The campaign this league was made a bit better and endgame mappong was increased a ton. Im loving the end game now.

I just wish there was literally any sort of tutorial about crafting and corrupting, all the bone items, prefixes, suffixes, the game really doesn’t tell you a lot of stuff you have to go off and google yourself

I am, but then I am invigorated by the end game. Second time, no thank you

A little bit, but they’ve improved the end-game activity presentation a bit. So it helps drive you a bit.

Stay away from the 4th Ascendancy until you are seasoned and strong though; because attempting that too early can easily put the nail in the coffin as far as quitting the league lol.

I don’t really feel burnt out by it to be honest, feels no different to mapping for me.

There’s something about the movement that makes the game less fun than PoE1 to me. I think it’s the delay when you’re changing directions and how it feels like you’re using a steering wheel trying to change directions, it just feels unnatural and clunky

Only in the back third of Act III. Each area is huge so it’s just a bit of a slog. After that the run to the end of campaign is great.

The only thing holding me back of creating at least a couple different builds is the campaign. Just did my 2nd char of the league and this is probably my last. I would love to try a Merc but I can also just do it next league..

I cannot get through campaign.

I start a new character each league, but quit well before endgame. It’s the exact opposite of what I’m looking for in an arpg.

As someone who has limited time to play but wants to enjoy end game. I can’t fucking do the campaign over and over again every new league. It’s just so exhausting. I know it’s how this game works, it’s a me thing. As much as I want to play the new contents the repitition of the story and it’s just such a long journey to truly enjoy.

I get burnt out when I get to maps. Usually tier 11 or so. Every upgrade is just buying from trade because if you were to spend the equivalent currency on mats to actually craft ur self u will end up with a useless item and no currency.

This had been my experience in the past, always burnt out before getting to mapping

This time though I made it and am still motivated, the campaign changes likely helped a ton

I always run out of steam shortly into the endgame and then level up a different character

campaign needs to be nerfed one more time. it only feels good if you’re playing a meta leveling build. if you dont do that, it sucks.

Me and my friends have played since 0.1 and honestly we keep shit talking the campaign cause it’s too much of a slog to go through. We really love the game and we all don’t have all the time in the world to actually play the game. Only thing I personally would like would be so that our alt chara don’t have to go through the same garbage. So many times have I wanted to create a new char after hitting end game, to try out some fun builds, just to get reminded of the campaign.

I’m not saying they should make campaign skips available right out the gate, but why not make it so once you beat the endgame bosses and reach a certain point in the game that we would be allowed to at least get a free pass on one alternate char for the current league. Would be motivating too.

A few parts of Act 2 and basically all of Act 3 are still too long.

There are a couple of other zones spread through the campaign that are also too large imo, but act 2 and 3 are the worst. Which also with the generally slower and weaker passive tree characters are just barely coming online in those acts as well.

I also still can’t ever imagine wanting to do it again in a league.

Yeah I’m the same, finally made it to endgame and I’m exhausted. The campaign has become so mundane after doing it over and over every league with multiple characters.

Pick meta leveling builds to make campaign easy, watch a few videos on how to speedrun. Once you can through it in 8-10 hours it’s far less of chore.

I dread act 3…. Mentally, I haven’t been able to play for a bit.

I can’t put my finger on it why but maps feel so huge and so empty with really convoluted bad layouts
it doesn’t help that rares don’t stand out at all but are the only mobs worth killing for loot

I always quit early because it feels like you must learn to craft to progress in this game, and I really hate how convoluted crafting is.

It’s not that I can’t learn it - I just don’t want to, and I hate gambling mechanics. It always feels like such a bummer more than an upper.

And yeah I could just farm currency or other things, but there is something magical about waiting for a really good gear drop that gives you a nice power bump…and that just doesn’t happen in POE too often.

I’ve never made it to the endgame. I hear it’s great. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’ve been there especially if the build I’m using isn’t the most campaign friendly. The new endgame helps a lot imo, more direction. Id recommend giving it to yellow and if its still not fun just stop, no point forcing fun.

Yes but the new endgame system gave me life again. It’s so addictive and well done. I doubt I’ll make an alt this season tho.

