Mike Brown goes off on tonight’s refs: “I never thought I’d be in an NBA Finals and see in the 2nd half 24 free throw attempts to another team’s 8”
This will surely result in some civil conversation
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I actually posted what I thought was a genuine analysis of the game and it was immediately removed lmao. Broke down the box score to show the game was won off the Knicks 13 TOs that led to 21 Spurs points, along with the Spurs going 25-32 from the line, whereas the Knicks went 18-22 from the line.
Knicks would have had more free throws if they actually gave kat the ball
Spurs made it difficult to get KAT the ball. They took Wemby off him and had a stronger wing get more physical with him while Wemby was shadowing. Also, they’d double him on the catch almost every time too.
I think ppl really misunderstand fouls. So much honestly the points off turnovers relatively didn’t kill them. It’s the pacing of fouls called and when they are called that’s been an issue for me in the series. Spurs have gotten away with a decent bit more physicality than the Knicks have and it’s resulted in some swingers of pace or what ppl say momentum that’s had to been corrected twice in two games and has also resulted in a very physical finals, which hasn’t gone both ways. Wemby got a weird favorite-like call last game for a simple shove & got nothing for a way more harmful push to the back of Brunson head. I think Ultimately Knicks loss because Brunson and KAT played poorly but it’s clear to see there has been some favoritism towards the spurs in some of these games. Oh and also randomly towards the end of the game they just started calling fouls why? Idk.
Edit: and then the random play where they let the Knicks inbound which resulted in an open shot. Instead Harper just walks onto the court to sub anyway. That can’t be legal in anyway. You gave the Knicks the ball why is Harper just walking onto the court weird stuff overall.
If you set the precedent of letting everything go early, I don’t want to hear a damn whistle in the fourth quarter you’ve already established that you want to let them play and nobody wants to hear the whistle towards the end of games damn it
It just screams, rigged and extending the series
If I see another fourth consecutive game where the Spurs are getting the whistle almost akin to that. Bullshit heat mavs DWade series I don’t know man can you even watch it when it’s rigged??
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I do want to stress Spurs probably deserved the W but refs were absolutely absymal tonight
Whistle was shit tonight. It’s like a totally separate group of refs took over in the second half
If they called it consistent the entire game then fine whatever. But the quick fouls to start the 4th was head scratching. Honestly Scott fucking Foster has been the most consistent ref in the finals.
There was no consistency. In the first half castle had a drive where he got clearly fouled twice causing the ball to pop out and there was a no call. Second half we got free throws for a slight nudge in the paint. I ain’t complaining about it cuz we got the dub, but I would be infuriated if I was a Knicks fan. There was no tone set on how the game was allowed to be played. You can’t give em physicality in the first half then strip them of that right during the most important minutes.
Exactly. I’m fine with a tightly called game, and I’m fine with a physical game where the refs swallow the whistle, but both teams have to be called to the same standard for the whole game. It’s a bad product to watch and a bad product to cheer for otherwise.
My team won so judge that for what you will but you kinda have to grab on to wemby to guard him at all successfully and the spurs play super physical defense because they also have to, to keep the knicks guards from shooting them out of the gym and off their game. And i feel like if both teams are playing physical it’s occasionally just going to naturally end up being lopsided because everyone is technically fouling.
I do think the spurs got away with more than the knicks that being said
I’m fine with disagreement on that but i think one thing everyone wants is to let em play for the most part and way less flopping which I’m pretty grateful this series seems to be composed of
He’s right
The Spurs legit had 6 players on the court and the refs stopped a Knicks play to suck them off.
the fact nothing was called or no penalty or anything for this was crazy
Knicks lost time on the shot clock for that.
That was the most insane part of the entire thing.
How the fuck do you REWARD THE SPURS FOR HAVING 6 guys on court, by taking away all of that time from the Knicks shot clock?
Like what the actual fuck.
One of the most baffling series of events I’ve ever seen in sports.
Honestly feels like part of the gaslight at this point.
