Is the MPJ + Randle combo the most devious iso ball duo the league has ever seen?
The young talent on Brooklyn is never going to get to develop. I don’t see how Randle + MPJ is gonna fit but maybe the nets will prove me wrong.
They need to bring Cam Thomas back
That team would go 20-62 but theyd have three 20 ppg scorers
The knockoff version of KD, Kyrie, and the beard
Kevin DurCANT, Kyrie IRKING, and James BURDEN
I hear this in Shaq and Chuck’s voices lol
More like Skip to me
Have to blast LeBron tho or it’s not genuine Skip.
“I don’t care if LeBron James isn’t on the team. I have maintained for years that the Nets are a more formidable basketball team without him! LeBron has a far bigger ego and relies too heavily on dominating the ball.”
Kyrie Urkel
Stop it, I can’t
MPJ as the knockoff KD Dubious Handles as Evil Kyrie
Dubious Handles is literally the antithesis of Kyrie.
Hey now IT, Gay, and Cousins showed you can win a full 28 this way
We’re they called the Gay It cousins as a trio?
the gay thomas cousins
Put some fucking respect on Julius Randles name.
He brought Elfrid Payton, rookie Immanuel Quickley, rookie RJ Barrett, and Nerlens Noel to a 4th seed.
He’ll probably fuck around and bring the Nets to a top 6 seed next year
Idk if this trend still holds but 2027 is an odd-numbered year so Randle could be putting up all-star numbers on efficient shooting numbers.
Anybody remember the Arenas, Butler, and Jamison trio?
I remember the Andray Blatche, Javale McGee 1,2 punch
thing is in todays league that record is the worst because of the draft changes
3 20 PPG scorers and the team scores 60 points a night ✌️😭. Nobody else getting the ball unless they grab the rebound.
That kind of lineup would’ve gotten you a top 4 seed 10 years ago
Jeez. I remember the three days when Bucks fans (myself included, I’m not gonna hide) thought Cam Thomas might save our season and keep Giannis happy.
What a fucking strange and sad season we had.
That’s the Cam Thomas experience baby
Does anyone know if Alonzo Trier is still playing ball?
Hasn’t actually played since 2021 by the looks of it. Got signed by a G League team in 2024 but got waived before he played a game.
Dude must suck in the locker room if he can’t even stick on a G League roster.
Every time someone would get minutes over him when he was here, his Twitter fingers would act up and he’d start shit-talking his own teammates. RJ Barrett was his favorite target.
Only David Fizdale was stupid enough to keep him in a NBA locker room, much less play him significant minutes. The moment Mike Miller took over as interim, he slashed Trier’s minutes to the bone. That’s particularly damning, because Mike Miller was his G-League coach. And one of Leon Rose’s first moves was to dump him entirely.
The guy refused to pass, play defense (individually or as part of a team effort), rebound, run any offense that wasn’t an isolation or maybe a PNR if he was feeling generous, or do anything that contributes to winning basketball. No wonder he got dumped out of the league after that. It sucks that he seemingly never learned anything; he’s just a cautionary tale now.
I was listening to Simmons and Lowe chop it up on their latest pod and a Knicks fan sent in a question that basically amounted to saying ‘isn’t it awesome that you can forget people that have haunted you over the years (like Reggie and Haliburton) because it doesn’t matter now, you got the chip’.
I couldn’t help but think of bums like Eddy Curry or Andrea Bargnani or now that he got brought up, Alonso Trier. I can just lose my negative thoughts about guys like that who have been on the Knicks during my lifetime.
We’re free of them, homie. They’re ghosts sent away in an exorcism.
Not that you needed to hear that particularly. I’m just still basking in the win and love that those kind of players don’t need to bother me anymore.
Thry need Jordan poole at pg, cam thomas at sg, mpj at sf, randle at pf, there must be a centre that fits that squad
Deandre Ayton will manage to get the most meaningless 10ppg possible on that team
Yes yes hes our guy
Mitchell Robinson’s salivating. Just rebounds and kick outs all day.
Demarcus Cousins
I feel like this is a little disrespectful to prime Boogie. Was way above these guys
Can Hassan Whiteside still dribble a basketball?
and un-retire alonzo trier
MPJ isnt exactly a iso ball guy, hes just a play finisher. He’s putting it up when he catches it without wasting any time
I honestly liked that aspect of his game while he was still in Denver. You need to have a decisive shooter on a team with Jokic and Murray on it
He threw that shit up didn’t matter who was in front of him.
And still put up hyperefficient shooting numbers
Randle has also averaged 5 assists a game over the last 6 or so seasons. As a PF, that’s like 70-80th percentile.
He runs a ton of isolation, but he does pass out of them well for a big.
