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Professional instigators The Ringer

I don’t know how you can put Fox in the top 80 with a straight face

He deserves it. He looked like a borderline star the whole playoffs . He was the most important piece on both ends. His efficiency in the finals was blistering. Even though he turns 29 next month he’s still improving. Could potentially get some all stars in his prime

This is a problem with rankings. People like OG who play a role and are great at it get underrated and people who can score in volume against bad teams in the regular season get overrated. OG showed he can average 20+ hyperefficiently if he needs to, even against good teams, and more importantly play elite, switchable defense and make big plays.

The Knicks just clobbered the Spurs because wings who can play switchable defense and sacrifice stats to play within an offensive system are more valuable than a dude who can get you 20 by stopping the offense dead.

Yeah I’d take OG over Amen Thompson any day

We already knew.

He was gay, OG?

Something, as good stewards of the earth, that we should all Aspire to

Only during apple time

Bill simmons was starting to call one of the ringer podcast studios aspiration studios

OG at 21 is definitely him getting hot at the right time but at the end of the day, him getting hot is 1000% the difference between a Knicks championship and them losing; which is very valuable lol

As a spurs fan, I think OG over castle is correct. This doesn’t include potential, it’s who they are now. That deadeye 3 plus elite defense is chefs kiss

I think KAT at 12 is even more ridiculous lol

Good, Castle shit the bed in game 5 and for some reason barely anyone talks about it

20 ppg, 72% true shooting, top five playoff defender in the world. No one below him can dream of accomplishing that

I’ve always compared OG to prime Bam but at the wing position. DPOY level defense that can also give you 20 a night

Problem is OG was always underrated and always ranked in the 40s while Bam always got ranked around the top 20 (mostly because of the Heat’s finals runs).

Now that people got to see OG on the big stage I think OG’s ranking describes his actual value. He is a max player for a reason.

Hopefully he finally gets first team all-defense next season

As someone who doesn’t have time to watch regular season anymore but found the time for the playoffs - are we sure OG isn’t top 10? 😂

Castle is my favorite player to watch in the league but he’s firmly out of the top 30, at least for now

Ya, it’s an over reaction to the finals 

If we wanna bump OG and castle up for being good in the playoffs, sure 

But mid next season we’re just gonna bump them back down to the 40s or whatever, lol

Pretty much. Giannis is worthy of the top 4 but also has injury issues

Kawhi at 7 is nuts. Dude is never healthy. HTF

There’s at least 6 above Lebron that are not better at basketball right now than Lebron

KD has never, for a single minute of his life, been better than Lebron James

They dinged him hard for injury. Dude made 4 straight first team all-NBAs before the injury, wonder how many guys ranked ahead of him have accomplished that

Or KAT lol

Heavily weighted in favor of guys who went on lengthy playoff runs. Mitchell Robinson obviously isn’t a top 100 player for example, but he gets the championship bump.

yep, classic extreme overreaction to a small sample size of games.

The Dyson Daniel’s one made me angry lol

over kawhi IMO. The whole article is putting playoff performances into account so why is Lebron the odd one out? literally carried his team to the second round, meanwhile kawhi sold out in a crucial play-in game.

He literally beat us by himself

Imo For one game Lebron is still #1. Won a playoff series with no help. For a season, 20 is more accurate.

I would’ve had Tatum at 10 on this list, even accounting for him not being at full strength

His rebounding and playmaking is elite at this stage. All that’s left is if he stops chucking ill timed 3s to reach that next level

Holy shit that series was two months ago.

The NBA playoffs are way too fucking long.

Everyone so eager to write him off as washed lol still led his injured team to win a playoff series 

Death, taxes and the ringer putting old man LeBron below a lot of dudes he outplays whenever it matters.

And below Durant. He should be above all three

Everyone is better than LeBron until it’s time to be better than LeBron

Giannis isn’t 7th in true talent but he played 30 games last year and hasn’t won a playoff series in 5 years. He needs to earn his way back into the top 5 this year.

Ringer rankings are very much a snapshot in time. Right now Kawhi played basically a full season while Giannis missed ²⁄₃ of his

Kawhi has glimpses of his monster self still, it’s not like 7th without being active is some insulting placement

they wouldn’t be “updated” rankings otherwise

What the hell else are you supposed to rank based on besides the playoffs lmfao

No shit lol. Why are people here pretending playoff performances and runs shouldn’t be weighted heavier than regular season play?

Idk, if yall told me I NEEDED to win a basketball game, I’m for sure taking Brunson over AE and Tatum.

it’s a team game and Brunson is clearly pretty good at that

winning is one of the top indicators of being good

He just did some shit that literally only Jordan did when almost no non-Knicks fan thought they’d win. If you take defense into consideration there’s plenty more “complete” players but Brunson deserves to be in elite conversation period

Kawhi and Curry undoubtedly played at a higher level than LeBron this season, it’s a player ranking not a team ranking. They didn’t have Luka to carry them to the playoffs

I was comparing it in my head and it’s funny that lebron and curry have had almost the exact same level of playoff success this and last year. Went to 7 with the rockets and got bounced by minny in 5 lol.

He had a great season last year.

Murray shot Curry numbers, he was cooked in the playoffs having to carry our team

He was all nba this year bro

#2 is way too high for someone who can’t get his team a bucket whenever he wants to.

I was really surprised to see him so low, but I guess it’s “right now(?)” so him being/coming off being injured plays a factor. He’s easily top 10 even top 5 otherwise.

What else is there to do? Criticize Trae Young’s hair or whatever that is Flagg is trying to grow on his face??

One plays basketball and the other has become a kalshi market manipulator

Availability is the best ability. Giannis is the freak but Ant is an ironman

Not sure that’s that case, and you don’t need to insult others who don’t agree with you.

The glimpse we just got of Harper is a better player than Castle, even if the sample size is small.

I absolutely love Harper and he showed out these playoffs but Castle is nearly always guarding the best player & doing a good job at it. He’s probably a top 5-10 perimeter defender in the league already and the difference between him and Harper on that end is still very significant. He also had an entire good season

Because Castle had playmaking duties, played way more minutes, was a huge reason we won the only game we won by hitting the clutch 3 and fts and was the reason Brunson did not have a efficient series apart from the last game. Also spurs most consistent player was Vassell.

Why should height be considered lmao 

He turns the ball over a ton… but I got nothing else. he’s a stud

Cade is way less efficient and not a shot maker like brunson

He’s significantly less efficient and he’s mediocre on defense at best

there might be one big reason his team is worse– him.

F tier bait

I really doubt if the Pistons and knicks swapped PGs that the Knicks would still win, Cade flat out isn’t the late game shot maker Brunson is.

Even as a wolves fan and KAT glazer that’s too high

That Trae ranking straight up disqualifies this list.