Like, hard to know if I am watching cynical series extension to milk ratings dollars or genuine incompetence. Because, at least from a control of the game standpoint you have to call something on the Spurs there for just running on the court.
It was legal because the Spurs pulled their goalie
From the Spurs perspective, they were in the middle of making a legal substitution when one of the refs gave the Knicks the ball and let them inbound when it should be a dead ball, so yeah, killing the play was the correct call. The situation was chaotic but on the replay it’s pretty clear that SA wasn’t trying to break the rules and certainly wasn’t benefitting from having a sixth man out there when they weren’t expecting an inbound.
Sure, but if the refs don’t acknowledge your substitution you don’t get to just have six players on the court until they notice haha
That’s my point, a ref did acknowledge their sub! The reason both coaches are yelling and the refs conferred with each other was because one ref clearly acknowledged the sub while another ref didn’t notice and gave the ball to the Knicks. The problem is that the refs screwed up in a way that meant two slightly different games were happening at the same time.
it was on the refs for not allowing the substitution it was a weird situation overall so the spurs were not set because of it
But why wasn’t the shot call reset back then?
cause the refs are stupid that’s all lol
that’s not how it works, lol if they give the player a ball and he inbounds it, they NEVER go back and say ‘oops I meant to let a sub in’. and to just walk in during live play? what. i’ve legit never seen that before.
I’m still wondering how Wemby got away with stiff arming Brunson in the head
Well the answer is in your question, it’s cuz Wemby was the one that did it
Why did Hartenstein get away with doing it to Wemby’s teammate then?
Feel like we’ve all seen enough shit reffing in our time that we probably don’t need “league golden boy” conspiracies for missed off-ball dirty play.
Same way he got away with throwing Ayo or whoever by the throat last game
Was naz reid iirc
Refs in 7?
Some of our own fouls felt dumb as fuck. We have to stop their dribble penetration.
The dribble penetration is why the FT disparity was so high.
One team is relentlessly at the rim and the other one is avoiding Wemby.
No doubt some bull shit calls in this one, but it’s crazy to just assume FT disparity means refs handed a team the win.
I was shouting it all game. The spurs looked best when they were actually penetrating. Any possession they settled for a three did not look good
They’ve been doing this shit off and on all playoffs. Wemby at rim guards driving, looking good. Nah fuck that just Huck up a three from 5 ft behind line.
It seems like it comes down to Fox and if he is healthy to enough to do what he does best. Tonight, he willed himself to be the engine the Spurs needed in the 4th, but who knows if he can replicate that next game.
Yeah the officiating for this game didnt look too bad. ZERO players got double digit FTs. SAS were more aggressive and thats why they got more FTs. The Knicks were holding a lot, pulling down arms, esp on Wemby down low.
This game wasnt egregious, Mike Brown might have had a point if the disparity is like 20+ FTs different, as we’ve seen in some other games this post season. Marc Davis was decent enough tonight all things considered
I mean there was that one play where KAT let Wemby take Shamet one on one of course he got to the line lol
Mike Brown: Help him what are you doing!?
Kat: Hang on, let’s see how this plays out…
Knicks fouled, yeah. But they fouled too. Egregiously at some points in the game.
Knicks were pretty egregious much of the night too. Fouls were called pretty evenly both ways
Edit: check the box score if you don’t believe me. Knicks only committed 2 more fouls than the Spurs. They were holding and hacking all night long and didn’t get called for them till the second half. I’m hate watching both teams, but I have way closer ties to NYC than SAS having lived there the better part of the past 20 years. People will be in their feelings though
Like it’s four series in a row where the opposing team just gets to hold Wemby’s arms and back on every possession and they call it maybe a tenth of the time.
Constantly holding down Wemby’s arms when trying to stop him from getting rebounds, a lot of those fouls were clear as day. And some of them were not called. Maybe they should have tried to get the rebound themselves instead of try to pull someone’s limbs down
Working so missed most of the game but there was 5 fouls for just holding wembys arms in the 4th
Nah you don’t understand that’s just good playoff defense, never mind that shit is a penalty in the NFL, and a 10 yard one at that.