Honestly kinda, I’m pretty burnt out by the campaign by the time I’m done (Honestly think its like 2x too long). So I usually end up quitting for the night after I’m done and then doing maps the next day.

Maps have been semi burning me out too, they are fun and I like the new tree etc don’t get me wrong, but it feels wayyy more grindy to unlock all the points by killing the boss 4x, then having to do a bunch of random filler maps just to get to each master zone and do all those, etc

I find myself just spamming garbage tier white maps in over and over instead of t15s just to travel around to the places I actually want to go to which kinda feels anti fun

only if I’m playing a build I don’t really like I end up burned out before endgame

Already kinda burn out after finishing western enigma chamber, then I realised I have to do the same on the other side of map to get fragment to continue the atlas quest, then there’s also every other league mechanic quest to do

I’m also burn out from doing all the map that rewards nothing but a few exalted, some money from selling useless rare, some tier 5 blue item that identified as “reduce attribute requirement” or light radius or accuracy, boot with no movespeed, then also not seeing any progress other than 1 atlas point that maybe increase pack size by 3% which is basically unnoticeable

Maybe cut down the number of travel map would make end game experience better

Yes, quit a few characters in act 3 it’s so long and boring.

As someone who played POE2 for like 2 hours when it launched and hasn’t played since I was about to come and ask about this sort of thing.

So is the campaign still a big old slog? I want to be able to alternate between the two games but POE2’s pace felt so bad for me. POE1 is my most played game of all time. I’d hate to not be able to play 2 but the pace of the campaign being that slow might kill it for me as something I can repeatedly return to.

Not really, but as an older gamer I do the campaign in chunks anyways so it’s not as draining. I’ve only just now hit endgame and does like my first dozen maps.

The campaign is just too long. I think the main problem is the maps are just entirely too big still. The waypoints added help but the maps/regions in act 3 onward could be cut in half and would still feel fine.

Wondering what’s causing the burnout? Spike in difficulty or monotony? I feel invigorated because this is now when my character actually feels “good”

More details: Personally for me going into mapping feels finally starting the second part of the game. I play trade softcore, so first order of business is to spend ~10-15 exalts to upgrade my shittier gears and instantly I feel a lot more powerful in T1 and slowly work up from there - the density/intensity of mapping and me being able to clear through it makes me very motivated past campaign

Not at all. I really enjoy the campaign and power progression. Act 4 + Interludes made a huge difference, and with this patch helping point the way and having sprint? Naw I’m having a blast. What I’m not enjoying is the Atlas.

Yeah I kinda quit playing too

Not really? The whole reason I’m doing the campaign it’s to get to the endgame, usually I’m excited to finally be there.

No

I don’t think it’s even a build yet until I hit level 90ish lol

Yep. It currently takes way too long as someone who hasn’t extensively practiced

Definitely

I feel like that every other time i play poe 2. I truly believe its because i havent found the skill that tickles my taint quite yet. But i for sure know this game has the sauce and will be great eventually.

I can’t even get past act 2. Im sick of the caravan

Since mapping is just now another campaign, I’m tired the whole time. Not sure this campaign after the campaign is hitting for me

Not really. I take my sweet time with the campaign so that I am not burned out by the end of it and the endgame is still fresh.

The problem for me that I’m used to getting to the late-endgame, non-checklist part of the game by like 20 hours, in PoE2 I’m like 40 hours in and I haven’t even finished all the quests yet. The campaign took me more than 15 hours I think, and the only genuinely good part about it was Act 4. The bosses are all very cool and the pacing is great. Maybe the only criticism is that the Prison and the Karui city at the end are way too long still.

Act 1 would be nice and all but I’m so weak at the beginning of the game that I just can’t enjoy it. During Act 2 I’m stronger but the zones are bigger as well so they take longer, not to mention the huge spike in difficulty at Jamanra. Act 3 is just awful, shitty zones, long quest lines, usually that takes me the longest, like 3-4 hours. The interludes are fine except for the last zone of the first and the entire second one.

Same with the endgame. I love the actual new content, it’s great that we got awesome bosses and cinematics, but the travelling time to get from the start to the quests is almost as much as actually doing the quest.

