Oriath and the Beast
I think that’s just a teaser for Act 5. The beast has grown and we’re going to go interact with it. I think we’re going to see it fully grown by the final act and be the boss of the game.
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The flavour text of the area is literally Hinekora’s prophecy of Act 5. In order from Act 1 to Act 6 (Prophecy 7 to 12)
Though prophecy12 being act 6 is speculative.
It is entirely possible it is our own actions that leads the world to doom.
After all, who’s to say the tribes gathering to save it isn’t the Twilight Order while the tribes gathering to doom it isn’t us and our unification of the Ezomytes, Maraketh, Cuachic Vaal and Karui?
“Only a SHADOW can save the BLIND” shadow confirmed 1.0 with blind prophet ascendancy.
Nah, Blind Prophet has to be a Templar ascendancy
I can see it in my minds eye and it’s fucking sick as hell
“Your light radius is zero. Your screen is black. You resurrect after death, and you do 100% more damage.”
Upside: you see 2 eternal gears grinding in the middle of your screen.
I’d league start this
In hardcore league right?
It already was a shadow ascendancy in phrecia so it just follows. And it was one of the sickest from a flavor standpoint. (The first node made you blind the whole time and the rest of the ascendancy turned blindness into several positive buffs)
I honestly hope the Cuachic Vaal are just a plot convenience for the sake of having an Interlude and they get written out of the story when Interludes are replaced by A5/A6, that plotline is so bad lol
Pretty sure that the interlude plotlines are meant to be removed from the campaign but still be canon (although, in which timelines?), with their final zone still present in the endgame.
But I’m curious, what’s so bad in their existence? We already have entire underground cities of vaal descendant, one vault full of them doesn’t change much.
Hear me out, I think the Cuachic Vault is going to be why Oriath is destroyed. The vault is designed and opens like a missile silo, the two Vaal we fight in the interlude are working on a giant Vaal soul infused nuclear missile that you can see standing up right like itโs able to be launched like a warhead. I really want to see that thing launched, and I think if it were launched in an attempt to hit the beast but somehow missed that explosion would be enough to wreck the city AND cause all the deformations where corruption tentacles are growing out of those people in the cut scenes.
This is gonna happen right after they fire the giant goblin cannon in Azshara.
Holy shit that’s sick. I love the way you think.ย
Well apparently the brother and sister were on the precipe of infighting (sister advocating for rulebreaking while brother wants to maintain order). If we hadn’t arrived and don’t arrive via the interludes being gone, they might just wipe themselves off.
Prophesy 12 is probably referring to Sin saving someone, I would assume possibly both the countess and Lumerous. Which, if the beast is subdued/killed with the third edict he would technically save them from a cataclysm if neither die in the remaining acts of the campaign. This could allow for the twilight order to come back as antagonists in leagues or endgame expansions or possibly even as allies to replace the vaal vendors in 1.0.
I think it isn’t our doing, the cataclysm gets referenced by the NPCs in the ruined Kingsmarch, they are way too jolly with us
would be cool if act 5 was an introduction to maps, and utilise the mapping system to complete.
In the belly of the beast again :)
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you ate your girlfriend?
GGG is about to triple-tap you, buddy
GGG said in interviews that this existed and you could find it.
redditors don’t watch the Q&As, they just skim read AI summaries
skim read post titles you mean
If it’s there, GGG wants us to find and share it. Unless it’s about fishing ๐
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I figured we wouldn’t kill the beast because there is a bunch of corruption on the endgame Atlas and at the end of the interludes when we jump forward to the epilogue Sin/Hooded One is in a deep sleep. That is exactly what the Beast did in PoE1 and when you kill it in act 4 the next 6 acts are dealing with all the Gods waking up causing havoc.
You know… I never realized that the belly of the beast could’ve been referring to an ACTUAL beast. I thought it was Malachai’s power turning everything into flesh and bits. Thought they were using an Idiom with the name lolol
nope, it’s all quite literal. Carcass map even.
Completely went over my head hahaha.
Nope, you were food.
We entered it’s Ass didn’t we ? ๐๐ feel so dirty….
We burned it’s asshole open with acid and ran up its guts.
Well if you’ve played shadow he lets out a few unsavory jokes about how we, practically, go inside it’s guts
Act 4 & 9โs town, the mines, and the mountain on which they reside all take place on or in the beast.
“Still Sane Exile” has even more weight. And I thought I was somewhat of a lore dude. I might go and do a 1-10 poe1 and read all the dialogue >=D. RF is an easy build. haha
There is a youtuber who has compiled and made videos of all the lore for the games and leagues. Her name is Kitten Cat Noodle. You can throw on one of her Playlists for the topic of interest while running maps if you want to hear lore.
Now that I think about it, why would they settle a town right on the beast? Are they stupid?