Dont think the knicks lost this game due to the refs but they certainly didnt help
Yep, refs were way more impactful and worse last game and the knicks still won
Games going to at least 6 in NY lol *brought to you by DraftKings
Yeah both the offense and defense tonight was nothing close to games 1 and 2. It’s like everyone on the team just wanted to stand around and watch Brunson score. Only OG made quick decisions when he got the ball
Everyone looked like they held on to the ball too long on their shots like they weren’t trusting their releases from game 1 and 2, except OG who is cool as a cucumber in every situation lol. I’m guessing the home court expectations got in their head or something. Hopefully this game shakes that off for them.
I actually think it was mostly a playmaking issue, they weren’t getting nearly as many open looks this game. Spurs did a better job switching and rotating coverage when Brunson weaponized his gravity.
I’m mean they only lost by 4 and the refs made and missed alot of bad calls. But the Knicks missing 10 three pointers in a row and still chucking them up certainly didn’t help
the refs missed a ton of fouls both directions. the spurs were going all the way to the basket through contact and the knicks were not.
And Brown even pointed out the offensive stagnation and not moving the ball enough, but had my view of “didn’t do enough to win, but the officiating was not helping at all”
Refs don’t need to score the baskets. They can shift the momentum of the game and that’s enough to manipulate the result. Happens super often, and at this point I don’t believe it is just them being shit but being very good at trying to milk this shit as much as possible since it’s the highest interest the NBA has gotten in years.
Those quick fouls to start the 4th quarter ended the game
They started calling it tighter with like 4mins left in the 3rd, the announcers remarked on it
They remarked on it in an instance where Fox seemed confused he got called for grabbing a jersey
Right, but all it shows is that they began calling ticky tack stuff on both teams prior to the fourth (even though that specific play wasn’t particularly ticky tacky)
Isn’t it just so cool how refs can just randomly and arbitrarily decide to change how they call a game halfway through 😃👍
(FWIW I have no skin in the game, just rooting for a good series)
They were letting way too much shit slide before that but youre 100% right
Johnson, but yeah
Commendable the Knicks had a chance even in the last minute
Yeah. I felt the same in game 2 and it was a miracle they walked out with the win after all the chicanery
They were all clear fouls.
The problem isn’t that they aren’t fouls. It’s that the Spurs are doing the same if not worse on the other end with no repercussions
Ill happily wait for the compilation but I don’t think Spurs were fouling anywhere close to the Knicks in that 4th start stretch. Also knicks fouled wemby twice in the start on easy baskets all were no calls
I agree. The Knicks were clearly pulling down Wemby and holding his arms. If they wanted the rebounds so badly why didnt they go for them, themselves? Or play Mitch Robinson more minutes, dont know why they are playing their big man less than ten minutes a game for some reason?
people really think Wemby is one handing rebounds for aura…
That was the moment the result felt rigged. The refs can pick and choose when to make the calls and the very start of a quarter is the perfect time to make multiple quick calls on fouls they werent calling at any other point so that its an entire quarter of Spurs in the bonus
The Spurs were in the bonus at the 9:18 mark. That is absurd. It doesn’t matter what team the refs are favoring, they directly dictate the results of games. At one point they let KAT maul Wemby, at other points they call something way softer. Its all about the timing with them. Its wildly inconsistent. Worst refs in all of sports
All of those early fouls were obvious fouls, really don’t get the reason for your complaint. Spurs were driving like crazy while 8⁄9 Knicks were settling for jumpers for most of the second half
shoutout kobe
Refs didn’t call more out of respect to bam
Mamba mentality
First two games Knicks nearly went entire halves without any FTs. Last game it was only from a challenge finally at the end, and then that Brunson steal off the back of Castle
Knicks had to challenge twice to get the call right tonight l, left them with no challenges for that last Fox foul on KAT
I was saying that the Knicks shouldn’t use their challenge on simple possession, and shortly after there was a more impactful play to use the challenge on.
