cleo22270 | Heat

222 | 4 hours ago

How many seasons can the Heat sheepishly welcome back Tyler Herro after openly dangling him all offseason for a star player?

AfroManHighGuy

44 | 4 hours ago

Herro probably wants to be in Miami at the end of the day, so he probably doesn’t care. His girl is also in Miami too

Less-Tax5637 | Knicks

-16 | 3 hours ago

she’s fine af too

Wd527 | Heat

22 | 4 hours ago

Tyler isn’t Jimmy Butler. He’ll ball no matter what.

Alert-Effective-1730 | Bulls

23 | 4 hours ago

Regular season ball maybe, there’s a reason none of these teams want him.

Wd527 | Heat

-13 | 4 hours ago

Didn’t realize you worked for front offices. There’s no reporting teams aren’t interested. Season before last he played 77 games and avg 24/5/5 on good splits. You’re very small minded if you think he couldn’t help most teams.

Alert-Effective-1730 | Bulls

16 | 4 hours ago

How about the fact he’s been linked with a trade for every star under the sun and it’s never happened.

Yeah those are his Regular season stats maybe look at his playoff performances while you’re at it. I said regular season ball for a reason.

I_Set_3_Alarms | Celtics

8 | 2 hours ago

Yeah but you forget that every Heat fan under the sun also wants to trade him.

So it’s everyone else who is totally undervaluing him, not them overvaluing him

Kzgoated | Heat

-7 | 4 hours ago

I mean I agree he’s not worth a star but several teams have been linked to him over the years. The pistons and raptors are linked to him right now. It’s just like you said he’s not worth a star and we’re not gonna trade him for picks. Other teams want him and have wanted him over the years. It just hasn’t made sense.

Alert-Effective-1730 | Bulls

7 | 3 hours ago

That’s the issue and my point though, teams who want him want to do it for a pick or 2 because he might not even make a difference in the playoffs when it matters, and the heat are trying to use him for a star.

There’s a clear difference in how the heat view him and everyone else does or they would have moved him already.

Kzgoated | Heat

-4 | 3 hours ago

I don’t think it’s a big difference, we’re just not desperate to get rid of Herro. We’re only desperate for an upgrade. He hasn’t been traded for picks cause that’s just not how the Heat operate as a team. And why not offer him for future hall of famers ? What’s the worst that can happen? The other team says no?

Prideofmexico | Knicks

1 | 9 minutes ago

He’d be an elite third option on a contending team

Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

19 | 4 hours ago

Jimmy would have too if they paid him

drjisftw | Pacers

14 | 4 hours ago

To be fair, we did it with Myles Turner for ages

Zeeron1 | Thunder

15 | 3 hours ago

Every. Single. Year.

It was crazy lmao and then just when I thought he was finally becoming a fan favorite and the heart of the Pacers, they actually shipped him out and everyone hated him again😭

drjisftw | Pacers

12 | 3 hours ago

We didn’t ship him out - we just lowballed him and he got pissed. Not an excuse, but the Pacers FO did not forsee the Bucks executing the largest waive-and-stretch in league history to make cap space for him.

In hindsight though it ended up being a terrible move for both the Bucks and Pacers.

ktm5141 | 76ers

5 | 2 hours ago

I think it was a reasonable gamble for the bucks. When you have a top-3 player in their prime, you kind of have to go for it. Brooke was cooked, Dame was out for the season, and giannis needs a stretch 5. They had a +7 NET RTG on the court together, which is a really competitive team. They didn’t give up any picks for Turner, and who cares about paying dame $20M for the next four seasons when they aren’t doing anything anyway.

I’ll always respect a team making a bold move to actually build around a star instead of hoarding talent that will never get the most out of each other until it’s too late (Magic with Paolo/Franz, Sixers with Embiid/Simmons, etc)

drjisftw | Pacers

3 | an hour ago

For the record, I do agree with you on all of the reasons that you laid out, but we all know that the rest of the Bucks cast wasn’t going to be good enough to get through the East. The whole strategy of, “Let Giannis do everything” was going to have an expiration date.

