The Knicks just shot their first free throws of the half with 2:37 left in the fourth quarter
Do you think the reffing in game two has been even? Interested to hear what other people have to say. It’s been pretty physical…
And they had to challenge that to get those free throws…
Absolute masterclass by Tony Brothers. And they get compensated by losing their challenge.
I don’t want the Spurs to win like this.
You know it was bad when spurs fans can see it blatantly lol
NBA really wanted this to be 1-1
And they almost got there, i almost died watching that 4th quarter comeback
We’re on the same page then
The league played themselves not saving The Extender for game 2
respect a fan able to accept how insane brothers was tonight lol
It would take an idiot to not see it lol. In spite of all that they lost. NBA wants it to go to 7
Neutral fan here and would be happy to see either team win, but yeah, this one was obviously one sided very early on lol
Without refball how do you think it would have ended? Knicks win by 12?
I don’t want the Spurs to win like this
If it wasn’t for the OKC hatewagon dominating discourse, the fact that the Spurs gaming refs goes as far back as the 2000s, would be more prominent.
Spurs have won a lot like this.
Manu, Parker, Horry and Bowen probably get their tapes studied to see how to sell flops.
How did I get to be such a hater? Why I’m glad you asked.
TimDuncanHasNeverCommittedAFoul.Gif
Spurs fans chanting “flopper” at SGA last series while they stand under Manu’s retired jersey is funny to me.
Yep cant forget spurs are some of the og floppers and dirtiest teams ever lol. Not to mention 07 was an nba masterclass in ensuring suns dont win
But I didn’t want them to lose like THAT
The basketball gods balanced it out
I really give credit to spurs fans. Everyone one I’ve seen has called out the officiating. A lot of fan bases would pretend it was even.
How they let them ref together at this point is fucking insane.
Neutral fan, they’re letting spurs get away with a lot of contact. Feel like the NBA made the call. Need a long series.
The spurs on defense can grab, hold, hand check, tickle your balls and get away with it
Literally just pushing Brunson as he dribbles up the court.
JB is too composed to complain. Even made fox look like a fool when he got up into his face
Should have been a Tech.
Only if you’re Mitchell Robinson pushing back Wemby-initiated contact!
There has never been a greater example of when refs just need to say knock it off instead of even double teching these guys. Fucking softest foul call.
Fox looked like a bitch trying to stir shit. Shouldve been a tech
He complains all the fucking time what are you talking about
I think he’s talking about when Fox got up in his face, is that not fucking plainly clear? Lmao
“JB is too composed to complain” as if he doesn’t complain constantly lmao is that not fucking plainly clear?
I’m just keep letting you dig yourself deeper into that hole of illiteracy ✌🏻
“I’m just keep letting” but I’m illiterate, lmao ok big guy
What does his typo have to do with your illiteracy?
You watch the playoffs or ur just in ur mommas basement typing ?
I watched him literally trip over himself complaining to the ref in game 1, but good one my guy
The one that gets me is on offensive. The Wemby 2 hand screen and role seems like that should be an automatic illegal screen. I’m not sure when that got added to the NBA but it needs to go.
I don’t have a dog in the fight, but Wemby sure gets away with an awful lot of hand checking and using his hands when setting screens.
Was gonna mention the same thing. Announcers glazing the Spurs pick & roll execution while I’m like… Wemby shoves a dude to the floor during the screen action every time, of course it’s effective. There’s nobody there anymore
The NBA just decided to cut down on calling things if it helped the offense. Euro-step, carrying , moving screens, etc. I have not seen any of those rules being enforced consistently (or at all) in like a decade+. Especially in the playoffs.
It got called game 1!
At this price point, he CAN hit
I don’t want him to have hair
I think I want you to have curly hair
Felt like every drive to the basket by the Knicks ended in a ‘block’, and every drive by the Spurs ended in a bucket or a foul
So incredibly infuriating
Same as against OKC.
Yup, but no one’s ready for that convo, they were hacking SGA the whole series.
The funniest part is that we all knew this would happen. I saw so many comments from OKC fans saying “people are going to realize how much shit the Spurs get away with as soon as they aren’t playing us.”
Castle even flopped himself into an injury tonight.
Sorry fans were too blinded by the OKC hate to acknowledge this
The season didn’t end how I wanted, but taking solace in being vindicated is an acceptable runner up.