Overturning that and1 3 was huge- the out of bounds play also got them possession back so both were pretty good challenges.
I will never understand why teams are limited to just two challenges, even if they’re successful on both challenges.
If they’re successful on both is the only time they should get more. You can’t just keep stopping the game.
NFL does it the correct way. If you challenge a play and fail you burn a TO, but if you win the challenge then you keep it. Makes no sense to penalize a team for fixing the refs mistake.
Let Spurs fans tell it he wasn’t fouled
It’s even crazier considering how physical the spurs brand of basketball is. Castle could easily foul out every game if they called every foul he commits
I don’t think the refs are the reason the Knicks lost, but I do think KAT in particular has a laughable whistle and should get far more calls than he does.
KAT should also be called for way more fouls on Wemby lol
He literally held Victor on the second or third to last possession of the game. Wouldnt let him go set a screen.
KAT also flails a bunch.
I’m gonna be real, you can call a hold in every single possession of this game. They usually only blow the whistle when arm hooking gets involved.
Seriously the guy is whining and hacking. Notorious foul prone dude suddenly got smart?
Wemby literally pushed Brunson down and didn’t get called. Let’s not act like Wemby is getting mauled out there
Wemby is both the mauler and the maulee. That shove on Brunson absolutely should have been called, but so should half a dozen off-ball holds of Wemby’s arm.
Idk why people don’t think two things can be right lol.
Two things can be true at once lol
KAT was literally holding onto wemby every time they were near each other in the fourth quarter. Absolutely brutal to watch.
People complaining about KAT’s whistle when he was straight up mauling Wemby are curious.
He literally commits 30⁄40 fouls a game. He gets away with just holding, grabbing and pushing all game and they maybe whistle 1⁄2 a game.
it’s always been that way - Wolves fan.
weird how the league babies some players like Austin Reeves but KAT can get assaulted with no call.
The start of the fourth quarter was very interesting. Yes there were could but it seemed like contact on one side was getting called but not the other
Spurs were in bonus with over 9:30 left. at that point, Spurs had committed 0 team fouls.
Yea I was at watch party that was pro Knicks, so it was biased but one team being in the bonus with that much time is beyond suspicious. Especially because i remember either shamet or McBride looked to get fouled on a close out after they called the technical on Brunson
It was insane, Mike Brown is completely justified in his reaction to it
The Knicks were making a lot of bad fouls and seemed really unfocused to start. All of those were clearly fouls to the sober eyes in the first 2 minutes.
Sure but to act like the spurs were playing perfect, fouless defense is a bridge Im not buying
None of the Knicks offensive plays in that span without fouls on the Spurs looked anywhere near that level of clear and obvious contact. All 5 of those plays called fouls on the Knicks were 100% fouls to anyone who was sober and without money on the line.
yea, i’m not fan of either of these teams but these knicks fans complaining about the discrepancy clearly didn’t watch the game or are too biased to listen to. the knicks committed a bunch of super dumb obvious fouls, a lot of which weren’t even called
Feels like im losing my mind reading these threads. I know I am a homer, and i know the Spurs play physical, but i did not see anything utterly egregious in the 4th quarter.
This is the knicks first time, all post season, playing an actual solid defense and they are losing their minds over it.
It’s almost like the NBA makes more money the longer this series goes…
I know it’ll never happen but ill be a lifelong glazer for whichever coach has the balls to say
“Look we know the league wants more games. They aren’t letting us get up 3-0 for the potential sweep. The calls were obviously gonna favor them. We made it close though blah blah blah…”
Mark Cuban pretty much called the league out for rigging the 06 Finals mid-series.
Yeah if spurs go up 3-2 the knicks will start getting favored
The officiating felt pretty obvious in the WCF just now, at least after OKC went up 2-1 on the road. No way they were gonna let them go home up 3-1, and so on and so forth.
He seemed really heated during the 2nd half. Makes sense since this is the finals, even if you’re a quiet or calm person sometimes you have to really assert yourself and get upset.