I thought the same especially because of all the experimentation he was doing to unwilling participants and himself. I had no idea this beast was a threat since kitava was the boss
holy fuck you’re right, i didnt expect that this random zone from act 4 and 9 plays a major role in poe2
would be REALLY fucking cool if Malachai turned up and stopped us from killing the beast turning it into whatever it is in poe1
We are after the events of PoE1 though and he is dead. Kingsmarch was built during the PoE1 timeline. We literally helped in building it. Cannot even say that when we came back from act 3 to the present we might have arrived before the PoE1 timeline because Kingsmarch os there.
Right i completely forgot this is after poe1
Its also a different beast - if you look close at the dialogue around the beast in poe2, as t some point I think Sin says something like “after the godslayer slew the first beast” or something
The real plot device here is the Seed of Corruption. That’s the thing referenced in the murals from the first edict, and why they created the weapon, in case the Seed stuff went wrong. We don’t know what the Seed is or exactly why it exists, but Sin makes it clear in poe1 that he creates the first Beast to put the gods to sleep and also give some measure of divinity power to humans (i think via gems, which come from the beast) to give them a chance at making their own destiny instead of just being playthings for the gods. He must have used the Seed to make that first beast.
Ofc it all went wrong and humans used the power to do all sorts of new horrible things. But the beast of poe2 is a new, separate beast being grown from the seed, which presumably Sin took from the corpse of the first beast for safekeeping until Geonor stole it and hung him in that tree
Death isn’t as permanent as you expect in wraeclast. I mean, you kill the depraved trinity 3 times in the original game.
Aqueduct (first zone in a4) becomes blood aqueduct (first zone in a9) for a reason as well
You didn’t read or listen to many NPCs, huh?ย
I listen to Bestel on repeat.
And sleep to Innocence and Sin talking to each other.
True, I thought maybe some of it was placeholder though. Sin being in slumber definitely made it clearer that the Beast was alive though with 0.5’s release.
Yeah, they already had a different placeholder plot for the 0.1 endgame (rebuilding the world after the Vaal cataclysm), and there’s currently a cutscene between the end of the interludes and endgame about it being too late once we arrive in Oriath that presumably isn’t going to be the same as the ending in the final game. So the current endgame plot involving the Hooded One being in a coma definitely isn’t guaranteed to be the 1.0 endgame plot.
But it is also definitely plausible that their plan for the 1.0 endgame plot is one that directly continues the base game’s story, rather than being a separate plot entirely like PoE1’s plot. It’s not out of the question that the ending of the full campaign won’t be us stopping the beast food good but rather it surviving and getting out of control and the ultimate endgame goal will be to stop it.
The endgame seems rather final to me and this implicates that the beast will be out of control indeed. We learned already that the precursors set up the first edict (burn the whole world down) to be able the reset the world if the beast (the fourth edict?) gets out of control. I would bet that the precursors vanishing is basically the first activation of the first edict. We now fight to stop that from happening again after the beast becomes unbeatable in act 5 or sth.
Edit: this would also fit the story of PoE1 where the beast basically became as large as a mountain…and was buried in one aka trapped. Maybe we have a history repeating moment in PoE2 and this is basically our goal - to trap and secure the beast to stop the gods awakening AND the first edict from happening. And we are responsible to clean up the corruption mess that comes with it.
World reset is the fourth edict, the beast is the second. The third is getting rid of the beast.. and then something that could potentially warrant a total reset button, since all the edicts were created as a failsafe to the previous one.
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned or addressed is the Atlas, the ingame object that creates an alternate wraeclast(s). You know, the endgame of PoE1 that all those eldritch entities are interested in? 2’s could easily be that as well
They addressed the cosmic entities in the Ghazzy interview. They didn’t feel like it could be a gothic horror setting if you’ve got cosmic lovecraftian monsters and weird dreamscapes of the atlas lore. So they’re focusing on being grounded in Wraeclast rather than the atlas.
Though you still get hints of that cosmic stuff in Expedition.
We learned already that the precursors set up the first edict (burn the whole world down) to be able the reset the world if the beast (the fourth edict?) gets out of control
I think you have that backwards. The first Edict isn’t “burn the world down,” it’s Divinity, and Doryani (I think) believes that they had originally not intended to create more edicts.
Combine that with what we know from PoE1, that The Beast’s original purpose was to contain the gods, and it seems like it’s the other way around. The first Edict was the creation of Divinity. Then they were willing to destroy the world rather than let the power of the First Edict fall into the wrong hands. Maybe they basically did with the creation of the Beast.
The endgame seems rather final to me
I think a large portion of it is. But I assume that the plot won’t be identical, because presumably something will actually happen in the last two acts besides just the short “we got to Oriath too late and the Beast destroyed the world” cutscene that happens after the interludes right now.