I get the desire to not trade your franchise GOAT, but the whole Turner move always struck me as delaying the inevitable.

Neuroxex | Bucks

1 | 24 minutes ago

I am holding out some optimism that with an actual head coach he can really bounce back. But yeah even if it was justified (and the people who think it wasn’t weren’t unfair for thinking that), it’s played out very poorly.

Prideofmexico | Knicks

1 | 8 minutes ago

And then pacers fans had the audacity to be offended when he went to Milwaukee lol

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

1 | 4 hours ago

Somewhere between 1 and infinity

ThinkSoftware | Hawks

0 | 4 hours ago

Ask Myles Turner

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

51 | 4 hours ago

Celtics definitely had Amick put this out lol

Also Eric Nehm saying the Heat offer is Herro, Ware, JJJ and one of KasJ/Pelle makes me think he’s going to Miami on Monday/Tuesday and the rest of the league is scrambling

StandardCertain5995

22 | 4 hours ago

Agreed with 1st half

I think Cs are trying to get away with shopping JB without his knowledge

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

6 | 4 hours ago

They also want the Bucks to shop JB for them. Shoulda been shopping him 2 weeks ago instead of putting it out there you didn’t want Giannis!

TatumBrownWhite | Celtics

4 | 3 hours ago

We are trying to maintain our relationship with JB, given the fact that you’re more likely to take the Miami offer anyways.

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

1 | 3 hours ago

Unrelated do you think they offer him the extension in July?

TatumBrownWhite | Celtics

1 | 3 hours ago

Good question. Really have no idea. That’s a lot to be paying post prime JB.

Rrypl | Celtics

2 | 3 hours ago

Lol all GMs do is talk to each other, by now everybody has a decent notion of what’s out there for every player

abippityboop | Knicks

15 | 4 hours ago

Eh I think if the Bucks wanted that package they would have taken it a long time ago.

tampasportsfan813727 | Heat

7 | 3 hours ago

This might be hindsight but I don’t think the Bucks were ever serious about trading him at the deadline, they did consider miamis offer the longest and I think seeing that the 26 pick is a lottery pick does add value to it

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

6 | 4 hours ago

I think they planned to take it over this weekend or early next week and teams are now scrambling to try and beat it.

abippityboop | Knicks

5 | 4 hours ago

Feels like some variation of Herro/Ware/JJJ/scraps has been rumored for months and months now. I just don’t think it’s going to be enough to get it done, not sure why any team would want to become a worse version of the 2026 Miami Heat as the core of their rebuild.

Maybe I’m wrong but I think you guys will get something better.

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

4 | 4 hours ago

I think the Miami deal offers them more individual bites at the Apple than other teams can offer.

‘26 lotto + Ware + Kas J + solid expiring in Herro + solid role player JJJ + 2 more first when Giannis is in his late 30s is pretty good.

abippityboop | Knicks

-1 | 3 hours ago

I hear you, it’s definitely a lot of stuff, but it also just kinda feels like a handful of change for a dollar type of offer. Even though Giannis has the ability to suppress his market, he’s still far and away the biggest prize this offseason so I would hope you guys get something more than Kel’el Ware as the most valuable return asset. But maybe just adding more and more picks to the deal ultimately makes it worth taking.

byteturtle | Suns

8 | 3 hours ago

The thing is whenever you trade a player of Giannis caliber you almost always get a handful of change for a dollar

Basically any team that has a player on his level (and there aren’t many) is never gonna do a 1:1 swap

abippityboop | Knicks

1 | 29 minutes ago

Yeah I realize that, I just don’t think these pieces from the Heat are good enough. I think plenty of teams will be able to put together their own versions of a handful of change that bring back better player assets than the Heat are offering.

SnuggleBear2 | Heat

4 | 4 hours ago

The rumor is that offer was close at the trade deadline. It’s pretty much the same offer but with more picks that we can offer now. But who knows if that’s really the best they can get for Giannis.

AgadorFartacus | Celtics

4 | 3 hours ago

Why would the Celtics have Amick put this out?

