Mike Brown getting the Kings to the playoffs is a big feather in the cap in my book.

I mean, has mike brown blown any 3-1 leads in the playoffs?

Quite a low bar you’ve got there

For all the jokes people have made on Mike Brown over the years, the guy helped lead a Cavs team that had no business being in the Finals in 2007 and led the Kings to a #3 seed.

Mike Brown is Erik Spolstra compared to Doc Rivers lol

bro a broomstick would be a better all-time NBA coach than doc rivers

Yes

Yes, next question. (though it is hard to separate Doc the coach and Doc the GM).

What kind of question is this?

People left Mike Brown for dead. It’s very cool that he gets this moment and that his reputation amongst fans will forever change after this title.

I don’t know, but Doc is a huge egomaniac and Mike B seems chill, so I’m going with Mike B.

I always have to give Doc a bit of credit for getting the 2018-2019 Clippers to the playoffs and then taking two games off the KD & Steph Warriors.

Coupled with the previous year where he got the immediate post-CP3 Clippers to overachieve, it was a rare season in the latter part of his career where he wasn’t coaching a team loaded with top end talent.  That  showed he’s not a clueless dolt like this sub always makes him out to be.

Doc is the most overrated coach in the history of sports

also did arguable the hardest thing to do out of all of that, broke the kings 16 year playoff drought

If Doc was the coach of this years Knicks team they likely do not win the nba finals

Yes. Doc gets too much credit for the 2008 championship, when it was Thibs’ defensive schemes that really made the difference. Also the only time Doc won COTY was for a team that still missed the playoffs (though that roster was mostly trash).

100% without question. I have no idea why Doc Rivers keeps getting big time opportunities and seems to have nonstop respect, it makes no fucking sense. I don’t remember him elevating any team beyond its talent, and usually it’s the opposite and they underperform. Shit is baffling, I have Thibs as a better coach than Doc by a mile.

It’s officially the offseason now isn’t it

Mike Brown is a much better HC at 2025-26 than he was at 2006-07

Doc is the biggest fuckin scam artist in coaching history. Any success he’s had is 100% because of the players he coached. They won despite him. He’s never contributed anything to a single player or team he’s ever coached. He should be in basketball prison.

Yes.

Look at how bad the Bucks were when he coached them.

Is this even a question? Doc Rivers is the worst coach to ever win a championship and arguably only want it because his players gifted it to him.

If I had a choice between Doc Rivers and Nate McMillan would probably choose Nate McMillan.

Everywhere he goes the teams play like Paul George great and irregular season and then the playoffs disappear

Mike brown was massive in the warriors runs. Doesn’t get the credit he deserves. He definitely seems like he was the X’s/O’s guy of that staff

Yes, you can actually see Mike Brown getting better with each iteration of his team

The weird love that Doc Rivers and Ty Lue get as coaches has never made sense to me. Doc won a chip with a big 3, then had massive collapses with every other superteam he ever coached. Ty Lue rode lebron’s coattails and has never even sniffed that same level of success again.

Am I crazy for thinking the answer is: “yes, pretty easily”?

Brown got the Kings to the 3rd seed and doesn’t have the blown 3-1 leads on his resume

Doc always does less with more

Come on. This isn’t even close. Doc keeps being given super teams.

Yes and it’s not close. How many times did Doc take the Kings to the playoffs?

absolutely not even a question.

lol, yes. 

Yea and he’s better than Steve Kerr

KG and Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rajon Rando and Thibs really saved Doc’s legacy

He’s obviously a better coach than Doc Rivers. By a mile.

But… Mike Brown is not an all-time guy yet. You could easily tell the history of the NBA (including this Knicks championship) without mentioning Mike Brown.

You absolutely could not tell the history of the NBA without mentioning Doc Rivers.

All-timers in my opinion, must meet that criteria ^^^

Give Brown another decade or another championship and he’ll be there.

Easily

I still don’t know why Doc is in the HoF dude sucks

Has doc rivers ever said “possession after possession after possession after possession after possession after possession after possession” in a a post game interview??

Or brought out a whole ass laptop to criticize the refs in a postgame interview?

Mike brown 100% in all seriousness though.

Yes.

Easily

Doc would have found a way to make this Knicks team worse than Thibbs did

Brown would have gotten more out of that Celtics team, the Clippers and probably even the 76ers

The key difference is Brown is willing to make adjustments and admit he’s wrong, put his ego aside. Doc doesn’t do that and is willing to throw his own guys under the bus.

Doc’s always been overrated but Mike Brown is too.

Mike Brown is a chill dude, which is his biggest strength and biggest weakness.

Brown couldn’t actually lead the Cavs or the Lakers because the player personalities were too much for him to handle.

The same thing happened with the Kings. The team over performed because Brown had them playing basketball but they under performed because Brown couldn’t maintain the locker room.

With the Knicks, you had a bunch of players who are goofy and care about basketball but were under the tyranny of Thibs. Thibs is not the guy for a team of empaths.

Brown came in and let the team chemistry lead the way. They respected Brown’s basketball nerdiness. Brown didn’t mess with the vibes. The team succeeded.

But it’s not that Brown has secretly been an amazing coach this entire time. He has a major weakness when it comes to keeping the locker room on his side. He just happened to finally match with a group that fits him.

Yes. When you look at his body of work it’s legit very impressive. I feel an underrated trait of his is how humble he’s been adapting his style throughout the years and to what team he’s on.

For the most part his teams always seem well drilled defensively with the talent on hand and generally good chemistry

Mike has improved over time. Doc has not

Almost every coach is better than Voldemort.

I think so. Doc completely destroyed the Bucks. Mike Brown had struggles with the Lakers but no one could save them.

Absolutely.  Knicks win aside Brown’s time in GSW gets overlooked.

He wasn’t just a random assistant on the bench. He was associate HC and had very significant responsibility. Kerr and the players have credited him a ton over the years. Acting HC during an 11-0 playoff run in 2017.

Any random kid off the streets could do as good as Doc Rivers

Low bar

Doc is incredibly over rated

I would take Mike in a heartbeat. Seems like a much nicer person to be with as well

Yes. Doc has outdated schemes.

Yes

yes

“… despite coaching multiple star-studded rosters [after winning a championship] and underachieving with most of them.“

You answered your own question.

Doc is not a great coach. Many people forget that Tom Thibodeau was mastermind behind the ‘08 Celtics league-leading defense. Mike Brown > Doc Rivers for sure. That said, I hope Doc Rivers returns to the sidelines so that we don’t have to listen to him as an announcer during games, or frequenting all the podcasts.

He’s easily clearing Doc.

This shouldn’t even be up fur debate. Mike Brown and it’s not close

Yes

It’s not Blake’s fault

Success in Cleveland. Success in Sacramento of all places. And Now NBA Champion. He’s proven that he’s an elite coach.

Finally, I listened to an interview once and was so impressed. He started his career as a tough Defense first, disciplinarian. He realized that could only take you so far. He saw how Kerr built relationships with his players and how Kerr used player input. Brown incorporated those principles and changed as a coach.

Just happy for the guy because he seems like a good person and coach.

Yes. Doc has done less with more

Doc Rivers is ass

What the fuck is the bar. Doc sucks and has been coasting off a chip with one of the best teams of this century.

I think I might have said yes even if the Knicks lost to the Spurs.

Absolutely

Doc most recently fucked up Dame and giannis and by all accounts he didn’t have any control over that locker room at all. Refusing to ask Giannis to play the right game with Dame was wildly incompetent.

I’d argue historically Doc is one of the most overrated coaches of all time.

So yes, Mike is better. So is about half the coaches on history.