Yesterday, every dodgers fielder wore a rainbow dodgers hat to celebrate their pride night… Except for Blake Treinen
Blake Treinen is entitled to his opinion. But he can’t really complain if others judge him for it.
Yup, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from people calling you a twat for your speech.
Most ‘free speech absolutists’ seem to have a real problem with that fact.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. All it means is that the government can’t arrest you for saying (almost) anything. Even though they do all the time and just dress it up as something else.
[N]o practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.
—Terry Pratchett, Going Postal
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Anyone that calls themselves “free speech absolutists”… I know they’re full of shit
“Free Speech Absolutists” are always lying about much they value the first and third words.
No, no, no. *I* get to be a bigot and prejudiced against others as is my God-given right, and *you* have to be ok with that!
/s
Calling him a twat is really underselling it
This dude is just a fucking asshole idiot digging in his heels on being a contrarian for the sake of it. Treinen is an anti-vax, election conspiracist, homophobe.
Because they don’t know what free speech actually means. They think they should be allowed to just say any and all hateful things without anyone calling it out.
I always understood it as freedom to criticize government and not get in trouble over it.
Like you can say this president sucks and they can’t arrest you for it. This is something that can get you killed in a dictatorship.
It does not mean you can say just whatever without consequences.
Not to bring semantics into this but he’s allowed to complain about being judged too. And we’re allowed to judge him for complaining about being judged and he’s allowed to complain about………..
You are right, of course :). Perhaps a better way of saying it is that he can certainly complain, but such complaints lack credibility.
Oh no, I’ve gone cross-eyed.
I think I’m seeing double…..4 Krustys?
Have you ever noticed that people of his ilk are the biggest complainers, I’m sure he will complain about it.
I can’t wait for someone to eventually roll up to this thread and say that people talking shit about BlaQ should shut up because “the first amendment,” because that is an example of their level of understanding.
Yup. The First Amendment does not protect against others judging your character by what you say or do.
Freedom of speech is when the government doesn’t allow other people to call me an idiot for the things I do or say
He’s actually been pretty quiet ever since he deactivated his instagram. He’s not vocal about anything really these days
Yet… the post wasn’t made by someone of his ilk… it’s actually the opposite
It does seem like there’s a correlation, yes :)
But, what exactly is his opinion? Gay people shouldn’t have rights? Gay people should be converted? Gay people shouldn’t benefit from my tax dollars?
I feel like if your opinion is intolerance then it’s not really an opinion, it’s just hate. You can dress it up with religion or beliefs, but it is still hate. In a society that values freedom and liberty, ignorant hate is a cancer and does not belong. I think we are too tolerant towards the intolerant.
But whatever, he got to exercise his lovely freedom of hate by not showing solidarity with a major portion of his community.
Being entitled to an opinion is one thing. But people like Blake base their reality on opinions and never facts. The idea that someone sexuality or gender makes them less human than you is just fundamentally flawed. Allowing those ideas to fester because they are “opinions” is how American got into this present timeline.
Where his views come from is irrelevant to me. He has expressed them, and I have drawn conclusions regarding his character on that basis. Better that he should speak out so we all know who and what he is than stay silent.
He’s free to not wear it.
And I’m free to think he’s a pile of shit for doing so.
He is entitled to his opinion on that issue, just as everyone else are entitled to their own opinions about Blake Treinen.
Keep in mind this is the same dude that wore a Charlie Kirk hat lmao
Alex call also did not wear a pride hat
Alex Call looks like the villain in a 1980s comedy ski movie
+ Harrison Bader + Drew Gilbert. If I saw them together I’d expect them to skid to a stop and spray snow in my face, then pants someone
Ah dang
Shocking to hear his AI Jesus is against LGBTQ+ and isn’t actually preaching the teachings of real Jesus
Such a fuckin duechebag
Too soft. BlaQ is a piece of shit. He’s a bad person.
BlaQ Treinen, famously a piece of shit.
Yeah he is. Even Kershaw used an excuse about the rainbow belonging to god or some dumb shit. Sorry I’m not fully updated on weird Christian interpretations of the bible
Let’s be real, kershaw was a massive piece of shit for that. He doesn’t get excused because he’s a legend
Kershaw is a giant piece of shit too. They’re the same guy. Kershaw just has better PR.
I mean he’s also a legit all-time great whose accomplishments on the field are acknowledged by even the most inveterate Dodgers haters, whereas Blake Treinen is Blake Treinen
He’s a scumbag who had a 13-11 record and 4.62 ERA in the playoffs.
