Remember when they blew the Giannis/Embiid emergency fund and ended up with Bridges? Yeah I’d do it again

Yeah could you imagine that pressure next season?? Chip or bust is out the window it’s chip or dissolve the team lol

Dominant trophy run and all five starters under contract for two more seasons, we’d be insane to get within 1000 miles of this.

Back at the deadline I had the Knicks picked for the team that would make a desperate big move for Giannis to chase a ring. Somehow seems less likely now.

Man what a relaxing summer it’s being lmao

I still remember when Knicks fans were fantasizing about a superteam of KD, Kyrie, and Zion in 2019. It worked out for the better that neither that scenario nor a Giannis trade ever happened.

Deadass

Maybe this is just smoke and mirrors to try and drive up the price or something, they don’t appear to be interested in the Heat package or they would have done it in February I think.

Why? So we can watch Brown maybe carry us to the play in because the rest of our roster is shit? He’s too old for us to build around. Give me the picks or feature Brown heavily in the offense as the main guy for the first half of the year and then flip him for picks to some team desperate before the ASB.

Homer aside, do we think Jaylen Brown who’s a worse player and only 2 years younger is going to command more on the market than Giannis?

Yeah that’s why I’m a bit skeptical this is all true, brown alone is worth more than herro, role players, and a bunch of mid first rounders. I think they’ve already decided on the package and are just hoping to squeeze a little more out of the deal. If it does end up being the heat im gonna assume brown was never truly on the table.

I don’t really understand the appeal of flipping Giannis for someone who’s clearly a worse player than him in Jaylen Brown.

If you’re trading Giannis, your primary goal should be setting yourself up better for the future and Miami’s offer is substantially better in that aspect as you’re getting multiple young players, a substantially better pick this year (huge difference between 13 and 27), and more future draft capital. It’s also probably going to be easier to flip Tyler Herro than Jaylen Brown since his contract is more manageable.

But those picks could be anything. They could even be Jalen Brown!!

Disagree. I’d take multiple firsts over jaylen brown every day of the week. Analytics HATE Jaylen Brown. He’s a chucker. A Derozan that plays (significantly) better defense.

But if they take Jaylen in return they just suck and have no picks still. It’s a lateral move.

The Heat offer is not good, but the Celtics offer does not move me at all unless they can get more picks.

Honest question. Why? It’s just Jaylen Brown and scraps. Or basically, Brown for Giannis. Miami side is Herro, Ware, JJ, and multiple firsts. 

Brown alone is worth way more than all that?

Did I miss something? 

NGL I might get shidded on but I also really like Heat’s package too. But yea I guess you really do need to go for the best player in the package.

It says a lot that they can’t find a third team to hop in and take Jaylen Brown immediately.

Because Miami would be young players and picks. Trading Jaylen would just get you picks, presuming Boston really isn’t throwing any extra young talent on the table

I’m a Bucks fan and I might be the only one who prefers the Heat’s package lol

Unbiased I would as well. Younger pieces that can develop into something special plus draft capital. Even if they get jalen brown the team isn’t really constructed to win right now you’re basically hoping to flip him for more assets as well.

Because they’re trying to extract more value from the Celtics

Brown doesn’t make sense for Milwaukee

The question is can they flip him for more draft capita than that.

I have a feeling Giannis will not be on the Celtics and the Bucks are just using past conversations to try and drive up the price

How? The Bucks are rebuilding. Jaylen Brown is not dragging them into a solid playoff positions and the Celtics draft position will be garbage for years.

Sure you get a decent asset in return but you want the picks from Miami because they’ll most like stay around a middle pack team (or worse) plus an extra couple assets for the deadline for more picks. Now you can then pick package and exchange for better draft positions for the next 2-3 drafts.

Bucks should take the Miami offer

I don’t get how Brown’s contract becomes more palatable after a year. You are losing his youngest year in the contract. It’s not like he’s coming off an injury, he’s coming off a career year.

No sir. We want picks in this draft, and beyond. We do not want Brown in a Bucks uniform, he does not fit the rebuild timeline. Either a third team is involved to take Brown or its no dice

Windy also mentioned that the Heat are trying to improve their offer by including 3rd/4th teams. Chiang also seemed doubtful the Heat would have a better offer. Stein mentioned Bucks ownership being “insistent” on getting a star player.