Nope not burnt out at all in fact I am level 91 and feel like I have just barely done the end game.

There is so much to do it may overwhelm some people, but I feel like I am going to be around for a while just doing the end game stuff for the different activities.

Also I love my grenade throwing titan.

I have a friend with whom we always play PoE on league starts. PoE1 we both blast through the campaign and enjoy endgame for months (he just completed ³⁶⁄₄₀). PoE2 he hasn’t reached endgame ONCE.

He always starts out, gets stuck somewhere in act 3-4 and just quits. Not because he keeps dying, because those acts are specifically designed to be tedious, annoying and unpleasant. Act 3 alone with its ass-backwarts town is half the reason. Who thought it was a good idea for your portal to put you into the time-traveled version, THEN have to run back through the portal to the vendors, THEN have to run back.

This is about as much “friction” as eggshells in your omelette.

Yep. Campaign in POE 1 is fine, its a bit boring sometimes but fine. Campaign in POE 2 feels like its more draining and tiring, too hard. Its way harder than endgame, seriously wtf?

Join the Skip Campaign Option petition thingy going around. It’ll happen.

What really helped me was taking a looooong time off. I played .1, .2, and then I gave up. I hit a wall and it wasn’t fun. Played other stuff and with this release I got back into it and I’m having a really good time. Same goes for my friend group. We all know we’ll probably bail again around August if I were to guess, quit cold turkey, and then go back for 1.0 all refreshed. Only one of us is a hardcore PoE and PoE 2 player. He never misses an update. He spends much time buying and trading and crafting in PoE 1 and has played it for so long that, per his thinking, he’s a recognizable name in the community. I have no idea if that’s true or not, but it wouldn’t be his first exaggeration.

Not at all. By campaign end of about 10 hours my build is blossoming and now I want to really evolve it and push into harder and funner content

Some areas could be better for sure but I genuinely enjoy the campaign, especially the first playthrough where I have to care about my resources more

No, on the contrary, when I reach maps, my build is coming online and I am starting to get currency.

Why are you in a rush again? The game will take you months to complete anyway.

It felt like a lot of the zones could just be 10-20% shorter and you wouldn’t lose anything.

Also Act 3 waypoint so far out of the way is just plain annoying.

Think your campaign build just isnt strong enough.

Each campaign map to clear is just like clearing a end game map. The difference is the speed and ease you breeze though end game maps once your build is online.

The game is prob not for you then.

I’m feeling the same way. I finished the campaign and did a few maps and my motivation to play plummeted. The campaign is too long and exhausting.

this happens to me and I seemed to figure out what helps. I usually play through the campaign ssf and have alot of fun but towards the end of interlude 3 im usually pretty burnt out too. I finished campaign 5 days ago and only ran about 8 maps in the first 2 days after.. Then I said screw it im going to spend this currency on meaningful upgrades. Spirit, res, life, big defense bases, some cool uniques, and the biggest weapon upgrade you can afford. Then youll be blasting and finding so much loot its hard not to get sucked back in. I think the tedium comes from being slower than you want to be. 

Yes. Mostly because this game QoL, or lack thereof.

Abysmal inventory management, tragic respect, poor UI and lack of basic information. Necessity to always start the campaign from the scratch, if I want to make an alt.

This game desig is 20 years old. Some of those are directly taken from Diablo 2…

Love the combat system, but actual playing is so cumbersome and tiring…

The only reason to burnout is not enjoying the skill or gameplay. If you enjoy the skill / gameplay you enjoy the mapping more than the campaign

tbh yes, I still stand by the opinion that maps are unnecessarily big still, in general.

And act 3 maps are the worst in that regard

No way. I do like making second characters usually. But this time there’s SOOOOO MUCH fucking endgame is never ending. I still have to finish main atlas tree, ¹⁄₅ endgame quest lines (delirium), haven’t done any expedition.

Then I need to up my gear survivability so that I can do all the pinnacles.

I have another 30 hours easily. (I’m at 55 hours)

What motivates you? I’m in it to see all the new content and finish the challenges. The campaign is just the first few hours towards that.

Yes always in fact i never really learn or bother to learn the end game on poe or poe2 because by the time i get there i either want a new toon or i am just burnt on the game

Not a fan of the campaign layouts at all. No clue how we went from PoE1 to whatever this is. It has to be to pass more time right?