There were a lot of TV cut aways to Mike Brown asking the refs “fine, that’s a foul but what about at the other end..” with my mediocre lip reading.
It’s a pretty rational and valid question lol
Personally, I prefer refs swallowing the whistle and allowing physicality in the playoffs. But you can’t let one side be physical and then call the other with some BS.
There’s just absolutely no way the Spurs played nearly perfect defense for a full second half and it resulted in the Knicks only getting 8 FTs. Like it literally makes no sense just knowing how their guys “defend”.
Swallow the whistle or call the game evenly. Three games this nonsense has been going on. The Spurs have the largest FT disparity in the postseason. The Wemby favoritism is egregious.
Spurs had 5 fouls in the 4th quarter, Knicks had 8. The biggest issue was those 3 quick fouls to set up the 4th.
He just knows that a 2-1 can flip so easily. Being up 3-0 was critical. Now it’s a new game.
Game 4 is a must for the Knicks to win. If they don’t, I could see the series flip
Spurs played better and the refs were atrocious, both can be true
The no call on Wemby is ridiculous, hard to defend against the rigged allegations man.
Two missed flagrants in back to back games
And a tech. As they’re calling soft fouls on KAT to take him out of the game
It’s never rigged for a team to win, but they’re doing what they can to avoid a sweep in the finals, and there’s some sort of instruction about looking after wemby and some of his behaviour.
I never think its rigged, but the thumb is on the scale if you know what I mean. They def have more influence over the way a game is going vs other sports imo
Thumb on the scale is rigging. Just call it was it is. I forget how much I hate modern sports. Little to no integrity. Just more money.
One of the biggest referees nickname is The Extender, it’s pretty blatant.
Not to mention him having to use his challenges for 2 clear calls that the refs “missed”.
Tbf it’s been this way a loooong time. It’s obvious they like to keep series going longer, especially the Finals. It’s going my teams way so I’m not complaining….. but it definitely seemed like the league wanted the Spurs to get this one but I’ve been watching the NBA for 25 years now and this has been happening literally the whole time I’ve been watching
The plan: rig the biggest basketball game of the decade by missing a flagrant 1 call in the first quarter
Or not giving a tech for 6 players on the court and then not resetting the shot clock after stopping the play.
I think he has a point but I also feel like the refs let a lot of physical play go in the whole game. Wemby should’ve been flagrant not withstanding the Knicks were actually fouling alot lol.
That flagrant being missed might have changed the game. Forget the two free throws and the ball but Wemby now has 2 fouls in the first quarter of the refs don’t miss that. It’s so weird to me how three refs can miss an 8 foot tall guy commit a flagrant fall in the middle of the court and nobody sees it. And it happened two games in a row now.
“missed”
Agreed, I think the issue was more so that they weren’t called on the other end.
In the 2nd half this series the Spurs have have shot 47 free throws to the Knicks 28 and the discrepancy has gotten more glaring each game
And also remember a ton are intentional on Mitch.
That was only the first half of game 2. Hasn’t been any other hack a mitch going on.
The Knicks entire defensive strategy against Wemby the first two games was to foul him. And then avoiding shooting inside when he’s in.
Not sure what other outcome you’d expect.
Draymond said something enlightening on the Inside the NBA. Refs reward the more physical teams. Spurs were attacking the rim more, Wemby rolling to the rim.
The Knicks are a great jump shooting team and for some reason got away from attacking the rim. They completely went away from KAT led offense for some reason.
Because Wemby is guarding the rim.
lol right. “For some reason.”
Kornet comes in and it’s an all out dive bomb at the paint lol
The Knicks did foul plenty tonight I won’t argue that.
What I will argue is that the same standard is not being applied both ways. The spurs are allowed to play significantly more physical than the Knicks and have been since game 1. The whistle is not equivalent and it absolutely influences the way the series is going.
I haven’t seen Wemby get an offensive rebound with 2 arms ever; it’s always one of his arms just blatantly held
But the Knicks play way harder on Wemby that anyone on the Spurs does and it’s barely called. Maybe in the ball Spurs gets a little whistle advantage, even if that is the case they way they are letting KAT defend Wemby is a joke. Just hugging and holding.