Yeah I have no idea why we’ve absolved playoff Kershaw. Man was the biggest choker I’ve ever seen. I remember him looking dumbfounded in the dugout when the Cardinals blew him up. Winning late career rings on the coattails of Ohtani doesn’t mean you’re not an all time playoff choker.
Because most Dodgers fans on Reddit probably weren’t around before Ohtani.
The rainbow thing is a standard homophobic talking point: “gays can’t have the rainbow, rainbows belong to us.” Kershaw is a proud bigot, same as Treinan at least when it comes to LGBTQ people.
Counting or not counting unearned runs?
Hey at least he is consistent
He carries the flame
He’ll see him in Valhalla
Always makes me crack up when I see that. He didn’t die with a weapon in hand nor was it glorious, valiant, or in battle. That dude is going to Hel.
If Odin is letting Cash Money or Charlie into Valhalla then I’m pretty sure I don’t want to be anywhere near that afterlife.
Homie needs to move out of California.
Nah he just needs to move to Huntington beach
lol people are always so surprised when they realize how many pockets of California are hella conservative
He’d fit right in with the Rangers
People forget the Rangers farm system was caught sexually assaulting teammates
That’s just country boys [and girls] getting down on the farm, according to Tug McGraw’s son.
Off handedly learning that Tug McGraw’s son, who was unknown to him for the first 10-15 years of his life, is Tim McGraw was a wild twist in a book I read about about the Phillies last year. Just like a paragraph that ends like a movie, “and then after being accepted by his father, Tim changed his last name to McGraw and the restvis history.”
From what Tim has said in the past, it sounds like Tug was aware of him, but didn’t acknowledge Tim as his kid until Tim was around 18.
Brutally sexually assaulting teammates.
Wait, what?
That’s just “good ol boy locker room stuff” down there in Texas
Pretty sure it was international prospects at the Dominican complex. It was actually Rougned Odor’s brother who is also named Rougned Odor.
I am a Rangers fan and this doesn’t absolve or act as a defense for anything with the franchise. But I’m also a Texan and this absolutely does.
Ew what
Alex Call didn’t either
Alex Call describes himself as “serving the creator, my savior, Jesus” on his Instagram, so you know he wasn’t wearing one.
No hate like Christian love.
Love thy neighbour, except if they are different from you in any way
…even though Jesus fucking explicitly says to.
Jesus said a lot of things that his current “followers” really take exception to.
They would have shot Jesus dead in the street for trying to protect an immigrant from ICE.
“Jesus is my Lord and Savior, but man did he have some awful opinions.”
He was basically a dark-skinned socialist. They’d absolutely hate the guy, if he was around today.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -Mark 10:25 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living. -Mark 12:42-44 If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. -Matthew 19:21
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -Mark 10:25
And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living. -Mark 12:42-44
If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. -Matthew 19:21
For a more general context:
During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. -The State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin
I pulled an Alex Call autographed baseball card, and he’d written a Bible verse below his signature. I kinda figured he wouldn’t be wearing one either.
What verse? I always find the verses athletes choose interesting
Matthew 5:16
“In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.”
I don’t know how “I won’t wear the same hat all my teammates are to provide literally one iota of support to a historically oppressed group” is letting others see his good deeds, but I also haven’t been to church outside of weddings and funerals in decades
Not to get overly political or religious in a baseball sub but, realistically speaking the people that are IG Christians typically are the most close minded, uncharitable, and tolerant people you’ll meet. They think thag being that way virtue signals their Christ-likeness…. when really JC would’ve probably condemned them for it
Matthew 6:2
“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.”
Exceptionally ironic considering the theme is to glorify God through good works. Wonder when the last time bro did anything good for any reason besides helping himself.
In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see you jack some sick taters, I mean just absolute piss missiles dude hell yeah
Which is strange considering Christ calls us to love all.
You’re thinking of old school Christ. Supply side Jesus encourages you to hate anyone woke, which is defined as anyone who isn’t a white Christian male
They don’t care about that part of the Bible, they only like the bigotry part.
Ah, yes, Jesus, that dude who notoriously slammed the rich and didn’t say a single thing about homosexuality.
Damn, didn’t know Call was like that too. Fuck that fool.
His walkup song confirmed it for me lol
I love that even though Pages has a cross on his undershirt and Spanish Christian music as his walk up song, he still wore the hat.
Because being Christian doesn’t mean being a bigot. We just happen to have some bigots who identify as Christian on the team.
Tommy Edman is also very religious. He said he listens to Christian worship music before games to get ready.
I don’t give a shit about anyone’s religion, that doesn’t automatically make them a bigot. Obviously, there are a lot of those types that use the Bible to justify their shitty views, but I’ve known plenty of Christians that weren’t like that.
