It’s really hard to think of another better two way player in the league. Like really hard.

The way he navigates screens is insane. Hes completely unfazed by them. Him and Brunson navigating each others screens was art in that comeback.

He went from guarding Wemby in the small ball lineup to being the primary defender on fox in the clutch and then make the game winning putback, crazy game for him and the most important in the series, he really have a case for FMVP with his splits too

https://youtube.com/shorts/C7Qhmt0CaHI?is=mn3ALBP4cQYSk-RM

It’s a hilarious video.

that was unbelievable composure

People often forget his corner three 0.5 second game winning buzzer beater in the bubble

Yeah, there have been more than one occasion where OG has the ball in the corner and an open three, and will set and wait until Wemby races out to try and block him before he sinks the triple. Logically I understand the benefit of drawing out your opponents best rebounder from the paint to set up a favorable rebound for your team, but that’s a massive DAWG move.

He was injured that whole playoff run. Ruptured appendix. But he was always a solid player for the Raptors. People forget the 0.5 second “I don’t shoot to miss” playoff buzzer beater he had in the bubble.

He didn’t get playoff experience that year, but he certainly did the following year.

Madison Square Oguguarden

I’m down

Umami Papi

Missouri Ogugua

If anything Raptors should get paid for developing a god in human form

that’s correct I meant 2019 good catch

IMO that was the peak of his career, he was playing the best ball he ever had and then got hit with the ACL tear… really really sucks.

Turn the 6 upside down its a 9 now. Oldheads will get this reeference

He and Harrison Barnes shot generationally bad that series

Yeah off the top of my head for bench players I know Otto Porter Jr. had crazy good percentages in the 2022 Finals but obviously took far less shots. Just looked it up and his TS% was .867 in 17 mpg but only took 17 shots the entire series.

Yeah, me too. I guess it was a way to increase the sample size rather than filtering by minutes played. But a lot of bench players come to mind who logged a ton of minutes throughout their careers

Wouldn’t be surprised. He pretty much would shoot 50% from 3 every time he played the Warriors

No one, actually. I was just asking. OG still has at least one more game to play, so the stat could end up looking even better, or he could have a bad game and bring the average down

OGs answer when he was asked what he thought about Trump coming to MSG was hilarious. He said something like “He’ll just be there watching the game”. 🤣

So Tatum should have been MVP, not Brown? 

Brunson is the best player but we’re talking about MVP of this series and that’s OG. Steph was the warriors best player in the first title run and Iggy won MVP

Brunson isn’t like Curry though. He’s the most talented offensive player and takes the most shots, but what’s often frustrating is he often does more than he has to. Our team often goes on runs when he’s on the bench because it allows other guys who are playing at an absolutely elite level to get into rhythms.

Here’s a great video on our offense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9inbefSygo

Look how much space there is because of KAT and OG’s shooting. Look many opportunities are created because Hart, KAT, and Mikal are capable of passing once the defense is scrambled. Brunson is our best player, but the system doesn’t live and die with him at all.

OG true shooting - 78%

Brunson’s true shooting - 49%

Brunsons stats always look good, but he‘s been so incredibly inefficient this series. He’s shooting like 30% in some of these games, I feel like if you are actually considering a players value in this specific series it has to be OG

Four way tie

Brunson’s counting stats as the primary scorer for the Knicks means he’s not only playing a lot better, but it substantially more impressive. The Spurs are gearing to stop Brunson as their primary focus, then KAT. If they switched to OG, his numbers would not be anywhere near as good.