He’s also shown he can play well as a complementary player with Brunson and Ant. Randle’s bad moments get magnified, in part because sometimes they are especially dumb, but a lot of people here are talking poorly about him as if he’s the guy from ‘19-20 who played so poorly the Knicks drafted Obi Toppin thinking Randle was a goner, and not the guy who’s been a legit 3x All-Star / 2x All-NBA quality player who generally plays 69+ games a year.
He’s not amazing, but people really acting like a 21-6-5 guy with solid impact metrics is a scrub. Hes not even on a bad deal.
I like Randle. Nothing extraordinary but consistent
Plus he’s alot of fun to watch. How many legit power forwards are left in the NBA? He’s one of the few.
and he’s probably like 25ppg 13reb against the bad teams in the league. he spikes against bad defenses.
Now show the assists not to Dante.
Feel like he was the only one that ever got the ball with us.
One thing I always respected about Randle despite all his weaknesses is he always throws passes at 100mph
Honestly, I’m into this trade. Feel like it’ll be good for the young guys to have some more legit offensive threats.
I know most people didn’t watch the Nets, but Egor, and Traore actually have promise, and the Nets will also gonna get a solid guard tomorrow at #6. I could see the Nets being a fun league pass team.
I also hope this means Day’Ron Sharpe gets most of the center minutes - I’m interested to see if he keeps up his offensive rebounding rate as a starter vs. just being a bench 20-25mpg high energy back up.
I’m rooting for ya but I don’t trust Sean Marks his ass is drafting Ament.
I’m jumping off my roof if that happens
yall don’t have your pick nezt year anyway.
Just being “ok” will develop young players more than being a dumpster fire.
THey need someon to pass too and take pressure off them
Randle will thrive in a no pressure environment.
Yep i think this is the right road for the team. Being semi-competitive will help young guys development more.
Having 0 reason to tank, and with the young guys + Randle/MPJ, they might be a interesting team to follow next year.
Honestly that’s exactly like Klay. I don’t know what people are complaining about. That’s on the coach for not scheming properly.
Yeah this is actually a very solid forward duo. Randle is great at finding shooters.
I remember seeing people say Michael “the possession ends here” Porter Jr
Hes a chucker*
Shoots a lot =/= iso ball. MPJ moves a ton off ball to get to his shots
Srsly. I read this and was like, has OP ever seen MPJ play?
Isoball is dribbling the air out of it while 4 other guys just stand around. MPJ flies around. He shoots a lot, but I wouldn’t call what he does iso. If anything, he needs a guy like Randle dribbling while he’s running around screens.
I read this and was like, has OP ever seen MPJ play?
None of it makes sense - They’re actually really complimentary players in a way that nobody next to Julius really has been, other than that brief stretch after the Knicks traded for Anunoby and before Randle got hurt by Jaime Jacquez in 2024.
Just a big shooter who can get open and get a shot off quickly after Randle draws a double - I see it working really well offensively next season.
If the Nets can get a guy in the draft like Acuff or Brown to actually function well at the point next season, it’s not crazy that they could make the play-in.
Definitely agree they’re complementary
Genuine question: Does big shooter not describe his experience playing with KAT?
Second question: how would a combination of MPJ, Randle, and Acuff form any sort of competent defense?
Not trying to hate or challenge, just curious to hear people’s takes.
Randle got traded for KAT so he does not have any experience playing with KAT.
Ha, damn you’re right. No clue why I was misremembering..
This team sucked absolute dick on both ends of the floor and has done for years now, they don’t need to be good on defense to get better than they have been.
Your defense point is a good one.
mpj is pretty good when he doesn’t have back problems…though the lottery gods are already preparing to send that Brooklyn pick to the end of the lottery
We don’t own our pick next year if its at the back of the lottery that’s a good thing lol
Houston’s getting first overall bro we gave Celtics back to back top 3 picks and then fell 2 spots in back to back drafts a decade later. Cursed franchise
Right. I’d argue that Porter is an archetype every team in the league wants. Tall guy who shoots the ball reliably well. Those aren’t easy to find. Regardless of the other issues with his game, his ability to stretch the floor and hit shots has a lot of value. He is not just a volume merchant. Would be a great pickup for Detroit, Portland, Golden State.
Surely you guys wouldve found a way to get him. Mpj and porzingis at the 4 and 5…one bombing 3s and the other shooting over opposing centers in the post
when have injuries been a problem for MPJ recently? He got benched so the Nets could tank last year but was consistently healthy and then he played 77 and 81 games the prior two seasons
MPJ isn’t going to pound the air out of the ball, he is just going to shoot it the second he gets it.
If hot potato was a professional sport, MPJ would be the unanimous MVP!
Honestly not a terrible fit around Randle, who likes to spray it out to shooters when he barrels into the lane, but doesn’t like the look. But I’d assume their plan is to move MPJ since they successfully rehabilitated his value, and then try to do the same with Randle.