My dad’s Christian beliefs mean a lot to him, but he’s very progressive politically and has always supported the LGBTQ+ community. I’m not religious in the slightest, but if you actually read what Jesus says in the Bible you can’t really justify what most American Christians believe.
Anyone have the link to his weird ass AI generated post about jesus on twitter?
Can someone not wear the military appreciation uniform if they choose? Honestly curious.
Yeah, kind of wondering the same. Isn’t this a uniform rules violation?
That’s where my brain went - if the team, their employer, requires a particular hat for a game as part of your official uniform, doesn’t your contract or code of conduct with the organization cover that? If you play for the Dodgers, I don’t imagine you can wear a hockey jersey one night just because you feel like it, right? How is this any different?
Aside from the fact that this just shows blatant bigotry and teensy tiny brain syndrome.
AFAIK in the NHL the pride ones are optional to protect a persons private beliefs but the military ones aren’t.
Figure that one.
Edit: guy responding to me got it right I think
No the NHL were far more spineless than that. They used wear the special Jerseys in warmups then auction them off. A few players didn’t want to wear them and also didn’t want the special attention from not wearing them so the NHL just banned special jerseys all together.
Amazing display of cowardice lol
If you don’t want to support a team night thing you should not have to, full stop.
If they have One Piece night and you prefer Sailor Moon, live your fuckin truth bro. I don’t want anybody having to rep something they disagree with.
If I were an MLB player and got traded to the Mets, I would refuse to wear Mets stuff while playing, because I disagree with Mets existing
Frankly the odds of an MLB player being woke enough to recognize the blatant propaganda that that is is close to 0. The only time I remember any player voicing any opposition to US military stuff was Carlos Delgado who refused to stand for God Bless America in 2004 over the Iraq War
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/baseball-player-carlos-delgados-summer-of-disconte
I would hope so. I think both that and BlaQ’s choice should be allowed.
The nice part about him being entitled to his opinion is that we’re entitled to ours about him
This got removed last night and will get removed today.
If the guy is a known POS, is anyone surprised?
Yup. Not sure what the mods’ agenda is on that one.
gotta keep up their relationship with MLBOfficial
Least surprising thing ever
in our sub, we’re saying it if it was Jackie Robinson day in the 1960s, he wouldn’t wear the 42 jersey.
Same people applauding him would have an absolute meltdown if someone refused to wear those corny military hats
100%. And given how many MLB players aren’t American, I’d bet there are a ton of them that would prefer not to wear that stuff given the choice.
Probably a lot of Venezuelan players specifically, at the current moment.
It was really noticeable that MLB eschewed the camo bullshit for Memorial Day this year. Wearing the poppy was a vastly more appropriate uniform addition.
I saw some camo hats. But yes, the poppy is a much better symbol of solemn remembrance. America gets very macho around war and seems to forget thay war is mostly about death.
Clayton Kershaw is clapping in his grave
Once again, Clayton Kershaw is very much alive.
That’s why we’re doing this, to honor his memory…
Unlike Wade Boggs.
This is known. BlaQ.
Same for Patrick Qorbin
Fuck BlaQ
None of this is surprising. He’s always been a Trump supporting Christian supremacist. He met his wife on Christian mingle. He doesn’t have social media, but his wife was wearing a Charlie Kirk “freedom” shirt in her profile picture at one point. I’m sure he’s got a church full of people validating him doing this.
He actually used to be on IG and posted constant election conspiracy theories and advertised the MyPillow dork in his bio.
My Pillow dork is getting absolutely bullied in the primary btw. Even Republicans are done with him
The biggest revelation from that, to me, is the Christian Mingle thing.
My assumption is that they matched because they were the only 2 people on that app
What exactly did Charlie Kirk accomplish that made him so famous? I didn’t even know who he was until he was killed.
He spoke up for bigots who don’t have a platform.
Debated college kids with bad faith arguments. That’s basically it and nut jobs want to immortalize him as if he were MLK
Why should he wear some stupid rainbow hat if he doesn’t agree with it?
This isn’t some dictatorship.
Nobody is saying he has to. They are pointing out that he didn’t.
Multiple people are saying he should be forced to wear it though. I think forcing someone would be a bad idea and would just build resentment.
Fork found in kitchen.
This sub seething over someone having different beliefs than them
Yeah, crazy he is viewed as a POS for not wearing a pride hat lol, all the while people are attacking him for his religious beliefs.
So many soft ass people offended over something that is pretty insignificant.
This sub banned twitter and in doing so reduced quality of content over night just to be performative.
Are you surprised?
99% of people plain out don’t care. That 1% who do care? They in the comments
Classic BlaQe
Blakkke
Wait do we have to automatically dislike him because he didn’t want to wear a pride hat? Please tell me theres much more to this cause if not what are we really doing with our lives?.
