Dazzling-Attorney891 | New York Mets

110 | an hour ago

Ragebait final boss

All_will_be_Juan | Toronto Blue Jays

1 | 27 minutes ago

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Apprehensive_Elk2608

-2 | 17 minutes ago

Im praying after this we’ll see more of this all over the place. Please God let this happen. I want everyone to feel this in their bones.

tbclandot92 | Toronto Blue Jays

58 | an hour ago

The Orioles Jays rivalry is back. Man that one post on the Clement play got heated quickly. I remember the O’day vs Bautista moments.

intecknicolour | Toronto Blue Jays

7 | an hour ago

bautista’s death glare was intense back in the day when someone did something naughty

All_will_be_Juan | Toronto Blue Jays

3 | 25 minutes ago

1 2 3 4 I declare a bird war

Apprehensive_Elk2608

1 | 11 minutes ago

Yep. Hoping for a real clean game next time. Real clean and gentleman like.

see_mohn | regretful mets fan

54 | an hour ago

I’m putting “very gentlemanly thing to do” in my lexicon now

NameShortage | Baltimore Orioles

8 | an hour ago

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Plastic_Bison | Toronto Blue Jays

5 | 40 minutes ago

I think Ernie Clement will laugh at being called “gentlemanly”. 😂

thebestoflimes | Toronto Blue Jays

3 | 23 minutes ago

He is both gentle and manly

RyanTheQ | Baltimore Orioles

1 | 28 minutes ago

Unfortunately it will make a great copypasta

snyckers | San Francisco Giants

-4 | an hour ago

Accompanying Epstein on his plane was actually a very gentlemanly thing to do

steve65283 | Baltimore Orioles

-5 | 37 minutes ago

Its a very gentlemanly thing to do to not put my foot up his ass

Liam0952 | Baltimore Orioles

44 | an hour ago

How long until this gets to r/baseballcirclejerk

Jonjon428 | Florida Marlins

36 | an hour ago

Lol ngl great troll job

ITCM4 | Baltimore Orioles

8 | an hour ago

Hard to be mad when the bait is this top shelf.

Drummers_Beat | Toronto Blue Jays

25 | an hour ago

Umps + r/baseball 🤝 Ragebaiting the O’s

Apprehensive_Elk2608

0 | 10 minutes ago

It’s cool. One day it’ll be reversed and we can be the fuckheads.

ImANewRedditor | Los Angeles Dodgers

22 | an hour ago

That seems like an odd take unless its joke. If he didn’t get out of the way, he would have been out so it was self-preservation.

Forwutrzn7

15 | an hour ago

A division game is huge no doubt BUT I swear I’ve seen fans be less upset over calls in a playoff game. I get being upset but some of the comments from the other posts are insane

hannahmadamhannah | Baltimore Orioles

5 | an hour ago

Yeah it’s silly BUT from our perspective: we finally had some momentum and have been demonstrating the ability to be the team we wanted and hoped to be. We were up 4-1. That double play call would have ended the inning without the run scoring. Shit went downhill fast from there.

Forwutrzn7

1 | an hour ago

I feel that and I appreciate the calm response. Way better than some whispers I got. Meant no harm. Also wish there would’ve been a mount visit so Baz got a chance to catch his breath and so it gave the bullpen some time. Unfortunate all around

All_will_be_Juan | Toronto Blue Jays

0 | 26 minutes ago

Last series we had some momentum then we took a Hoffman to the knee everything works out in the end

ididntwantsalmon19 | Toronto Blue Jays

-1 | 21 minutes ago

That double play call would have ended the inning without the run scoring.

Ya but getting upset because the umps didn’t call it wrong so you would benefit is also silly, no?

mcauthon2 | Toronto Blue Jays

-6 | an hour ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1tzlh04/comment/oqbm9xc/?context=3

yeah, Os fans were swarming, while being wrong and assholes

SubbansBigBlackhawk | Toronto Blue Jays

19 | an hour ago

Let’s not act like we wouldn’t be the EXACT same if this happened to us lmao

SubstantialTwo5506 | Toronto Blue Jays

1 | an hour ago

It’d probably be worse tbh

mcauthon2 | Toronto Blue Jays

-11 | an hour ago

I dunno, Jays fans at least got that Baseball IQ you know?