ObiOneKenobae | Knicks

2 | 34 minutes ago

JJJ

Shit you had me thinking I missed a Jaren Jackson to Miami trade lol. Jaquez is a great bench guy but that nickname is taken.

PretentiousPanda | Bucks

0 | 4 hours ago

Why is it on the Bucks to layout what they need. They have the player. Teams need to make their best offer and move on.

cleo22270 | Heat

8 | 4 hours ago

Because, as the article points out, they don’t want to hurt the feelings of Brown, Banchero and McDaniels if the Bucks go in a different direction.

Say what you want about Miami’s offer, but they’re pot-committed and not dancing around who exactly would be in their package.

Broke_Banker01 | Bucks

2 | 3 hours ago

Other teams aren’t going to piss of their 2nd or 3rd best players if it doesn’t work out.

Miami doesn’t care because they dangle Herro every offseason and deadline.

bornlasttuesday | Lakers

1 | 3 hours ago

At this point it looks like the bucks are negotiating in bad faith. I still think there is a 51% chance that they keep him and try to work it out.

MudReasonable8185

4 | 3 hours ago

Yeah I don’t think the bucks actually want to keep him but this is definitely the kind of thing you’d do in a negotiation if you felt like the other side was just jerking you around and wasn’t serious about getting a deal done.

PretentiousPanda | Bucks

3 | 2 hours ago

Tell teams to quit wasting everyone’s time then and make a real offer.

beatrailblazer | Trail Blazers

0 | an hour ago

I think Bucks fans (and the FO) just need to realize Giannis’s value is not that high. Obviously he’s still worth a lot but not nearly as much as a 2x MVP should be. He’s a significantly flawed player who doesn’t fit on lots of teams. He’ll be worth as much as a lower end all-nba player

MudReasonable8185

2 | an hour ago

A lot of teams that were waiting for Giannis moved on when both he and the bucks insisted that he’d never ever under any circumstances be traded. Like the Knicks wanted him forever but got sick of waiting and made other moves, magic traded all their picks, etc

Hog_Eyes | Bucks

1 | an hour ago

Then he’s not getting traded

MudReasonable8185

2 | an hour ago

I’ve always personally thought that Giannis was going to end up as this generation’s Dirk; win a ring for a long suffering franchise then just take early retirement and spend the rest of your career soaking up goodwill while spending every spring in cancun. Won’t surprise me if he’s still a buck this time next year.

PretentiousPanda | Bucks

1 | an hour ago

Are we being for real. People have a warped perception of his fit because he has played with Brook for most of his career. Who in the playoffs nobody gave a shit if he shot 3s so the spacing thing is a tired argument.

toadtruck | Trail Blazers

1 | 37 minutes ago

He’s rapidly approaching free agency

_Wash | Timberwolves

-1 | 3 hours ago

Because the bucks are selling? Teams just want to know what the price is so they can make the trade instead of fucking up the locker room by having the bucks leak an offer they won’t accept

TatumBrownWhite | Celtics

1 | 3 hours ago

Also Eric Nehm saying the Heat offer is Herro, Ware, JJJ and one of KasJ/Pelle

That plus Pick 13 meaning that they get another lottery pick in addition to #10, as well as future pick(s), make that really hard to beat.

I’ve always thought he’s going to Miami.

3rd-party-intervener

-7 | 4 hours ago

I mean at this point bucks are not acting in good faith. Just put a time and date and tell teams to put their best and final offer in. Then pick one

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

5 | 4 hours ago

Amick is saying that teams are asking the Bucks to make a best and final offer for them which isn’t going to happen. The draft is in 10 days and the Bucks already said they want this done before then.

XLVwisco | Bucks

5 | 4 hours ago

That is totally against the Bucks interests. The goal right now is to create a bidding war not simplify the process for the bidders.

3rd-party-intervener

-2 | 3 hours ago

There is no bidding war. Gianis controls where he goes due to incoming extension availability

GenoThyme | Celtics

3 | 3 hours ago

Both can be true. Giannis could say “I’ll only extend with these certain teams” and then you could get those teams to enter a bidding war (or at least hope to if you’re MKE)

dalappas

-2 | 3 hours ago

The Bucks control nothing. Giannis wants out. He wants to go to and East coast team. It’s basically the Heat and the Celtics and all the other teams angling to be a third team in the deal.