That shit was crazy, man almost broke his ankle flopping. That’s true dedication to your craft.
flopping
r/NBA said that when the Spurs do it, it’s called “drawing fouls.” That’s what separates Kobe and Castle from dirty floppers like SGA… word choice.
But don’t you know the Spurs saved basketball? Everything they do is righteous and good and beautiful
That’s one of the dumbest takes I think I have ever seen in this sub, yeah dude, they rigged the series against OKC, what a moronic take. If they wanted to rig it, they simply could have not called some of the softest fouls ever called and gave Shai techs for flopping. If the series was reffed fairly, it ends in 5 or 6 to Spurs and you also would be out to Denver in the 2nd round last year if they called it properly
“Thinking games were rigged is stupid” he says moments before typing a fanfic about the NBA not letting the Thunder lose quick enough, even insinuating their championship is the result of their series with the Nuggets not being called right.
I mean, that’s some real galactic brained figuring out you did, but it’s a fantastic overview of how we got here.
If the games the Thunder won were officiated in a way that didn’t let them win, they would’ve lost, and since they won those games, it’s proof that the games weren’t properly called. The games that they lost don’t have to be theoretically reassessed though since those were called fairly and the proof that they were called fairly is that the Thunder lost.
Now that they’ve lost and the Spurs play style can’t be hand waved away as justice, the consensus is catching up with what Thunder fans are saying and what Timberwolves fans said before that. Worst you can say is the Thunder deserved to lose at the hands of their play style, but making up scenarios to discredit them and avoid acknowledging the Spurs are the same thing is caveman level mental gymnastics.
You are a moron dude, your essay means about as much as what my grandmother thinks. If you are gonna imply that OKC, the team that benefits from ref calls the most in the league, lost because games were rigged against them, you are literally mentally handicapped. There is not even a reasonable cope here. IF, the games were indeed rigged against OKC, then why would they bother giving all those soft bullshit calls and reward the flopping and playing physical for half the games. They would simply not call them, no one would complain. Genuinely, without question, this take is the dumbest take I have seen here in the past year. Delusion
You’d think it was Hailey in a spurs jersey with the way castle was feeling up SGA
Okc-Spurs series looked like this too, I had to look up if hand checking, pushing and hooking was back on the menu
This has been the entire Spurs run. It was insane the theme of the WCF was OKC flopping - the Spurs have been allowed to mug people all playoffs. Castle should have 10-12 fouls a game. Wemby fouls on so many contests and rebounds but due to his stature as a DPOY (and he is indeed clearly the best defender in basketball) he gets away with anything.
Won’t be happening. The great ones beat both the other team and the refs
some fans have already known this ever since 2nd round
Whoever picks up Brunson full court fouls him 4-5x by the time they cross the half court line on nearly every play. Then they double and he gets shoved or fouled a few more times with no calls ever
they want all that ad revenue
Castle is playing football out there on Brunson
We all want a physical game but the officials 100% let the Spurs play out of control.
Wemby gets away with a lot of shoving and pushing.
The refs have cooked this game
Refs have cooked but we also would have only had ourselves to blame if we lost this
Yea brunson shot poorly
Kat got stopped hard.
Our bench saved us
KAT was on a roll before picking up his random 5th foul.
Tony brothers special
The 4th was pretty rough too. Castle was manhandling him the entire possession and he finally bumped him back and got called for an offensive foul.
Two random fouls on KAT killed our momentum
Bridges couldn’t miss
The Real Mr Consistent
He’s the unsung hero of these playoffs. Even when his teammates are giving other players props on post game interviews his name never comes up. It’s wild.
That’s just expected of him every night, that’s how good he is. He won so many games for us in the playoffs by just impacting the game in a bunch of ways. And he literally players every single game. But yeah it’s crazy he’s not getting more attention.
Mr Bucket Consistency
Cant blame KAT when its the refs that stopped him
Even if our bench guys aren’t scoring that much they always bring the defensive effort aswell
Finals MVP Kat got “stopped hard”?