Edit: for those who don’t know https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/article/mlb-commentator-apologizes-for-questioning-baseball-iq-of-canadian-fans/

RipMcStudly | Baltimore Orioles

13 | an hour ago

If they’d yanked Baz after the play like they should’ve, it might not have mattered.

Iwantthat799 | Baltimore Orioles

-9 | an hour ago

Yeah it’s both a shitty call and also awful that they continued to melt down afterwards. If nothing else there should’ve been a long mound visit to both calm Baz down and let the bullpen get ready in a hurry

kaehvogel | Philadelphia Phillies

8 | an hour ago

It’s not “both”…because it’s not a shitty call. It’s clearly the right call.

-HockeyBagJerky- | Toronto Blue Jays

0 | 14 minutes ago

Just cause you didn’t like the call doesn’t mean it was shitty. There was zero attempt to tag

pabloescobarbecue | Chicago Cubs

7 | an hour ago

When do we get to hear what Ja Rule thinks of this?

seanxfitbjj | Philadelphia Phillies

3 | 35 minutes ago

All the comments make it sound like the orioles want a participation trophy for a tag attempt. It was weak. The runner dodging a tag wasn’t doing anything crazy. Always make sure you get the lead runner and don’t leave it up to the umpires. We’re taught that as children.

dusters | Milwaukee Brewers

1 | an hour ago

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mcauthon2 | Toronto Blue Jays

0 | an hour ago

do umps talk postgame? thought only NBA did

Natural-Sell-9858

4 | an hour ago

at least one umpire (maybe all of them, i dont remember) is required to be available to media postgame, but it is rare for any media members to stick around to talk to the umps.

tblatnik | New York Mets

1 | 26 minutes ago

The call was right but this might be the most-incredible thing I’ve ever read. Holy shit lmao. That’s 99 on the black

BakeFromSttFarm | Baltimore Orioles

1 | 3 minutes ago

I wish this guy great misfortune. That’s as much as I can say because I don’t wanna be banned.

OWSpaceClown | Toronto Blue Jays

-2 | an hour ago

I’ll allow it. *walks away*

DoubleM-1985

-2 | 33 minutes ago

Hunter you’re a man of the ppl 🤣

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Divine_Wind420 | Chicago Cubs

0 | an hour ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/lud62YtUnc

crasstopher | Toronto Blue Jays

1 | an hour ago

this is irrelevant for a few reasons:

the rules for running from home to 1st are different
happ probably shouldn’t have been called out here.

badger2793 | Chicago Cubs

1 | an hour ago

This isn’t even close to analogous

mcauthon2 | Toronto Blue Jays

-1 | an hour ago

but you can see everyone say that its a bad call so is odd to bring up

Permaderps | Baltimore Orioles

-6 | an hour ago

Looks like Hunter Wendelstedt still hasnt recovered from taking a liner off the dome. This isnt even about the play anymore can you imagine what would happen if refs in any other leagues talked like this

sellyme | Australia

3 | an hour ago

can you imagine what would happen if refs in any other leagues talked like this

The same thing that’s happening here: people being too busy laughing at how objectively funny that statement is to bother attempting to seriously discuss it.

120snake | Baltimore Orioles

-11 | an hour ago

If his position is that the base path was established during the fielding, then the runner changed direction twice after establishing his path. Not sure if this is ragebaiting or if he hasn’t seen the replay and wants to back his guy

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-22 | an hour ago

This crew should never ump another game again just an absolute disaster and disgrace to the game and league

ye_old_fartbox | Baltimore Orioles

-23 | an hour ago

Wendelstedt is lucky this all went down because he was also absolutely horrendous behind the plate today. Fuck him.

