We didn’t get anywhere close to those numbers in this year’s playoffs. He had a solid regular season, especially pre ASB

He was really good last year and went back to bad Randle later this season. Might be injury related or something

He is a net negative, yes i would call that bad.

For whatever reason, Randle seems to get those averages by either going 30/14/10 or 10/3/2. He’ll have stretches where he looks like a top 20 player, then he’ll have a week where he looks unplayable.

Yes he’s been awful. No way you’re watching him play

Wolves fans wanna pay a guy 30 million for cap flexibility and get the same output as a 60 million AAV contract would.

Looking at the Knicks, none of their starters are providing better value for money except Brunson. You have to overpay players to win a title, unless you get Steph Curry winning MVPs on 11 million a year.

He’s a great player, but the Spurs and Thunder are the worst possible matchups for his game. I don’t think the coaching staff is blameless for his play in that Spurs series though.

Numbers are fine, vibes are opposite of fine

He almost sunk the ship after it was let out that we tried trading him. The he had a good stretch with ant out so he got happy again then dropped hard right before Denver which again they feasted he got happy. Spurs series happens and it was peak moody Randle as soon as things were bad dude gave up on defense then offense. It’s not that he’s bad it’s the roller coaster and for a team that is already chaotic at the worst times his emotions can be devastating.

He can’t process vs high level defenses and relies on athleticism despite being undersized. Got bottled up against SA and OKC and turns into a complete dud since he doesn’t do much besides score, ballwatches on defense and not a great rebounder

Destroys unathletic teams and bad defenses. He ate GS and LA alive last year but got benched in the WCF, owned Denver and was a dud against SA

They didn’t trade KAT for Randle. They traded KAT’s contract so they could afford Randle, DDV, Joan Beringer, and Naz Reid.

Certainly a risk and may turn out to be incorrect but there was more to the calculus than Randle = KAT.

They traded KAT due to the 2nd apron. Also KAT had the most trade value. And let’s not forget KAT is on the perfect team with a bunch of wings that can hide his defensive shortcomings.

Traded KAT for Julius, Donte, Joan Beringer, and effectively Naz as well since we had the money with KAT gone. We would’ve been in the 2nd apron and dead in the water if we kept KAT- let’s not play revisionist history. We would’ve kept him if the CBA didn’t change- thanks CJ McCollum

Money was a big part of it

I have actually agreed since day 1. You make ant and kat work, that is your core. Talent trumps basically everything in hoops. But the CBA really blew up our plan so its hard to blame the front office. 

It saved the owners hundreds of millions and before Donte went down, I don’t think any Wolves fans would say we lost the trade.

Sadly, he was a cap casualty.

Mostly money, and injury concerns. They did get the guy Tim coveted in Donte who got hurt. And they absolutely rave about Joan’s potential who they got with the draft pick.

That’s not what happened lol

Being a mavericks fan you should also remember that KAT was the biggest reason we lost the series against you in the WCF a few years back. He shot an atrocious 26% from the field in the first three games and we still almost pulled off games 1 and 2.

Everyone remembers the Luka step back over Rudy but it never happens if KAT plays even average that series. That alongside the second apron (although apron I believe is the number one reason) like others have said are why the trade happened. Good on KAT for for proving the Wolves wrong but the trade made a ton of sense in the moment

Different front office

Yes good one

New regime though so not really

Shit like this keeps me coming back to this sub, this got me good brother.

The point is that Mavs are not trying to trade Kyrie.

Kyrie is a great fit on the court, fills the biggest need (playmaking), and has been a great mentor to young players in Dallas.

If the Mavs were just trying to get off him, then sure, your trades could happen. But they’re not, so Wolves would need to offer more if they wanna pry him away. And Wolves just don’t really have any real assets that are good enough

This actually sounds like an even trade. Mavs get their PJ Washington replacement in Randle. Most likely he and kyrie are both being traded away.

A kyrie and Ant backcourt would be fun to watch if kyrie is back to his normal self after injury

Any deal that includes Randle is a hard no

So to you taking on Randle’s long term deal (and a worthless late 1st maybe) makes sense when Dallas could - in case Kyrie’s knee is really cooked after his injury - could just let Kyrie expire instead since he’s on a shorter deal?

Randle’s on a bad contract and an even worse fit on the court with Flagg whereas Kyrie is exactly what Dallas needs as a PG. That swap just doesn’t make any sense in any way.

Lmaoo

The Timberwolves do have experience with under the table contracts.

It doesn’t make sense unless there’s a team out there willing to overpay. Similar logic to Phoenix and Dillon Brooks. One first-round pick would probably be enough for Brooks if Phoenix owned their own picks, but because they don’t he has to be worth two first-round picks or one first-round pick and a good/young player.

Because the clippers haven’t done shit since they got him and they started to trade pieces last year

what evidence do we have that he cares at all about this? I

And I love Suggs’ intensity but it’s a double edge sword because he plays incredibly out of control some times.

I think his lack of shooting is overblown. He’s got a super quick release and takes them with confidence. His jumper kind of reminds me of a young ddv when he was inconsistent percentage wise. If he can stabilize his lower body mechanics I think he still has potential to make a big shooting leap.

Ant would just iso and shoot threes every possession. I’m not sure how the Wolves can elevate their roster to compete. They’re a perennial playoff team, but that’s their cap unless Ayo or someone else can make it to the all NBA fringes.

It’s not any worse than Randle and Rudy tbf.

Surprised you’re the only comment to acknowledge this

I just don’t know which is the team that wants him. He’s very good, but I find it hard to find a team that wants his archetype of player at his price tag.

It’s so simple. Why don’t we just do this? /s

I know, the recency bias is always insane. He was a huge part of the reason you guys beat the thunder.

If spurs don’t want their defense to disappear when Wemby sits, that would be one way to do it lol

No, thanks. They can keep running Kornet forever lol.

But we desperately need a true PG and I think Fox’s play style fits really well next to ant.

I said “idk how they would make it work” because I know the money makes it impossible.

Holy shit. Time flies. I wasn’t even thinking about his age and how injury prone he is. I was thinking of him as a super productive, electrically talented, cold-blooded NBA assassin – with insane character flaws. I didn’t want his character flaws infecting the team. But yeah, his age and all that, fucking hell no.