Currently beast is stealing powers of Hooded One. We areย trying to wake up him with Edicts and other ancient technology.
Sin beeing implite to be the Arbiter of Flesh and the Beast is his weapon, it could be that the corruption later comes from Sin and he becomes the next pinacle boss. Act 5 will bring us to Tathros for an army and Act 6 is the Showdown. While the endgame story gets expanded that we use the first Edict to cleanse the mother soul from Sin, which is trying to corrupt it by being crazed by the blood fevor from containing the beast. That would put the corruption out on random spots from the ground.
Or we do kill the beast and that essentially scatters all the gathered corruption over wraeclast.
Even if it doesn’t do that, it left a literal trail of corruption over Wraeclast. So while we were off hunting the weapon, all that corruption from the beast’s journey from Ezomyr to the Desert to Oriath would have just been spreading and growing. Like I don’t think the beast was ever at Arastas but its corruption was already strong enough to cause the blood fever on Ngakanu, so I’m sure elsewhere in Wreaclast was suffering worse effects.
I’m pretty sura Tavakai stealing the 3rd edict is what supercharged the Blood Fever on Ngakanu, although the general increase due to the beast being awake and growing didnt help.
Yah, the end of Act 4 is what made it really bad. But before then, the blood fever had already “been the death of many of our people of late”. It is possible they beast was brought to Arastas or nearby, then moved to Oriath, but either way it seemed to be having a pretty large corrupting presence.
Tavakai is why Ngakanu got infected with corruption though.
Before the end of Act 4, they were already starting to suffer for the Blood Fever. The reason Kaimana wanted the Shark Fin was to try to make a cure. She notes “It has been the death of many of our people of late…” So they were already affected by corruption before the end of Act 4.
Mark said he does not want Ubers to be just a rehash of the same bosses. It would be so cool if the beast was the first uber only boss.
I think how it’s gonna go is that we actually fail in our objectives during the campaign. The second cataclysm appears and the endgame basically becomes an extension of the campaign, with the ultimate goal of getting to Oriath once more and defeating the beast for well and true.
The weird thing is Sin seems to be the only God affected in the post game, which is why I’m leaning towards it being a temporary plot and in 1.0 we kill the beast, but maybe corruption explodes outward due to whatever method we use to slay it.
Tangmazu is definitely still running wild despite the Beast being around.
Gods are affected differently, as Zarka mentioned when speaking of Garukhan as the last god to fall.
There might be many mechanisms we have yet to understand that could make it so Sin sleeps and other gods don’t though, so only time will tell what truly happens ๐
It Tangmazu even a god though? He doesn’t seem to be powered by divinity.
Unless they retconned PoE1 lore he is a God. In the OG PoE1 delirium league he doesn’t start talking to you until after the Beast is killed and attributes himself waking up to you.
With the rework in 0.5, the Corruption is far less of a focus in the endgame. Just a few scattered corruption biomes that aren’t even connected to the main plot. Even the stuff with the Precursors and the Arbiter of Ash seems more related to the Abyssals than Corruption after the rework.
Also, while Sin was put to sleep by the beast, there are multiple other gods involved in the Endgame quests that are still active. So it seems far more likely that some of the early endgame story is just placeholder to bridge the interludes to endgame.
Maybe we kill the beast so hard it explodes and beast goop lands everywhere
vaal nuke theory confirmed
Vaal used to be mysterious and cool.ย Now they are just aztec with an accent
I think playing in early access and learning through breadcrumbs has been amazing. The body piles and the laser cutters have made it Aztec with ancient technology and thats such an incredible concept with the game mechanics
A centuries old captive breeding program set up by a cruel mad scientist isn’t interesting to you??? I thought we got amazing Vaal lore.
But he isn’t mad, he said so himself.
TIL the Aztecs had lasers and time travel.
i hope we crawl into its butthole and fight it from the inside so we get phantasmagoria back
iโm still waiting for a beast interior hideout. I NEED those doorsย
Schlurp.
Everybody loves to schlurp a good sphincter door
If those little squares are buildings then what the Fuuuu…. I mean we did kill it by destroying all of its hearts in poe1 but the beast itself was inside of a literal mountain. I wonder how they’re gonna tackle the scale of this thing in act 6!
The Beast in poe1 was a literal mountain. We went in through the asshole.
As is tradition.
I think we’ll just fight parts of it, like the weird snake eye thing with Atziri or its Kitava-like form, then maybe some kind of avatar of it for the final phase ? Or maybe it’s gonna possess Sin or something
Oooooooor Sin buffs us and it’s just gonna be Titan Lost from FF16
Make it like the end of Control where you get to just go crazy with power
Would be cool if there are community events that are a collective effort to unlock new atlas effects.
Similar to helldivers 2.
Tame it!
what the
Recommend not using Aldur’s Saga as i did. Was an expensive endeavour.