SubstantialTwo5506 | Toronto Blue Jays

-7 | an hour ago

It’s only game, Why you heff to be mad?

cjackc11 | Baltimore Orioles

-40 | an hour ago

ah so he thinks his crew’s incompetence is funny. Got it

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

23 | an hour ago

I think O’s fans lack of knowledge of the rules is funny…

y0nm4n | Baltimore Orioles

-1 | 34 minutes ago

The vast majority of posters here know the rule but disagree with the umpire’s application of it.

cjackc11 | Baltimore Orioles

-18 | an hour ago

Explain to me in the rule book where there is a definition of a “good enough” tag. I see a tag attempt from Gunnar. Clement is already outside of the baseline, outside of his own base path when he left first. Gunnar’s supposed to chase him?

Surtur1313 | Toronto Blue Jays

14 | an hour ago

Base path is established from the tag attempt. Clement takes a straight path to the base from the moment the tag attempt is made. If you can’t tag the guy, that’s on you.

cjackc11 | Baltimore Orioles

-5 | an hour ago

“Clement takes a straight path to the base from the moment the tag attempt is made”

Except that’s not what happened. Clement takes a hard right turn when Gunnar catches the ball and reaches out, then has to swerve back left in order to get to the base.

Surtur1313 | Toronto Blue Jays

1 | an hour ago

You’re mad about the result. I understand that. But be mad about the result, don’t be mad about the rules existing and this play being perfectly within them 🤷

cjackc11 | Baltimore Orioles

-4 | an hour ago

You’re describing a rule that does not describe what occurred. It’s close, but it’s not what happened. Have a nice day.

JeanValSwan | Baltimore Orioles

-7 | an hour ago

He clearly doesn’t, considering he missed the bag. Not sure how you can go in a straight line to the bag and not end up on the bag

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-18 | an hour ago

yeah next series we’ll just run to the warning track since apparently if you establish out of the baseline rules don’t apply anymore.

Crazy_Baseball3864 | MLB Players Association

14 | an hour ago

You’ve always been allowed to do that as long as you’re out there before a tag is attempted

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-9 | an hour ago

I was just doublechecking hilarious what an awful precedent these clown umps set today Clement clearly did not move until Gunnar fielded the ball and attempted to tag him.

Crazy_Baseball3864 | MLB Players Association

3 | an hour ago

Here is a still from the video showing Clement already veering the moment Gunnar catches the ball

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-3 | an hour ago

Yeah when he is going towards clement to tag him Clement then veers out of the baseline just an absolute clown show and it should be the final game for that crew and they need to be investigated for betting on the game.

specialestk999 | Toronto Blue Jays

8 | an hour ago

Perfectly aloud to do that as long as the fielder isn’t attempting a tag. Os fans out here self reporting their lack of ball knowledge.

cjackc11 | Baltimore Orioles

-5 | an hour ago

Except Gunnar attempts a tag. There is no rule saying that the tag needs to be “good enough”. There was a tag attempt. Lentz fucked up

ididntwantsalmon19 | Toronto Blue Jays

0 | 16 minutes ago

Go watch Varland in the 9th to see what a tag attempt actually is. Clement was already too far away for Gunnar to tag him which is why he did that half-assed attempt.

Be mad at your team choking away a 4 run lead, not the umps for properly applying the rules.

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-8 | an hour ago

Just doublechecking because do you know how fucking insane that would be oh wait it’s literally what Clement did

ClarkeVice | Toronto Blue Jays

14 | an hour ago

I see a tag attempt from Gunnar. Clement is already outside of the baseline.

This right here shows you don’t know the rule.

badger2793 | Chicago Cubs

9 | an hour ago

You can run out of the baseline all you want. Clement didn’t deviate far enough from the established basepath.

ClarkeVice | Toronto Blue Jays

5 | an hour ago

I see a tag attempt from Gunnar. Clement is already outside of the baseline, outside of his own base path when he left first.

This right here once again shows you don’t know the rule.

puns_are_how_eyeroll | Toronto Blue Jays

3 | an hour ago

https://www.umpirebible.com/index.php/rules-base-running/basepath-running-lane

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

1 | an hour ago

There is no definition of a good enough tag. There is, however, a definition of tag attempt. And on no earth can you convince me that he was genuinely trying to make a tag there.

Impressive-Tank9803 | Baltimore Orioles

-6 | an hour ago

the ump literally told Alby that he ruled the tag attempt was not good enough which is not a rule. he told on himself he should be fired right now and investigated for betting on the game.