Just a different type of black hole 🕳
Only if he misses
Not many people watched the Nets last year, but MPJ was anything but that. He was fantastic and barely needed usage. And he was a great teammate for the rookies.
This. He was mostly off the ball and barely ran any ISO, their offense was decently fun to watch. Only problem is the defense was ass and I don’t think Randle makes that better
The more I think abt it the better suited MPJ is to catch Randle grenades I see the vision
Miss that man
People who think MPJ isos haven’t actually watched him
Going from KD/Kyrie/Harden a few seasons ago to this
It’s a cycle man. We had 0 picks and a bunch of scrubs before getting the vibes back with DLo and the guys that brought KD and Kyrie.
We will get the KD and Kyrie of this generation in a few years 😂
Zion, Ja, and RJ Barrett team up in Brooklyn alongside a veteran Joe Ingles
I legit think Ja, Zion, MPJ, and Randle would be awesome the 20 games they get to play together.
20 games? Let’s not be hasty.
I’m a nice person and wanted to be optimistic.
That’s how it usually goes. You shoot your shot and then take time to reload for the next one. The days of dynasties are over.
I remember when Nets fans were mocking Knicks fans for that. Knicks went 17-65 and lost out on KD and Zion and the Nets thought they had a sure fire ring. How time flies…
Why you acting like the victim lmaoo. You guys spent years telling us no star would ever pick Brooklyn over the Knicks lol it was nice for us in the moment to be wanted. Of course we clowned you guys back in the moment, we’ve never had guys like that on our roster.
cant blame em when they were rolling until Giannis injured Kyrie
Randle is underrated passer. He should average close to 5 assists for his career.
Mannnnn Julius has ALL the tools to be a 20/10/10 player but it will never happen because of how tremendous the mental aspect is of pro basketball
Funnily enough I think this pairing synergizes pretty well if Randle can draw help in the paint
Could have fooled me lol.
He also great at throwing grenades
We got Jordi Fernandez, it won’t be iso ball
I think it’s a mistake to get Julius Randle and not run iso. He’s very good at it. And he’s good at it because he passes out of it really well. Averages a lot of assists and scores efficiently.
Nets will flip MPJ and Randle for other assets
If Randle could bring back assets wouldn’t Minnesota have done that deal instead of salary dumping him by attaching a pick upgrade?
Can probably get stuff for MPJ though.
Would depend if they can rehab randles value they did it with mpj to an extent already
they’ll trade em for two seconds while having to throw in two firsts.
MPJ doesn’t play iso ball. Y’all just be saying anything. Being a play finisher isn’t the same as playing iso ball.
Y’all just be saying anything
Nobody here actually watches games. Let alone Nets games.
Day’Ron Sharpe as a starting center will turn heads, guaranteed.
He was 15th in the league in offensive rebounds per game while only getting 18mpg.
I’m glad we’re moving off of Clax. Randle is a low risk low reward bet & we can draft another big man. Claxton is overrated as fuck, and I was sick and tired of his Clantics.
Wow, I think you’re dead wrong on this, he’ll rack up boards but will get exposed defensively by quicker/ bigger centers.
Keep in mind that most of Sharpe’s production came against reserves too.
MPJ literally isn’t an iso ball guy
Devious Dubious
Young talent in Brooklyn kinda sucks anyway outside of Egor
The pg could be good if he develops a jumper
I like Nolan but you could say that about most of the young players in the league unfortunately
True. Let’s hope tho
I have some hopes for Wolf. Other 3 rooks looked rough tho
Traore will be France starting PG in 2028. He’ll get there. Can actually drive with some quickness or burst. Just needs to see the floor better and relax.
you don’t see how a man who backs for eternity and throws a grenade is gonna fit with the quickest shooter of the east? like what are you guys saying?
it’s like the perfect yin yang. their shot diets are separate
Most of the young talent are known as playmakers, not scorers so it makes some sense to surround them with people more than willing to shoot the ball
MPJ is catch and shoot or plays offball . He doesn’t ball hog or dribble for 20s lol
you’ll be fighting for the play in with them next season
I hope so. Better than the crap we’ve been watching the last 3 years
Nah lol
Absolutely deranged lineups developing in Brooklyn
The Immoderate Misadventures of Dubious Handle and The Possession Ends Here
The most devious iso combo?
Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury on the New York Knicks
Nah that’s really not a super crazy ISO lineup. MPJ moves off ball a lot, and Randle is a willing and capable passer.
It’s like the anti Malone/Stockton
MPJ iso ball???
An MPJ, Randle, Danny Wolf frontcourt will feed families. Maybe.
You missed Marbury and Francis
Spreewell and Houston in the 1999 playoffs was the most ridiculous iso ball duo that I’ve ever seen. This was some of the ugliest ball that you could ever witness.