I almost did HAHA I’ve been wasting my currency trying to find secrets in expedition. Can confirm using Aldur’s saga with the other 4 sagas is likely a waste of money ๐ Seems to reduce the amount of possible islands that have grand expeditions but doesn’t give you anything cool in return. Though it’s possible there’s an order in which you have to kill bosses or some other conditions, doubt it though!
I also used all sagas together and got a map with “one rune had 8 runes” so that was cool
Jeah i wasted around 4 aldurs today testing things aswell.. Not using it together with bossees was one of them. There was also another logbook with only 1 rumor (being sulphite), which ithought was nice, but that one had only 5 tiles and 0 grand expeditions…
So as a rule of thumb probably: The more rumors, the more chances for expeditions? (You can circle through the rumors with acticating and deactrivating boss sagas to check how many there are)
And make sure none of the rumors is a boss.
Yeah I’ve learned that less rumours means less tiles ๐ The fallen star rumour is the unique map, and there’s one about reflections which is the Fractured Lake. Then there’s the rumours for the bosses. Origin of the Fall The Last to Faal One about circles, forgot exactly the wording And the Star drinker
In order -> Olroth, Vorana, Medved, Uhtred
Aside from that ๐คทโโ๏ธ
“A good fellow” - Zen Also I got 2x unique moor map from “Fallen star Something fishy Warm but risky”
I bet it will be kind of like the end of act 5 on Poe 1 but you will fight him again in maps and actually beat him then instead of redoing all of the acts again.
In an alternative timeline Alva becomes the sole survivor of our battle with The Beast. She escapes the destruction by using the device called Blood Crucible, made by Doryani tapping into powers of Chaos itself and she warns us about demons of Beyond. I think we could probably meet The Last to Die in PoE2 after 1.0 with addition of reworked said Beyond.
Welp its confirmed.
1.0 is Kaiju league. Everyone to their Jaeger!
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Thank you for sharing it
How and where did you find it? And how did you pay 2 divs to spotlight it?
It consumed a logbook but there’s no island/tiles, all it does it reveal the Beast.
To path to it, you gotta go in a straight line from Kingsmarch past the Verisium crater. I’d say around a dozen logbooks or so.
Then you need to path two three logbooks to the west (bottom left).
It’s not super far and it’s pretty in line with Kingsmarch.
It’s very clear we lose and get the bad ending.
If you’ve paid attention to the lore we are not good guys in PoE.
we do kinda save the world and all its inhabitants from being consumed by eldritch horrors, so thats nice at least
That’s just so they can be consumed by us for XP.
1 monster remaining
The exiles are the good guys in that they’re the ones that actually attempt to save people.
Overall, storywise? Good guys are very subjective, what is good when dealing with the infinite atlas or infinite worlds? If you go into one world and refuse to kill, only to go back to that same world again and again and again and again and again. What is good about the eternal rewinding history.
Pretty sure that’s the whole point of why most of the bosses we fight have gone absolutely insane.
Like the Shaper and Sirus, both trapped in the Atlas for near untold amounts of time and going insane.
To be honest, I wouldn’t put it past GGG to bring the exile you play as in PoE1 as the final boss in PoE2, completely corrupted and insane. A kind of. “You thought you won, but you didn’t.”
I thought it was more asking the lines of “there are no good guys in PoE but we try to suck the least by attempting to fix our mistakes”.
Nope. We are literally exiles from places because of stuff we’ve done.
And a new secret asendency you become pretty much the defactro bad guy.
Depends on the character, the witch is pretty open about being more of a “this world isn’t yours to conquer” vibe.
The “bad ending” is only a thing before Acts 5 and 6. Hard to say how good of an ending it will be, but it is kinda confirmed we don’t fail to stop the beast.
hope the beast doesn’t turn into Sirus or iam screwed
Act 6 is the inside of the beast
Probly should mark this as spoiler assuming you’re basing this on the leaked area names.
Pretty sure it is just temporary, like parts of the current endgame. The beast puts gods to slumber, which is what happened to >!the Hooded One!< in the current endgame. But we know that can’t be the actual ending seeing as 2 of the reworked leagues directly involve Gods. Like Deli couldn’t occur in POE1 until the beast was slain, so for it to still be in POE2’s endgame, the beast has to be stopped in some form in Act 6.
What is the name of character of elon musk on poe2 by his username - Random9#2886 ?
Am I correct in assuming you used a logbook as usual and that island was spotlighted for you?
It’s just that I spent two days and a couple of Logbooks sailing around that entire island and couldn’t find a way to spotlight it…
I mean, why beast should be in one map. I could imagine it grows to the extent of span of areas on the atlas after Act 6. Maybe a everlasting hunt for it will be the theme of end game.
Thx for spoilers kurwo