There’s a problem in your life if this genuinely upsets you
You all wouldn’t care if this was something like Jewish history month and a guy refused to wear the Star of David on his hat. You’d be cheering it on. Bro is entitled to his opinion. Not hurting anybody by not putting something on his hat
“why won’t you wear the ribbon” -this sub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuafhcg843c
Guy fucking sucks
Hilarious how things have gone from ‘we just want to be accepted and live our lives’ to ‘this guy won’t wear our symbol. He’s a terrible person’
‘this guy won’t wear our symbol. He’s a terrible person’
This particular guy has pushed conspiracy theories on social media and claimed the Dodgers inviting a LGBT charitable group to Pride Night was an attack on Christianity. This is about his history, not one hat on one occasion.
And that it’s called hate to choose to not wear it. Wild.
Yup, shit is ridiculous.
Oh no roast him reddit I’m sure he cares
Honestly, wear whatever you want . Just get the damn save.
Neither did Call
This is probably the one part of this Reddit I dislike is all the “Thought crime”. I support our LGBTQ brothers and sisters, but there seems to be this hate for anyone that is ok with their existence, just doesn’t support them. Like not only does someone have to be ok with the LGBTQ community, but they also need to love them as well. Just so weird to me.
Blake comes off like a good guy who has a Christian world view. Blake even said he is more than willing to play with or alongside people who believe differently than him.
Would I want to be Blakes friend, probably not. Do I like him as a dodger fan, and I hope he pitches well, absolutely.
So? It’s a free country and it’s his right to wear it or not. I have opposite beliefs as him but it’s not a big deal. Can’t force people to conform to your beliefs
OH NO! Anyways…
Ahh, the annual ‘Blate Treinen is a piece of shit’ post.
Charity Walk Lady: “You HAVE to wear the ribbon!”
Kramer: “See, that’s why I don’t want to.”
It should be the players decision no doubt. But you’re gonna be judged one way or another. Regardless your beliefs and opinions
Who cares. Play ball.
shout out blake
THE ABSOLUTE HORROR!!!!!!!
I don’t believe employees should be forced to make a statement while at work. Especially circumstances that makes opting out a massive statement.
The whole thing is bizarre. “If you don’t wear this hat people will think you’re a hateful bigot.” It’s no longer a show of support at this point. It’s a show of compliance.
Good for him.
oh noo a millionaire didn’t wear a certain color hat
Surprise Reddit can’t handle someone not joining the hive mind
Q me shocked
Who cares
With Kershaw gone one of them has to do it
Who fucking cares
A nonconformity movement lashing out at people for nonconformity, fucking priceless
I can guarantee you this guy doesn’t care what you think of him
Who? Who doesn’t want to wear the ribbon!?
Sorry, couldn’t find the gif…
This dude is such a prick. Least likable Dodger and it’s not even close.
Good for Blake Treinan. Fight the good fight, believe in your morals. Don’t bend the knee to something you don’t believe in.
Yup
Wow, imagine being so intolerant that someone refusing to wear a hat sends you into a rage…
this shit happens every year with the players – fans throw up a big stink but come july no one cares anymore
And? He’s not obligated to
Is it bad this is probably tame for him? I was fully expecting some bible verse like Kershaw had last year.
Calling him intolerant. While all the tolerant people in this comment section slam him
baseball players are the most conservative athletes along with hockey players. not surprising.
I’m sick of these snowflakes who aren’t man enough to put their feelings aside and do the same thing as the rest of their team.
When I was a kid, if I refused to wear my uniform, coach wouldn’ta put me in; I woulda been running laps out on the back 40 and walking home. Sick of these dang kids and their “look at me” performative protests.
Freedom of speech and opinion man
Exactly!! He is rightfully exsersising his freedom of speech and people are rightfully using their freedom of speech to call him a little bitch
Who cares…?
Ohhh nooo…the HORROR!!!!
Lol. It’s a hat. Calm down
Doesn’t wear rainbow. Tolerant left intolerant. News at 11.
A man with a backbone
“I’m gonna insult this guy because he thinks differently than me. Even though he’s not actually hurting anyone with his decision to not wear a rainbow on his uniform.”
And??
I grew up going to Christian private schools. It was so hard to wrap my mind around the fact that fellow Christians took a man whose hit singles included “Love thy Neighbor”, “Do Unto Others”, and “Unconditional Love” and use him to justify the opposite.
I acknowledge that maybe I’m ignorant or oversimplifying. Hope everyone has a lovely day. Knicks in 4
I don’t care. He doesn’t have to.