Karl Anthony towns could have 5 fouls called in the fourth the way he is holding and grabbing
ok wemby should have two flagrants and like 10 more fouls then he does already.
Wemby literally committed a flagrant 2 and there was no call
Flagrant 1. It was a Flagrant, but not a 2
flagrant 2 lmao
if the spurs win this series knicks fans are going to be absolutely fucking hilarious
We all watched the game Knicks did not lose because of the refs cmon now.
When Harper**** walked onto to the court for a sub when the ball was in play and they didn’t get a tech I knew it was over
It was definitely a situation where one ref agreed and miscommunicated with the other refs. That’s not on Harper or the spurs
I was shocked, because that’s an automatic tech. I read the history of it being a tech and it’s the exact reason, why they started to call it a tech and the reason why you have to go to the scorers table. They used to do line changes and the coaches used to constantly switch players and it was chaos because it would delay the game.
One ref allowed the sub while another ref wasn’t on the same page. That’s why they just sent him back to the bench with no repercussions
i think the refs messed it up which is why they didn’t do a T
I mean they fouled Wemby like 3 times in a minute to start the 4th
Clear fouls too, like simple blow the whistle every time fouls. What are we talking about in this thread lol
Lotta people didn’t watch the game or are Knicks fans. Of course homers will be blind for their team. Some people here are blatantly highlight/box score watching though.
It’s not even about the FTAs. When you’re in or near the penalty at the beginning of the quarter, you’re essentially playing defense in quicksand because everything will lead to free throws.
Knicks definitely did foul on some of the possessions but the refs need to be consistent with the ticky tack foul calls. I think that’s what fans are upset with because it seems like it’s such a ‘physical’ series but it leans towards one side or another. Consistency is the *key* word here and all fans would want to see that - especially with the rise of sports betting and Kalshi commercials every 2 minutes.
It also looked like there was another foul on a layup attempt near the end of the game. Brown couldn’t challenge it because he used them successfully already. This seems ludicrous NBA rule because it’s “I called you out on your bullshit twice. I won’t get another try because I was right”.
Was telling my buddy that NBA challenge rules are completely backwards and need to be like NFL rules. No shot you should lose your ability to challenge a wrong call if you challenge successfully
I think the Spurs got away with some egregious calls/non-calls, like Wemby’s flagrant that should honestly be upgraded by the NBA.
But the Knicks were intentionally fouling down the stretch and that almost entirely accounts for the 10 more free throws that the Spurs shot for the game.
Edit: I guess they only intentionally fouled once. Still, that makes it an 8 FT difference, which really isn’t that crazy. The problem isn’t the FT disparity, it’s the actual missed calls. You have to look at the plays themselves. And I think the worst misses were in the first half, so I don’t agree with Brown’s comments about the 2nd half.
They literally called 3 straight fouls against the Knicks a minute into the 4th
They were all fouls though, got replays of all 3
Those were all fouls though lol. The refs were bad for the Wemby no call, and the random Harper on the court situation. But those calls were legit. If anything, KAT got away with a lot of fouls on Wemby
What? They shot 2 extra FTs at the end, you must’ve been watching a different game
23 fouls called on the Knicks to 21 fouls called on the Spurs.
He’s just trying to set the narrative and get the reffing pendulum to swing back in his favor next game. Just gamesmanship
Not thinking only about this game, but why is it that FTAs are the one stat coaches expect to be somewhat even?
I saw bad and missed calls in both directions, but game 2 was clearly more favourable to the Spurs. The (pretty weak) overturned three pointer was probably the biggest swing call in the game, if the refs were truly biased then the ‘incidental contact’ phrasing could’ve easily been used.
A look at the shot chart shows just how often the Spurs were getting attempts right at the rim, which more often results in FTAs. The overall foul count was Knicks 23, Spurs 21 - so we only care about calls on shot attempts? Even beyond that, the Knicks had a number of and-1s, so his ‘4 fouls for 8’ FTAs isn’t based in reality.
