimately Duren and Ausar getting 75 million a year together was the doom scenario for us as we have two members of the core that only score around the rim which means Cade has no spacing around him.

For many pistons fans the choice between Ausar and Duren has been weighing on us. Most would rather have Ausar and someone who can space the floor.

Max would probably be the initial ask for everyone and would be the most logical direction if you can field other offers. The one thing the team doesn’t want you to do is walk for free so players still have enough leverage to start that negotiation from there going down at the very least.

Shh don’t tell everyone

The man inside me

Tbf we make up 10% of all matter

He better let him out before he suffocates!

Well that.. and we actually have cap space compared to most other years.

Yet so many of them whine about 28 other team’s GMs apparently hating the Lakers so bad that they refuse to make fair trades with LA.

One lightly used Luka would probably be okay.

Rui would be great for Detroit

this soap opera is ²⁴⁄₇, brother.

I hate how this is so true lol. Like I’m not gunna lie, I love the drama

the nba SEASON is also a man’s soap opera

Ever year. It never disappoints, ever lol. 😀

If LeBron, brown and duren get traded this is easily the craziest offseason I can remember

Shaq is probably one of them

Like an unclean baby fresh out the womb

Yeah but he had a very reasonable contract and we literally gave him away for nothing because we just got the same exact 2nd round picks back that we had traded them

Why do people act like only the last few games people remember at the end of a season are the only things that matter. We know Stew is an impactful player

How excited would you be with a Herro + Myles Turner for Duran trade

I’d take Herro and Ware if possible

140 ppg, 150 oppg 😤

People think cause he’s a 7 footer he’s a rim protector, but he’s not.

I’ve been wanting him to improve his rim defense since we got him and instead he added a better handle, which is useless in this NBA.

Yall want him to get smoked in the playoffs by Wemby and Joker huh