🤔
Adam silver legacy game
and still failed
Adam Silver despite the loss:
Refs wouldn’t dare let the game go back home up 2-0. Need that revenue from G5 6 and 7
That 30 second stretch of 2 fouls on KAT was egregious
Absolutely changed the game
Thank God brown still kept his challenge for the even worse no call on that 3 point obvious foul in the 4th smh. That was a game.changing no call without that challenge the spurs would of for sure got the W
Yea very smart not to challenge those. There’s so much contact you can call a foul on anyone on those plays (only the Knicks get called tho) and they would’ve upheld them
Aged like milk (I’m crying inside)
They tried damn hard
Yes they did
Won’t be happening
I mean that’s how it works when you’re the underdogs. You have to beat both the other team and the refs.
Definitely not. Fouls three and four on Kat were honestly silly to be called
brunson is being fouled every single time by harper and theyre not calling antything its ridiculous
Welcome to how we felt lol
Nah, not you. Any other fanbase in the league, but not you.
It’s exactly true. You can be mad all you want, the Spurs were mauling the Thunder. Castle and Harper got away with doing whatever they wanted.
Amen
Spurs def got away with more contact vs the Thunder.
Y’all’s team is by far the worst offenders of this shit nobody feels sympathy for you lmao
You felt that way because of stupidity and cognitive dissonance, not because of reality.
Refs have been instructed to make this a series. Knicks steal 2 and then have home court? Less viewers, less revenue.
Sucks to suck Silver, ball dont lie
Have we ever seen a finals where the refs do the opposite and call it one way to make it a shorter series?
I feel like there could be a study on this to see if there is a pattern. After decades of watching this game we all have that gut feeling but I really want to know if there is a pattern and if there is, the statistical likelihood of that pattern.
Just wait for game 3 when KAT gets 5 fouls at the half and OG gets two technicals for breathing and we still lose
the garden is gonna be electric tho
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It’s been so bad from the refs. Those two foul calls on Kat were atrocious.
The Knicks are up 10+ with fair officiating.
Knicks playing 5v8 all game
As a Celtics fan who is legally obligated to root against all New York sports team, that was a crazy spurs whistle tonight
Worst officiated game I’ve seen in a very long time. Pathetic. Knicks haven’t made shit in the 4th but should still be up by 6-8 points right now.
ref ball
They’ve been letting both teams get away with the lot, but made up a couple on KAT to get rid of him
We don’t need to play the moral high ground game here, they’re letting the Spurs get away with a lot while the Knicks are being reffed differently
The Knicks had three more fouls than the spurs
Really 6 though. The spurs intentionally fouled Mitch 3 times
I guess you need to count castles foul too
Castle woulda fouled out in the first half lol
Castle fouled Brunson every time he brought the ball up the court 4 or 5x a play
How?
The Tony Brothers strike again
Icon duo
Tony Brothers and his whistle. Whether he blows it or not
Didn’t get sent to the line before then
Spurs with another series the FT differential is stacked in their favor? Nah no shot..
And it’s even worse because they tried hack a Mitch.
Nice try Tony
Nah it hasn’t felt even at all, especially in the second and third quarters. They’re letting a ton of contact go on one end and then calling ticky tack stuff on the other, which just kills the flow. Either call it tight both ways or let them play both ways, this halfway nonsense is what pisses everyone off.
Spurs are everything that they claimed OKC was lol. The reffing has been completely one sided tonight
So many nonsense no calls, horrible officiating
This would have been the usual 30 point Knicks blow out if it wasn’t for the dirty ass refs, absolutely disgusted
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Rent free in
It’s ok, let them cheat as much as they want. We still gonna whip that ass
Not. Even. Close
Refs were on an absolute mission this game. They fell just short.
Doesn’t mean much out of context, but this is an insanely physical game where a foul could be called any possession. Makes it a little easier to spot when one team isn’t getting a good call
Refs tried
It was some amazing work by Tony Brothers tonight.
I fucking hate this guy, why do the players think he’s the best ref? It’s like he has an idea of how the game should go and imposes his will
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the home team down 0-1 in a playoff series gets every freaking call and then some. It’s the most predictable reffing in all of sports.
Kudos to the Knicks for winning anyway.
And we still won.
AND WON
Not even TB can stop the knicks
It’s ridiculous how obvious the refs were doing everything they could to get wemby a win and he still couldn’t do it
Ethical hoopers
Refs gave it their best shot. Ball don’t lie tho
Spur have the paper champion whistle
The Brothers family bets on the outcomes of NBA basketball games
I saw a stat the Spurs allowed 31 free throws in losses in the WCF. Just 19 in wins.
