it makes average picks much more valuable and amazing picks much less valuable 

The Denver picks are top 5 protected. Its only a 3 year trial so the only benefit is next years Clippers unprotected pick. They also have the Spurs pick next year but they are going to be a playoff team.

Is it good faith if by the time this new lottery system gets changed, it could benefit him again?

I’m only being half cynical here, your interpretation is just as likely

well its a 2 year trial and he said its a good short term solution lol

Maybe there is a complex system that would still be fun to follow but that’s really where my doubt comes in. I also think it would be semi counterintuitive to the current CBA. They introduced the second apron allegedly so teams couldn’t just build an elite team and choose to keep all their players (essentially punishing good drafting) causing the talent to spread more evenly throughout the league. Then you add this system to add more skill to the draft?? It just doesn’t make much sense in a world where the NBA has dumbed down team building and hampered contending teams from even making trades in the name of “parity”

You do know who Sam Presti is right

you know who sam presti is? OKC GM 😂😂😂 low iq

You still have time to delete this

Honestly think a draft conclave would be fun as hell and naturally self-correcting. All 30 GMs get together and create a ranked choice list of the lottery participants. All teams are basically inventivized to vote for the least competitive team but have latitude to penalize teams that are actually tanking purposefully.

All this changes is the blatant tanking and possibly making it more difficult for bad teams to improve.

Fixing blatant tanking was the main point of the draft reform proposals though, that’s what we’re trying to achieve here.

People complaining about the refs is a separate problem. Players sitting out games is a separate problem (that’s already kind of been solved by the award threshold).

Bad teams still have ways to improve, there’ll just be more emphasis on roster construction, player development, coaching, using draft capital carefully than just praying to the lottery gods.

The CBA is already going some way to forcing dominant winning to break up their cores rather than hoarding talent, so if that continues there’ll be a very healthy free agent market too

22 teams would end up with 100 credits each season. All 22 bid 100 credits for the top pick. Who gets it?

Was it the same credit system that use by basketball zengm?

Presti is def the guy to drop largest army and 3 victory points on his turn to win the game.

It’s a dumb idea but clearly this is not what they’re saying. He’s saying to implement a hard cap per team, but get rid of max contracts. If you want to offer Wemby \(150 million per year, go for it, but you’re hard capped at \)200 like everyone else.

I think he means a hard cap for team spending but no cap on individual contracts? As in no “max” deal for any particular player. Worded it terribly though.

He’s implying to stop capping player earnings. Salaries are capped, on top of the salary cap / aprons.

I like the hard cap idea, but it also kills Bird Rights. Which means more dynasties blown up before they might even happen.

It also greatly affects the middle class earners in the NBA, because the market will adjust over time.

Also with money being fully guaranteed in the NBA there would be no salary cap magic like the NFL.

It’d be most similar to the NHL, to a degree, but they have mechanisms to manipulate the cap space as well but it is a firm hard cap at the end of the day.

Anyway that shit ain’t happening it’s too complicated to change from a soft cap to a hard cap.

No.

How would that allow the lakers to win every year? If there is a team salary cap there is only so much of an advantage a big market team would get. Sure they might name a big name or two bc of their market but that already happens in the current system. You still have to fill out the rest of the roster but stay under the hard cap

The lakers benefit a ton from the individual max salary. If the contract you get is the same regardless of teams stars go there for endorsements and they like LA

Something went over your head

My bad, I should have said US Soccer.

I think players who are good enough should be left to compete in the best professional leagues while the rest go through school and college.

i dont think thats the reason for the age limit.

We had 2 years.

And your 4th quarter tank job this year gave Adam all the ammo he needed to get off Aspiration and Gambling.

Bro youre a jazz fan. We tanked for 2 years, yall have tanked so hard they had to change the rules

Sit down champ. You’ve been tanking for longer and haven’t got a sniff of a title any time soon.

Oklahoma has a poor educational system, no doubt about it, but the people on this sub who think it’s a good retort are the absolute bottom of the barrel in critical thinking.

Yes, OKC tanked two seasons, and only won 22 (72 game season) and and 24. They finished with the 4th worst record in both seasons.

The link is wrong btw, SGA had a significant plantar fascia tear, which was confirmed by imaging. That injury caused him to miss the olympics, which is something he didn’t want to do. We did rest Horford though. It was mutual, he was 34 and wanted the time to rehab some nagging injuries and didn’t want to play for a losing team so we shut him down. There was no real difference from trading him right then or during the offseason.

We were “blatantly tanking” those two years and for whatever reason got the most flack even though it was the same three teams below us in back to back years.

It’s wild to even go there as a Jazz fan when the Jazz benched guys mud game to force losses. Last two years Jazz have won 39 games compared to the Thunder tank at an equivalent of 49 (shortened season). Since moving to OKC the Thunder have won less than 40 games exactly 3 times, Jazz have done that the last 4 years in a row.

Jazz are tanking to prevent a pick from conveying to OKC. OKC could have don’t that in 2019-20, but didn’t and conveyed their pick to Philly which became Maxey.

Rockets tanked in 2020-21 to avoid conveying a swap, Philly tanked last year to avoid conveying a pick to us, Jazz did it this year.

The current system has hurt us more than it’s helped us. There are like at least a dozen teams that have tanked just as or more blatantly than us.

our only top ten pick is chet lmao, and while he is good, he isn’t some top echelon tier talent

He is outcome driven.

We had 1 top 5 = Chet, 1 six pick = Giddy who turned into Caruso, and 1 ten pick = Wallace. That’s our top 10 picks.

We did lots of great things like get picks for Chris Paul. Rehab him and his career, then send him to Suns for more picks. Presti made some smart decisions and set us up great.

I don’t think the NBA cares that much when it’s the three or four teams that they expect to suck tanking. No one’s watching them and they don’t give those teams national games anyway. But then they have years like this year where a third of the league is tanking including teams that they thought were going to be good and gave a bunch of national tv games to. That then becomes a problem for them because all the broadcasting companies they signed huge deals with are not happy. I do agree that their new ideas are just creating more problems than they’re solving but just doing it in lottery order wouldn’t work either. They should probably focus on making it easier to flex games. 

“if it told its viewership to suck it up more than trying to excessively cater to it”

Some of you have really lost the plot. How exactly do you think the NBA works?

The league cares because it’s a business. If you only have the half of the league that are playoff contenders trying to win and the rest are trying to lose every single game from opening night on because the team with the worst record gets the best pick, you’re going to get a lot of unwatchable games. 

Who cares is the league as a whole since everyone’s salaries are based on ad revenue on the inventory of games they play, and having half of your inventory be total shit where teams are actively trying to lose is not in the league’s collective interest even if it makes sense for an individual team.

I agree let them tank but don’t be surprised when all the bitching comes out about how unwatchable a random Tuesday game in Janaury is

I just don’t see a solution when there just aren’t enough great prospects coming in a year for teams to just allow the chips to fall, and they feel the need to bottom out for a better chance at the 1-2 times a franchise player does come along in the draft

why would any gm not be self-serving for their team lmao, maybe that’s why there are so many bad gms

how is this even self-serving? Mid teams getting top picks benefits the thunder more than the previous system did