Prestigious-Cream160 | Bucks

4 | 4 hours ago

Why would we handicap ourselves like that?

Broke_Banker01 | Bucks

2 | 3 hours ago

Bucks want it done by the draft because they want the package to include picks for this draft given how strong it is.

By waiting until after the draft, teams cannot include those picks if the players sign their rookie contracts prior to the trade being official.

3rd-party-intervener

-3 | 4 hours ago

Your team is already handicap. Gianis controls where he can go due to where he will sign extension. Bucks leverage is weak

DemonicDimples | Kings

3 | 3 hours ago

Good faith is getting the best offer than can get.

Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

-8 | 4 hours ago

I fking hate Celtics media

AgadorFartacus | Celtics

1 | 4 hours ago

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Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

1 | 4 hours ago

You think they don’t talk to other journalists to get shit out?

AgadorFartacus | Celtics

0 | 4 hours ago

Not Amick. They use Himmelsbach for that.

Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

1 | 4 hours ago

Nobody started doing this till Bill Simmons open his yapper yesterday now is so much breaking news

AgadorFartacus | Celtics

1 | 4 hours ago

Started doing what?

SoulReaper12 | Celtics

1 | 3 hours ago

Or maybe because there some truth to what Simmons is saying, notice how nobody came out in disapprove what he was saying? But of course it’s the big bad Celtics media who making stuff up.

Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

-1 | 3 hours ago

Who said anything about making things up lol all I said was I hate Celtics media

FlipMoBitch | Bucks

-2 | 4 hours ago

Brad Stevens doesn’t want to put in leg work to make it happen

vincedarling

49 | 4 hours ago

So basically they don’t want Bucks to haggle like every other team would do in this case.

orwll

24 | 4 hours ago

The Bucks are the team that is shopping Giannis. It’s like posting on Facebook marketplace that you’re selling something but you don’t want to tell anyone the price you’ll take for it.

Crafty_Choice7779

24 | 3 hours ago

They’re shopping a superstar, not a coffee maker. The bucks are going to ask for everything from everybody and see how close other teams are willing to get to that price tag.

XrShJjXxE4ouwB

16 | 3 hours ago

Sure but you can understand why a team wouldn’t want to give the Bucks their offer and then have Milwaukee broadcast that to the world

InitialTimely105

6 | 3 hours ago

Right. Like we have seen this same old song and dance for years now. Why privately offer a core locker room piece when it’s most likely going to end with Giannis staying and your locker room being hurt by leaks of who was offered?

binhpac

1 | 5 minutes ago

yeah just make a secret deal like dallas did with Luka. very good deal.

The_Sign_of_Zeta | MIL

1 | 16 minutes ago

But the other teams are the ones who want the product. The are other teams bidding. No one is doing the Bucks a favor here.

bigdaddykw | Heat

-3 | 3 hours ago

They are shopping a super star whose market is closer to Butler and Ad then they want to admit. I guy who has missed games every year and missed 8 playoff games since 22 that’s 32 wanting 250 million isn’t as valuable. His game is not going to age well as his athleticism degrades

orwll

-4 | 3 hours ago

The bucks are going to ask for everything from everybody and see how close other teams are willing to get to that price tag.

I think good management teams actively identify what they want and then try to make that happen, rather than “ask for everything and see what happens.”

I don’t know but it kind of seems like the Bucks have no sense of what they want or what they need to do and they’re hoping some other team figures it out for them.

Crafty_Choice7779

7 | 3 hours ago

This makes no sense. The bucks know exactly what they need, they need to use their one major asset to secure as many assets as possible to jumpstart a rebuild in which they’re starting without their picks. In no way does that mean giving up leverage in order to avoid marginally disrupting rival teams’ locker rooms.