Just feels like the deal is close to done

I think the Bucks would take JB, Hugo and #27 right now if that was a real thing. We have confirmation that Brown is involved but no indication that Stevens would be ok including Hugo+ as well, only know for sure that the Bucks are hoping for it. Leverage blitz on both sides down to the last moment.

100%. Even if they don’t want to compete next year flipping JB for other players/picks is far more valuable than pretty much anything on Miami’s offer.

I don’t think the Bucks actually want Brown. I think the ownership wants Brown because they want to keep selling tickets once Giannis is gone. I think the GM wants the picks because they know this team is ass. And once Giannis is gone they can go full fire sale and get as much back as they can. Sure flipping Brown could get you more picks. But if he gets hurt bad you could also be stuck with him and have trouble moving him

Not if they can move Jaylen to a third team, even better if they move him to Portland for their picks back

I think you can easily flip brown for the the same value as herro+multiple firsts

they probably hold onto brown and get a haul for him from the blazers by the deadline tbf

You can easily move JB, he is a very valuable asset being an “MVP caliber” 2-way wing. Gonzales is the long term asset in this trade. 

I think you flip JB, possibly even to Miami.

The heat always find a way to get good undrafted players. They’ll figure that out again this year.

The spurs made it to the finals and only really played 6 players there.

Don’t forget Mr.83

Miami would still have Kas, Pelle, Dru Smith, and their MLE and some cap space.

Edit: Also, maybe getting other players from Milwaukee and/or Detroit.

I don’t love that trade for Boston

Yeah , Hugo and a pick? Pass.

Yea I don’t want to lose Hugo

Miami has been trying to get rid of herro for the past half a decade but he is a better asset than a finals MVP with 5-7 years left on his prime

Lol

I think Brown would get traded somewhere else too and he’d get a bigger return than Herro

It is. And Ware and Jaquez will be easier to move than Brown. If they keep both, they can be a solid 3rd and 4th option on a playoff team. Plus they get FRPs.

I don’t know why people are fixated with Hugo. Also, is Brown gonna net a return similar to the Miami offer? Doubt it.

End of the day, it’s Milwaukee’s choice if they’re trading to compete for the next 4 years or for the 4 years after that.

I prefer the Heat offer but then I’m not a big Brown guy, I think it is pretty limiting if he is on your cap sheet and making all that money to be a #1 because he’s not a #1. But if they are planning on immediately trading Brown then I could see the vision.

I thought the exact opposite. The Giannis-Bam combo makes absolutely no sense. Plus Miami would be left with no one of long term value.

So if I’m Milwaukee I’d be front row ready to bet on that failing in epic fashion. Plus Riley retiring soon, Spo moving on, and you are left with a colossal rebuild where you’re siting on all their picks

Giannis is showing why superstar trades may well be dead in this new cap era - it is much harder to have the assets and players for such a trade that still leaves enough left over to be competitive. Any team doing this type of deal is essentially getting their roster to get someone like Giannis and at that point are you still a contender? Only the spurs and OKC could pull off this type of move and still have a contending roster after.

That means the bucks will get lowballs, especially since Giannis is an expiring. 

Eh, Giannis is better than Brown….and a Tatum-Giannis frontcourt would be pretty nasty.

Celtics, as currently constructed, can’t compete with the Knicks.

There’s a possibility than Giannis is enough of a boost for the next 2-3 years to get them another ring, but Brown is the stabler on-court option for 5-7 years. The key word there is on-court. If Brown wants out, then Boston can’t keep him for too much longer before things boil over.

Yea, I don’t get it. Giannis is Giannis but it isn’t 2022 anymore. If Milwaukee takes the Heat offer, you still don’t have a star. And we all know that’s the most important aspect of going far in this league. And tanking isn’t an option anymore.

I’d take the Celtics offer.

yes. unless you can reroute Brown and get more capital.

I think you are crazy, Ware and Jaquez are “ok” at best. You would get a far better package flipping JB than you will get out of that Miami deal.

Everybody for years has acted like Brown is a fake superstar.

Any team would be lucky to have him.

no we want a full rebuild

If Brown was as good as people talk him up to be, he’d be flipped in the deal already.