Final point, the Knicks were 12th in foul rate in the regular season, Spurs 27th. Knicks were 25th in FTAs, Spurs 13th. We should expect the Spurs to take more FTAs and foul less, they’ve done it all season.
The lack of nuance when discussing this part of the game always frustrates me.
There is no way a team filled with 22 year olds is playing such superb defense that they are fouling less than fucking veteran players. No fucking way while Wemby gets away with elbowing players and grabbing their throats.
Idk if Brown made things worse with that comment. Last game was a disgusting display of ref ball. It’s a miracle the Knicks won despite it. This game was a bit different. Wasn’t as bad. I do think Mike has a point. Spurs did a good job drawing fouls and getting to the line in the 2nd half. A lot of that was from driving to the paint and getting it to Wemby to do some work. But the Knicks also got fouled on the other end. They got fouled enough for it to be more than 8 free throws attempts.
I think he’s just trying to put pressure on for game 4.
I mean, it’s three games in a row now, unfortunate that he has to do this
The announcers have been saying all series that these games have been very physical from both sides. Either call it for both, or don’t. But a 22-8FT disparity is fishy to say the least.
FTs don’t have to be even. I don’t get why ppl think it needs to be.
But a 22-8FT disparity is fishy to say the least.
The foul count was basically even. Knicks are getting themselves in the bonus.
Kat would be fouled out by the amount of grabbing he did to wemby.
I think I’ve had a moment of rapid maturity at my young age where I have just now realized that NBA referees have the hardest job out of any professional referee. I hate to exaggerate but I really think an amateur referee could have called a foul on practically every single possession of this game.
From my own, relatively unbiased perspective, (though I’m certainly skewing towards the Spurs admittedly) I think the game was pretty fairly called. Wemby gets fouled (based on the rule book) basically every time he gets the ball. It’s impressive that the Knicks were able to limit their number of fouls TBH.
Refs have missed one tech, and two flagrants on Wemby these past two games
They didn’t miss it. They just didnt call it. More $$$
Did he see game 2? He knew what the deal would be
He’s biggest mistake this series has been not going nuclear after game 2
Stop hugging Wemby then. He probably doesn’t want to hug you when he’s about to shoot
Reminder! Refs are fine when we win, they suck when we lose.
They weren’t fine when we won though
Exactly, Knicks would have blown them out if refs hadn’t kept it so close. Lucky Wemby missed the game winner last time
I’m neutral and it’s obvious refs are on Spurs side , game 2 was even worse but people forgot it because Knicks won.
Sometimes its “we win despite the refs, we lost because of the refs.”
Lazy comment when everybody was complaining about the refs when we won last game
We were complaining even when we won
A big reason the Knicks didn’t shoot free throws in the 2nd half was KAT becoming a ghost when he’s your biggest mismatch offensively against SA
and he’s doing what any coach would, you have to defend your team. that’s kind of an egregious differential, especially with how physical the Spurs are. there were a good number of consensus ‘wtf’ calls tonight, so uh, yeah.
knicks had to use a challenge when the ref stood right in front and saw mitch being pushed to wemby for a 3. I just dont get it that they’re penalized for a challenge and a time out as well. it seems like a stupid rule when the officiating is under ridicule all the time
NY missed 10 3s in a row. Like cmon is that the refs fault too?
I’m biased obviously but this sub always complains about OKC getting FTS while being so physical to the other team and that’s simply what’s been happening with the Spurs. They’re so physical and we don’t get no calls, and you touch them and they’re at the line
Haven’t seen this one sided of a free throw stat since ….. never mind
Lol, KAT would be fouled out in 5 mins with the amount grabbing he did.
Wemby landed by Hart on a 3 pointer the exact same way Brunson landed when he got called for a flagrant. Hart’s foot landed on Wemby’s.
No call on Wemby.
Officiating only becomes a problem when you lose. Coaches always complain about the free throw disparity like the officials are supposed to give out an equal amount of free throws each game.