I doubt guys would even be that offended at being in Giannis talks. This just seems like other teams wanting Milwaukee to lowball themselves

Neuroxex | Bucks

1 | 23 minutes ago

Bit of a weird analogy given that there is also an extremely popular, used throughout history, method of selling that operates by not telling anyone the price you’ll take for it that begins with an A and rhymes with Bauction.

orwll

1 | 18 minutes ago

Most auctions have reserve prices

The_Sign_of_Zeta | MIL

1 | 15 minutes ago

I bet they gave one no one is meeting.

Neuroxex | Bucks

1 | 12 minutes ago

And the reserve price is, of course, always advertised up front and never confidential.

Vordeo | Jazz

3 | 3 hours ago

Tbf we’ve been seeing reports on this stuff for a couple seasons now, so if these front offices are anything like us they’re probably just sick of all the Giannis talk lol

binhpac

1 | 4 minutes ago

the lakers want them to come to them like dallas did in secret and then give them Austin Reaves for Giannis.

Tiny_Spread5712

26 | 4 hours ago

I think the bucks would be happy to ruin the locker rooms of all of the teams in the east that they didn’t trade with.

macarolls

22 | 4 hours ago

This Giannis Trade Saga seems longer than the Frieza Saga in Dragon Ball Z!

Daki399 | Nuggets

5 | 4 hours ago

Giannis trade saga is on going since 2022. Usually it was media fabricating things , like Charania saying last season hes “Giannis Def gonna get traded ” and didnt lol.

Now finally trade is concrete and is gonna happen one way or another

MadTownBoi | Bucks

2 | 2 hours ago

Brother the Giannis trade saga has been going on since like 2019

TheFierceAnimal [OP]

4 | 4 hours ago

Seems longer than the Chimera Ant Arc in Hunter x Hunter

spiritnou | Knicks

3 | 4 hours ago

But that was actually good. This saga is just ass at this point

RyouBestGirl | Spurs

2 | 3 hours ago

Nah, it was dragging too much.

HxH peaked at Yorknew

spiritnou | Knicks

1 | 2 hours ago

Yorknew was goated but I’d argue the current arc is pretty good too

RyouBestGirl | Spurs

1 | 2 hours ago

The problem with current arc that it takes years to get somewhere, especially when it has started 12 years ago.

World Trigger has similar problem with expedition preparation arc.

qqbeef

2 | 4 hours ago

Bucks have 5 minutes to find a trade package.

likewoahitsaj | Bucks

1 | 3 hours ago

A great saga in DBZ tho I’m partial to the cell saga!

jumpijehosaphat | Spurs

7 | 4 hours ago

no back and forth? these gms must have art of the deal in their bookshelves

OliviaHoops

4 | 4 hours ago

honestly okc is the team nobody’s talking about enough. they have the picks and young assets to put together a better offer than anyone. if presti decides to go all-in it changes everything

North_Atlantic_Sea

8 | 4 hours ago

I think few people are talking about OKC because they don’t think Presti will do it. In their post season press conference he was very strong in his praise and commitment to the current core.

Not saying that couldn’t change, but it doesn’t seem like a very Presti move

BeamTeam23 | Kings

2 | 4 hours ago

While he won’t throw his chips in for Giannis. I would think he’s got to use his draft picks any time now. He can only kick them down the road so many times.

North_Atlantic_Sea

1 | 14 minutes ago

“he can only kick them down the road so many times”

Why? What’s preventing him from just continuing to do it?

AleroRatking | Vancouver Grizzlies

2 | 4 hours ago

It would require chet

I don’t see them including chet.

Spirited-Living9083 | Heat

1 | 4 hours ago

Because he said he isn’t going west

Rrypl | Celtics

1 | 3 hours ago

OKC’s payroll jumps like $25m for 2 off-seasons in a row, even with some decent salary shedding. It’s a very hard trade to make for the long term, unless they decide to sell both Chet and JDub.