They went a whole half without giving up free throws tonight. Gee I wonder why they don’t just choose to foul less every game /s
Reffing has been shockingly one-sided. I thought that for a couple of the spurs Vs wolves and OKC games as well. Not all of them, but like 2 or 3 of the 7 were the most one-sided games I have seen in my life and the free throws differential shows that.
RIGGED FOR A LONG SERIES REFS DECIDE BASED ON WHAT THEY CALL OR DONT, AND ON WHO.
THEY GOT KAT AND MITCHELL ON FOUL TROUBLE
And a Spurs fan tried to say that the game was called the same for both sides with both the Knicks and Spurs getting away with playing football out there.
Fucking insane reffing
Nyk has to challenge to get those free throws too. They try to extend the series. Adam silver probably gave up and just let the Knicks sweep them now.
Everyone is talking about how Brunson is struggling, he could have had at least 10 more free throws if this game was fairly officiated.
And they just won the game haha
Ridiculous that they had to waste a challenge such an obvious foul
That was some 02 WCF levels of chicanery from those refs.
Off a challenge at that. The fix was in.
Ball dont lie
It’s not a conspiracy against the Knicks, its just a regular conspiracy to extend the series.
Gotta win by 15 just to win by 1.
The FT discrepancy is even wider than you think because the Spurs employed hack a Mitch.
It seemed like, especially on Brunson with the ball in his hands, the Spurs got away with a lot of contact. I also think the no-calls on heavy contact encourages players to start selling calls with exaggerated movement. Even Richard Jefferson was saying it was too physical. That says something.
I’ll chalk it up to home court.
wemby boblets iq when no offensive only jumpshot 😅
ball dont lie
The refs should be dumped in the trash on the way out. How the nba allows this catering mess to go on is disgusting. Almost like they don’t want the KNICKS to win ever unless higher ups allow it. Smh
Final number was knicks 21 free throws compared to Spurs 27.
But in reality it’s so much worse
6 of those were hack a Mitch - so 21
2 late by brunson after the wemby turnover then foul - 19
OG fouled on the 3 needed to be challenged. Luckily the ball went out of bounds so they could challenge. - 16
So it was 16 to 27 despite the spurs playing ridiculously physical. I don’t even mind the physical defense but there have to be some calls to balance things out especially when wemby gets a soft whistle.
Bad math. 6 of those were hack a Mitch - so 15. So it was 10 to 27 despite the Spurs playing ridiculously physical.
Yes my bad I started with 27 which was the spurs number. I was half asleep when I typed that lol
I’m enjoying this game
Nah, Spurs benefited more this game.
Fuck haha
I think they need to rotate scott foster again next game and tony brothers for game 4
Hey at least they called the contact on the hack-a-mitch plays.
Arrest for cheating like a mother smh 🤦🏽♂️
The NBA is the WWE of basketball at this point.
Spurs looted OKC’s whistle and used it tonight.
Yeah it IS like WWE, has nothing to do with which team is favored by the refs, it just needs to be a long series. Spurs, Thunder whatever
Spurs at home get the friendliest whistle in the NBA
Spurs are what you think the Thunder are
The league should not partner with betting sites if their officiating is not going to call a fair game.
It’s even. I’ve always been told that if your team isn’t getting free throws it’s because the other team just isn’t fouling them. And if the other team is shooting too many free throws, then you should try not fouling them.
At this point how does the league ref the remaining games? So many outlets talking how unfair and one sided it was. I mean they would have to call it as clean as possible now right?
San Antonio “Oklahoma City Thunder” Spurs
Yall were trynna blame okc
Ah yes the contact aberrant Knicks team, this makes sense they just hate going to the paint and battle for offensive rebounds.
Truly disgusting, corrupt refeereing.
How many have the Spurs shot this half? Watching the game, I think game 1 was badly officiated (in favor of Spurs), I’m not sure this one has been.
I liked it. Both teams were allowed to play and only pretty obvious fouls were called. I’m good with that.
Lolknicks
Just admit you’re not watching
I dont think that’s true.
It’s been incredibly physical, but besides from a stupid tech it’s been pretty even. The spurs only took six more free throws in the most physical game I’ve seen in a while.
Great game and y’all just wanna complain about the refs. Fuck off
Tbf I posted this before the game ended. LGK🫡
You blaming the refs and not acknowledging the players playing passive AF in the 2nd half is hilarious. Go Knicks