Yes somehow doing quest bore me so much I just reached act 3, really wish we didn’t have to do the campaign every time.

Doing campaign feel like a chore/job and the fun is after but I’m already burned out by then

You play a few hours a week and burnt out from that? Sounds like you don’t actually like the game but you “want” to like it.

Nope, took me 19~20 hours played time including afk time to finish the campaign

Now I’m levels 91 blasting end game killed new arbiter 5 times so fully unlocked atlas Finished abyss atlas, almost done with breach and ritual atlas then I will start working on delirium and temple Yet to touch expedition I will probably leave it for a 2nd character with whatever new build peaks my interests There is also the masters I need to start unlocking more of their modifiers

There is so much to discover and finish in the end game the campaign was nothing but a small stepping stone which was better than previous leagues due to the changes they made here and there

Still needs improvement but it’s no way burning me out on first character

Maybe if I go more than 3 characters I will start to feel campaign burn it but by that time I will have probably finished everything new in end game within my first two characters

I was pretty burnt out, but the endgame has been a lot more fun. I think I’ll probably play through the majority of this league, with breaks here and there. The benefits of a six month league 🤷

If you get Burned by the campaign probably Poe is not a Game for you. Poe is enjoysble if you can put Many hours into it. It’s the nature of the game And should not change

Yes. By the time I finished act 4. I just wanted it to end, the interludes were a huge slog to me. But man was it worth it the endgame is really, really good now and I am hooked.

I just finished my second character through the campaign, I’m finding it much more tolerable now.

Can definitely see it. The campaign is extremely boring and there needs to be some way for players who want to play the rest of the game to bypass running the campaign on every character.

I like leveling with one build and then respec to an endgame build when I get to level 84 or so. Otherwise I get tired doing the same skill rota

I used to. This is the first time I am actually mapping and progressing. In the past leagues the moment I reached maps I maybe competed 10-15 and dipped out.

A crucial difference this time around is that I liked my build more, compared to previous builds where I kinda didn’t feel it but pushed nevertheless on the hopes it was gonna click when I would add more skills to the mix.

But also this time there are more things to do.

That being said, in Poe 1 I am taking my sweet time in the campaign and still reach maps in 9 hours. In Poe 2 I reached maps in around 22. Spending more time in the campaign plays a part as well.

I’ve never finished the campaign, got to act 3 again and another toon through act 1. I think I’ll make it this league enjoying my plant druid a lot now that I found a wand for them.

Make sure you are using sprint (space bar+hold) to run through areas if you just wanna get there.

I get how you feel. After act 4 I decided to play a new class

If you get burnt out, the build you made probably wasn’t fun

Not at all. Campaign is like 10 hours maximum, end game is about 300 hours minimum

not not at all

You could just play standard and mix in the leveling in the new league.

Not really. I really enjoy seeing my character/build improve over time. Tbh I quite enjoy the acts lol, and generally burn out when I get to red maps or bossing.

Once the atlas is fully unlocked and you get to see the vision it’s truly what the game should’ve been the entire time. It’s definitely a lot of tedium but it’s like that South Park meme “now we play the game” and it’s 100% worth it.

I just wish I can do it without clicking on all the WoW quests.

Just let me blast and go to next zone and blast.

One thing I really liked about D2 was how every act they just tell you to fuck off outta town and figure it out.

Used to but got better/knowledgable and played op leveling builds I could easily transition into endgame and approached campaign like an any% speedrun. So have good build, keep moving, and know what to do next.

The grind is real this league. Gonna be a long one so you have time to cool off and not play a while. Could also be your build if maps are taking a while, dulls the ache to do more content if progress is slow

Did campaign 3 times because I can never stick to a build.

Settling on supporting fire tactician hopefully, feels real good.

So im a Lil burnt out on campaign, definitely not maps yet, but ive only progressed a little bit into the atlas so far

I feel this, but mostly because I like being a hideout warrior and crafting mostly and that is made prohibitively difficult with how expensive gold costs are now. Plus they have also just made crafting far worse. So it feels like I hit way more of a progression wall now.