Lower_Welcome1297

3 | 4 hours ago

Giannis u will be a blazer or celtic

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

5 | 4 hours ago

He won’t come here lol we’ll happily take Jaylen Brown tho

AfroManHighGuy

4 | 4 hours ago

Yea blazers most likely a facilitator in this, it’ll be a three team trade

Lower_Welcome1297

1 | 4 hours ago

Reports came out blazers are willing even if he doesnt commit to resign or extend…

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

2 | 4 hours ago

Yeah man, so what shams actually said is we’d be willing to trade 2 starters and maybe a single pick for him if he won’t re sign, and then he goes on to say that the price for Giannis will be much higher than that so the that scenario is unlikely.

It’s a fun headline for sure but not exactly a realistic scenario.

toadtruck | Trail Blazers

1 | 10 minutes ago

Not for the Giannis price we won’t

Apprehensive_Air1705 | Timberwolves

3 | 4 hours ago

There was speculation that some Wolves players (Julius in particular) did not react favorably to all the trade stuff happening at the deadline around Giannis. I am sure they would much prefer it not be a constant back and forth.

A_sandlerGOAT

3 | 3 hours ago

I mean people are lying to themselves if they think at least 26 other teams aren’t at least looking. I say 26 cause I doubt the two in the finals are worried about anything else other than that right now.

a_happy_future | Bucks

3 | 2 hours ago

The fact that they put this out almost guarantees the Bucks are NOT going to do that.

SrAjmh | Celtics

2 | 4 hours ago

Man I’m going to be bigly sad after two years of edging Giannis to Boston only for him to go to Miami.

yodanielchill

2 | 3 hours ago

This would all be done if Gianni’s wasn’t so afraid to publicly ask for a trade.

Him and Dame fucked up their primes because they want to never have, “Asked for a trade”, on their resume and it’s the reason they didn’t go to a contender or that their team never cared to put a good team around them beyond a couple years.

So dumb.

ANTHONY_EDWARDS_GBG | Timberwolves

1 | 4 hours ago

I’m so tired of hearing about this trade, someone hurry up and put us out of our misery.

SemenDemonsPenis | Supersonics

1 | 3 hours ago

We can all blame the choker fox for extinguishing spurs chances in the finals. Now we have to deal with the giannis pieces since the finals are done

likewoahitsaj | Bucks

1 | 3 hours ago

It is not the bucks job to protect other locker rooms and sell themselves short in the process.

Many-Health-2085

1 | 3 hours ago

There are definitely teams staying quiet because nobody wants to show their hand before the real bidding starts.

Neinhaltt

1 | 3 hours ago

The Bucks want to be wined and dined, they want foreplay. They want the other team to start with a butterfly landing softly on a flower petal and end with a buldog finishing a bowl of mashed potatoes.

dearth_karmic | Warriors

1 | 2 hours ago

What locker rooms? Everyone is in Cancun!!!!

heat_fan_ | Raptors

0 | 4 hours ago

Just want this Giannis saga to be over

thy_armageddon | Knicks

0 | 4 hours ago

I think if we go another season with these guys talking about Giannis being traded and he somehow stays in Milwaukee that we bring back stockades.

lurkingtonbear

2 | 4 hours ago

Nah we’ll just send the reporters to New York wearing Spurs jerseys. No need for stockades when much more severe punishment is dangling right there.

dennidits

-4 | 4 hours ago

other teams worried about bucks locker room, sure mate

TheFierceAnimal [OP]

14 | 4 hours ago

Think you are reading it the opposite way. Teams are worried about their own locker room if current trade negotiations were leaked

Equivalent-Chair9992

2 | 4 hours ago

I think he means the locker room impact of the other teams, like the Celtics don’t want Jaylen to know they are trying to trade him for example

AfroManHighGuy

2 | 4 hours ago

It’s the impact it’ll have on the team trading for Giannis. If the front office makes it public that they’re offering a key piece and a trade doesn’t happen, it could be bad for morale

[Amick]: Some teams are imploring the Bucks to come to them with all the final details of an offer that they would accept rather than going back and forth. The hope, of course, is that taking that tact would minimize the locker-room impact of the rumor mill.

It looks like there may be more teams involved in the Giannis sweepstakes than is publicly known. Any guesses?