Having said that, the primary thing OG has going for him is that he’s the main defender, and as such his impact on the other end is enormous.

and like ¹⁄₃ of his scoring is coming in the 4th quarter, in a series where ³⁄₄ games were decided by 1, 4, and 1 point, with the latter involving the GOAT Nba Finals comeback

Its what the stats dont show. It is incomprehensible for a shooter to command the presence and take as many shots as he has, while only becoming more locked in as the game goes along. This would be a complete confidence shaker for so many others

while he hasnt been infallible, his ability to still average 30 under these conditions is a testament to how much trust they have in his clutch and how long hes proven the knicks can lean on him

Brunson is our captain but OG HAS to be our MVP if he has atleast decent games going forward. I was one of the few Knick fans that was thrilled with the OG trade, thank god Leon Rose made that bold move sending away 2 young fan favorites.

You’re good just thought it was funny considering what happened in that series lol

Moot point anyways. Complete the analogy by replacing Wemby with 2015 Lebron, and the Spurs wouldn’t be down 1-3 right now.

I wasn’t trying to write a whole essay in my comment. I do value his defense, but ironically it’s your comment, that doesn’t even acknowledge the job KAT has done on Wemby, that fails to properly value defense.

You’re the second Raps fan who seems more eager to glaze OG than to do anything to understand what happens on court.

If you think Knicks handing the ball to Brunson in crunch time is only due to “narrative speak” and KAT presenting a challenge on both ends of the floor to the MU nightmare that just ended the previous champs is “narrative slop,” you don’t know anything.

Take the Brunson shot before the OG tip in. Superficial observers like you see the miss and think OG “saved” the game. I’m not here to downplay what OG did. But did you really in your heart think Brunson believed that 3 pointer was a high % shot? No. Brunson saw the double, including Wemby, and knew the Knicks had two cracks at the apple: either he makes it, or his team has a significant offensive rebound advantage going 4 on 3. It’s not a new play. Knicks have relied on Wemby not being in a position to get the rebound on so many possessions this series. It could’ve been OG, KAT, Hart who got the board…it doesn’t matter. And of course it was an amazing tip by OG. But he doesn’t get that opportunity unless Brunson was doubled. That’s the whole series. OG has great opportunities and to his credit he capitalized on them, but he wouldn’t have those opportunities without Brunson and KAT demanding so much attention.

You simply don’t sound like you think.

But not this good. If he was always this good, he’d be a top 10 in the league player. He isn’t. He’s just getting hot at the right time.

You keep him from even getting the fucking ball by watching and deflecting passes but hey whatever

Brunson is the Captain of the Knicks, and the known leader. Even OG says that. Not a narrative or story there just the facts.

What does that mean on the court. Because these finals are played on the court.

He is one of the least efficient players on the team, and disgustingly far below league average. This isn’t “put it up by any means necessary”, this is active sabotage.

Brunsons gravity and high usage is a large factor in both why his efficiency would be lower and also in helping someone like OG be open in the corner and off cuts so much.

No. No. Stop. No. Stop. Stop. Stop. STOP

He is being doubled because he is going to put up 35% from the field on the highest volume of either team. That is a win for the defense. The Spurs gave up the largest comeback in finals history and they almost WON! Do you know how insane that is? Brunson missed both shots down 1.

OG is also not bringing the ball up and taking the constant beating that Brunson does.

YEAH MAN OG TAKING IT TO WEMBY IN THE PAINT AND BEING ONE OF THE BEST DEFENDERS ON EARTH, famously non-physical

And the reality is, the leader and highest usage player, as well as that players history with the team and some of the previous playoff series performances often play into the voting.

You keep giving me storybook crap because you know you can’t convince me that Brunson has been good.

Did Tatum get 2024’s FMVP when he was horseshit (not that Brown was spectacular either)? Bc you keep telling me Brunson is the leader. Tatum is the Celtics leader. Did he make it? Wasn’t Brown getting easier looks than Tatum if Tatum is the “leader”? Why did he get it then? You seem SO SURE the person who “gets guarded the hardest” is obviously a plausible FMVP. I’m waiting.

Yeah the Brunson slander needs to stop. He’s been excellent outside of shooting and has been absurdly clutch in the fourth. Did people already forget about the fucking dagger 3 he just put in right in front of wemby