I mean it’s not bad. They also are slated to pick up a potentially franchise altering guard tomorrow too. I am not mad at the move, especially with even draft odds now… go and win some games!
Cam Thomas is definitely worse than Randle, so by default Cam Thomas + MPJ, or any mutual teammate for him and Randle, would be worse.
Watching the Giants and Nets is definitely a skill…
We literally just had Kyle kuzma and j Poole have yall forgotten truly THE duo of all time
The real bummer is losing Claxton. Him and MPJ had some nice chemistry brewing
Nets aren’t done. Makes less sense than the last year of no sense….ffs
MPJ doesn’t play iso ball?
MPJ never isos, his game is all handoffs and back-door cuts.
Antoine Walker and Antawn Jamison would like a word
This question is extremely disrespectful to the hard work of Iso Joe Johnson.
He + one of the Joshes is the worst ball movement duo in the same way that Smush Parker helped Kobe score all those points one time.
Idk maybe if they had the bing chilling monster down low, Yao Ming
Randle seriously underrated by r/nba
MPJ and cam Thomas were all very devious in their time
Believe or not, Randle might not be that good, but he can pass
Neither is really an ISO ball guy. And Randle can be an ok facilitator from the 4 position. top quarter or so for the position I think.
Randle’s issues are elsewhere.
Nets going to get punished for tanking next season, aren’t they?
Every possession ends in a 30 foot bomb or 12 second painful Randle post ups
What young talent?
No
Other then Egor doesn’t have much young talent
Like this is the most cucked shit ever they deported Randle to Lakeville, Minneapolis, the player who he got shipped out for won a chip not 2 years after he got there, and now he’s being sent back to the city but he’s in a Serbian Labor Camp rather than The Upper West Side
It’s something that’s for sure
Wolves fan in 2024: “Trading KAT was the right move🤓”
Wolves fan in 2026: “Trading KAT was the right move💀”
A match made in hell
It would not surprise me if MPJ heads to The Bay
This team is still going to be a hard watch on League Pass
Same with the wizards signing young
I hate Julius Randle. Couldn’t tell you why but he is not it.
Devious? I was thinking more dubious.
Yea dont care about this
At least Randle wants to win
Melo and Iverson
Randle is an atrocious ball hog. He is going to keep moving around the league. Be a 9 team kind of guy.
gonna be a fucking disaster
A competent Nets front office is trying to trade both players before the season starts. It would be so delusional to think this team makes any sense. So far I have no idea if the Nets have any vision to carry out this rebuild though
Looking at the Nets roster last year, how did they win 20 games? Lol
Who cares? They both gone next year.
KD and Westbrook
Ngl I’m gonna enjoy myself a few Nets games next year. Could be kinda fun from a neutral perspective.
Actually 2018 lakers had kuzma ingram randle
Carmelo and AI would like a word
nah i hope they trade Randle, i have so much love for that dude and he absolutely deserves better than rotting on the Nets
i thought mpj just catch and shoots? he isos?
OP doesn’t watch basketball and gets his opinions from reddit narratives
Did Carmelo and Iverson ever play together?
What if posters knew anything about the topic they are posting?
MPJ is running around screens to catch and shoot and you think that’s iso, delete your post
I think they can co-exist if they play nice…Each take turns playing ISO ball LIKE every other game
MPJ was a perfect off ball player last year and Randle showed on the knicks that he can be an offensive engine that can move the ball well
So many people just post shit without actually watching games
Based on usage rate I’m not really sure why you think this is really an issue at all tbh,
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-usage-leaders-this-season
The Brooklyn Nets sacrifice hopes of doing anything serious every single year to deliver the funniest basketball in existence and we need to give that more credit
It’s gonna be like the NBA2K iso jokes during Kyrie-Harden-KD era when they each take turns doing 100 dribbles and pull up.
Except now it’s MPJ and Randle.
Why did the Nets do this???
Draft pick and to be in the 10 11 spot for best odds for future picks
If they were tanking this would’ve been the dream duo. Now they’ll just end up with the worst record and a shitty pick 😂
The Nets never prove anyone wrong
Randle playing shitty basketball in the shitty stadium in the shadow of the world champion Knicks is really going tosuck for everyone involved
“Maybe the Nets will prove me wrong” is never something you want to hear
They probably buy out randle right?
No, I don’t get why so many people think buyouts are so easy like that.
Also the nets like actually need players on the court to be a basketball team lmao
Why would they? Don’t have our pick next year
not even the most devious in recent nets history. Kyrie/Harden existed.
that team were actually title contenders until Giannis injured Kyrie. didn’t even need Harden
That team wasn’t just title contenders, they were title favorites. They were putting belt to ass to everyone in the playoffs.
It was really Harden going down that tanked their chances.
Harden played unselfish af with the nets.