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

9 | an hour ago

So the umpire said he didn’t make a genuine effort to tag him…and you disagree with that interpretation? You think that was a genuine tag attempt? You think that if he had two outs and only had a play on that runner he wouldn’t have made any more of an effort to tag him?

y0nm4n | Baltimore Orioles

-2 | 29 minutes ago

What would a genuine tag attempt look like in that situation? Does the runner not change direction when Gunnar makes a “holding out the glove in the runner’s direction” motion and two steps towards the runner. Seems like a tag attempt to me.

ye_old_fartbox | Baltimore Orioles

-8 | an hour ago

He ran at Clement and extended his glove with the ball in it. Let’s pretend there was no runner on first. Would Gunnar still have done that?

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

8 | an hour ago

If that’s all your requiring for a tag attempt, you could argue that an attempted double play is a tag attempt because why would you throw to second if there weren’t people on base.

You can’t assume a player’s intent, you can only go based on action, and in no way was that a tag attempt

y0nm4n | Baltimore Orioles

-2 | 28 minutes ago

Alright so how far does the fielder need to run at the player before it’s a tag attempt?

ye_old_fartbox | Baltimore Orioles

-11 | an hour ago

Except you’re ignoring the part where Gunnar ran at the runner and stuck glove his glove towards him. I’m not assuming anybody’s intent, I literally saw Henderson reach his glove towards Clement. That is an attempt.

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

10 | an hour ago

He did not run at the baserunner. Let’s not make up things here. He took, at most, half a step.

ye_old_fartbox | Baltimore Orioles

-9 | an hour ago

So even in your best case scenario, he moved towards the baserunner and extended his glove towards him…what would we call that?

badger2793 | Chicago Cubs

4 | an hour ago

And if you want to call that an attempt, fine. By the time that happened, Clement had already begun moving to the right, so a basepath has now been established. I really don’t think he deviated over 3 feet from that path.

puns_are_how_eyeroll | Toronto Blue Jays

0 | an hour ago

https://www.umpirebible.com/index.php/rules-base-running/basepath-running-lane

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-29 | an hour ago

My wife is from Minnesota, don’t make me start rooting against the Twins. You guys might be even more inept of a sports city than we are

SlicksterRick | Minnesota Twins

13 | an hour ago

If you root against a sports fan because they disagree with a rules interpretation, I’m sorry, but that is the softest thing I’ve ever seen

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-16 | an hour ago

I’m just being salty, my friend. I don’t actually care enough about a random redditors opinion to stop going to twins games lol

BaldPeagle | Texas Rangers

6 | an hour ago

If one rando on the Internet is enough to change your mind, you were going to do it anyway.

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-11 | an hour ago

What?

BaldPeagle | Texas Rangers

3 | an hour ago

I genuinely don’t know what part of that needs to be explained.

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-6 | an hour ago

I mean do you really think it’s that serious that someone would refuse to go to Minnesota Twins games because someone said something they disagree with online?

Or is it more likely I’m just annoyed at the game and talking shit?

It’s not that serious

BaldPeagle | Texas Rangers

3 | an hour ago

Do I think you’re soft enough to follow through on your tantrum is the question that I read, and the answer is yes, I do.

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-2 | an hour ago

I didn’t realize 1 sentence was a tantrum? That seems a bit hyperbolic.

Crazy that you know me well enough to know I’ll swear off ever going to Twins games with my friends again.

I think you know I was just talking shit. I also think we both have better things to do than argue with some rando so hope you have a good rest of your day.

BaldPeagle | Texas Rangers

2 | an hour ago

Oh that’s weird. You can hyperbolize, but nobody else can.

psych-cat | Baltimore Orioles

-10 | an hour ago

The downvotes in here are hilarious. I forgot this was essentially a Blue Jays sub last year/early this year until they started to suck again and r/baseball latched onto another team

badger2793 | Chicago Cubs

7 | an hour ago

Nah, you guys are just wrong

[Kostka] Crew chief Hunter Wendelstedt: “It was actually a very gentlemanly thing to do … getting out of the way to allow the fielder to make the play to first base. It just so happened they tried to spin it to get two. But his base path was already established.”